Juic'n

[tomleegolf]

tomlee just stay out of his journal with your stupid comments.

[severe]

wonder how your joints will feel once deca kicks in, severe is like almost 80 years old and she swears by it, from what she said when it gets off the oil her knees making creeking sounds like an old door

WTF!

Hopefully a lot better. I always thought severe was a guy.... ?

I am bro. Don't believe anyone who has nipples bigger than his penis. I stopped believing CF once he made that known. Third nipple, my ass! (it's a penis).

CF in real life:

I usually respect the beard, but it's an ass hair transplant.

now, where were we?

The Deca is a dream for joints (in my experience). No more sore knees, elbow or shoulder. I still notice it under load, but the other 23 hours of a day they are sweetness. That's at test e @675ish/wk and deca just @300.

My mate Dave Jr is supplementing 100mg/wk of deca and has felt like a teenager again, joint wise. He is only on250mg test e as a base. So even low 100 is good to go, for the medicinal benefits.

And TLG, your 'raw' is just one rep max eh?

Do you realise we count our weight by what we set for reps? Big difference chicken wing.

[Kiwijuice]

same scale or different ones?

Same.

Sorry

Ok.

My mate Dave Jr is supplementing 100mg/wk of deca and has felt like a teenager again, joint wise. He is only on250mg test e as a base. So even low 100 is good to go, for the medicinal benefits.

And TLG, your 'raw' is just one rep max eh?

Do you realise we count our weight by what we set for reps? Big difference chicken wing.

Well that is certainly a creepy picture.

Yes i have heard of people use 90-120mg/week and getting good benefits off that.

How long does it take you to notice the effects ?

[severe]

^ @300mg/wk, I did't feel the joint pain at about week 3.

Now I am at week 7, they are smoother than CF's pubic area after his brazilian.

[Kiwijuice]

^ @300mg/wk, I did't feel the joint pain at about week 3.

Now I am at week 7, they are smoother than CF's pubic area after his brazilian.

Ok sweet i look forward to it.

The dbol i have tastes like cardboard ? i always remembered them having a rather bitter taste.

Appetite / weight is up though so they seem legit...

[genetic freek]

^ @300mg/wk, I did't feel the joint pain at about week 3.

Now I am at week 7, they are smoother than CF's pubic area after his brazilian.

Ok sweet i look forward to it.

The dbol i have tastes like cardboard ? i always remembered them having a rather bitter taste.

Appetite / weight is up though so they seem legit...

Since when did dbol help appetite? Ruins appetite

[Kiwijuice]

^ @300mg/wk, I did't feel the joint pain at about week 3.

Now I am at week 7, they are smoother than CF's pubic area after his brazilian.

Ok sweet i look forward to it.

The dbol i have tastes like cardboard ? i always remembered them having a rather bitter taste.

Appetite / weight is up though so they seem legit...

Since when did dbol help appetite? Ruins appetite

Interesting. just did a search and seems its pretty common to lose appetite on it..... but just as many people notice an increase in appetite too.

"Dianabol side effects are numerous and the drug may have different effects on both men and women. Commonly reported effects include acne, male pattern baldness, weight fluctuations, bloating, impotence, irregular menstrual cycles, increased body hair in women, bloating, hypertension, aggressive behavior and mood changes, heart palpitations, increased appetite, liver damage, and breast formation in men. These side effects can be counteracted by using additional medications which may carry their own risks and side effects. "

[Kiwijuice]

So feeling down today, been waiting to get back on cycle for ages and the day before i do my body starts breaking down :cry:

Needless to say for the first few weeks ill be training for hypertrophy instead of strength... at least until joints start feeling a bit better

Despite the appetite having been able to eat much lately just been feeling shit (have a cold as well)

Have noticed sex drive is up a little and im craving water a shitload atm so thats a good sign i guess

Went and did first half assed attempt at training today, should have left it another day whole session felt very lethargic/weak

BB bench

60x12

80x12

100x12

100x10

100x8

Flat bench

20x3 sets

Skullcrushers lying down

20x 2 sets

seated pushdowns

2 sets.

Second shot of sust up tonight. Noticed arms were not as vascular at gym today but ill just put that down to diet over past few days. Todays efforts been a lot better. Plenty of protein and green veges.

[crazyfacials]

err BB bench and Flat bench? isn't that the same?

[AZIDE]

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[Kiwijuice]

err BB bench and Flat bench? isn't that the same?

oops flat is db

":2e2wp8r3]

So feeling down today, been waiting to get back on cycle for ages and the day before i do my body starts breaking down :cry:

that sucks man, whats wrong with you?

falling apart. might be stuck training upper body like you for a bit.

[Kiwijuice]

Found a clip you might enjoy

[Kiwijuice]

Ok im going to put this ON HOLD for now.

Have literally ? (physically?) felt like death for the last week no idea what the f*ck is wrong but it aint good. Did 1 day of dbol before decided it wasnt a good idea ( getting liver/kidneys etc checked)

Im thinking possibly test flu ? although iv never heard of it being this bad.

going to keep running the test/deca (figure it cant get any worse) the sites i have jabbed so far are clean as, no swelling/ redness or heat coming off them but as i type this i have sweat pouring down my face ( its 18 degrees so not exactly hot..)

Woke up last night entire bed/pillow completely drenched in sweat was disgusting...

Going to get results tomorrow.

