How soon can I run PCT and any other Tips?

[tongandingo]

I have been running the following

1ml EOD 100mg Test prop with 1.5ml on one of the days to make 450mg