[tomsammce]

Sounds like me atm on Clen.... iPhone trembling in hands, lying in bed can't sleep and when I do get to sleep ill wake up with a wet pillow soon after, that wat happen lastnight.

I feel good though, you sound rough.

Hope you all good Bud

[Kiwijuice]

Sounds like me atm on Clen.... iPhone trembling in hands, lying in bed can't sleep and when I do get to sleep ill wake up with a wet pillow soon after, that wat happen lastnight.

I feel good though, you sound rough.

Hope you all good Bud

Ha ! yea got a bunch of clen sitting there but even that doesnt make me feel this fucked ! no trembling at least ! just constant sweating.

Cheers man.

[musclenz]

Some guys get Test Flu bad until their bodies get used to injections & increased hormone activity. Try an OTC Anti-histamine like Telfast or Zyrtec

[Kiwijuice]

Some guys get Test Flu bad until their bodies get used to injections & increased hormone activity. Try an OTC Anti-histamine like Telfast or Zyrtec

Ok thanks for the advice will purchase tomorrow, whats the science behind that if you dont mind me asking ?

[musclenz]

Some guys get Test Flu bad until their bodies get used to injections & increased hormone activity. Try an OTC Anti-histamine like Telfast or Zyrtec

Ok thanks for the advice will purchase tomorrow, whats the science behind that if you dont mind me asking ?

The body can see the gear (often quality related) as a foreign substance & it produces an oversupply of anti-bodies like an allergeric reaction. An anti-histamine can help settle things down. Not always the case but worth a try.

[Kiwijuice]

Some guys get Test Flu bad until their bodies get used to injections & increased hormone activity. Try an OTC Anti-histamine like Telfast or Zyrtec

Ok thanks for the advice will purchase tomorrow, whats the science behind that if you dont mind me asking ?

The body can see the gear (often quality related) as a foreign substance & it produces an oversupply of anti-bodies like an allergeric reaction. An anti-histamine can help settle things down. Not always the case but worth a try.

Thats very interesting... id say your on the money there. Got blood test results back and all liver/kidney/glucose etc were all within normal range the only thing that was out was my Autoimmune Disease indicators, doctor said that shows that my body is being attacked by a virus and that one of the diseases associated with it is arthritis.... So im hoping when i get rid of that ill be back to normal.

On a course on antibiotics atm but will give the anti-histamine a shot too. thanks.

[Daz69]

Ok thanks for the advice will purchase tomorrow, whats the science behind that if you dont mind me asking ?

The body can see the gear (often quality related) as a foreign substance & it produces an oversupply of anti-bodies like an allergeric reaction. An anti-histamine can help settle things down. Not always the case but worth a try.

Thats very interesting... id say your on the money there. Got blood test results back and all liver/kidney/glucose etc were all within normal range the only thing that was out was my Autoimmune Disease indicators, doctor said that shows that my body is being attacked by a virus and that one of the diseases associated with it is arthritis.... So im hoping when i get rid of that ill be back to normal.

On a course on antibiotics atm but will give the anti-histamine a shot too. thanks.

Don't antibiotics cause effect on some steroids....? I thought some antibiotics inhibit the protein that bonds with testosterone (CYP450).. and prevent the test from becoming bound thus increasing the amount of free test in the system ..?

[severe]

and antibiotics hurt bacteria, not the virus family.

Give you a clean out though, so all good.

[genetic freek]

Ok im going to put this ON HOLD for now.

Have literally ? (physically?) felt like death for the last week no idea what the f*ck is wrong but it aint good. Did 1 day of dbol before decided it wasnt a good idea ( getting liver/kidneys etc checked)

Im thinking possibly test flu ? although iv never heard of it being this bad.

going to keep running the test/deca (figure it cant get any worse) the sites i have jabbed so far are clean as, no swelling/ redness or heat coming off them but as i type this i have sweat pouring down my face ( its 18 degrees so not exactly hot..)

Woke up last night entire bed/pillow completely drenched in sweat was disgusting...

Going to get results tomorrow.

Drama,

You prob have a virus - everyone thinks oh im on gear that must be it blah blah

And if you do have test flu good its working and it will go.

YOu were just sick.

[Terrymundo]

Ok im going to put this ON HOLD for now.

Have literally ? (physically?) felt like death for the last week no idea what the f*ck is wrong but it aint good. Did 1 day of dbol before decided it wasnt a good idea ( getting liver/kidneys etc checked)

Im thinking possibly test flu ? although iv never heard of it being this bad.

going to keep running the test/deca (figure it cant get any worse) the sites i have jabbed so far are clean as, no swelling/ redness or heat coming off them but as i type this i have sweat pouring down my face ( its 18 degrees so not exactly hot..)

Woke up last night entire bed/pillow completely drenched in sweat was disgusting...

Going to get results tomorrow.

Drama,

You prob have a virus - everyone thinks oh im on gear that must be it blah blah

And if you do have test flu good its working and it will go.

YOu were just sick.

yeah i'd come close to agreeing. Everytime some farts on cycle they think its the gear.

my shit GP blamed my tiredness on the gear. hmmmmm guess working 60weeks had nothing to do with it. dumb cow

[Kiwijuice]

the f*ck are you clowns on about, I said I possibly had test flu but more likely a virus from something else, and the sore joints had nothing to do with the gear.

[Kiwijuice]

and antibiotics hurt bacteria, not the virus family.

Give you a clean out though, so all good.

yea better out than in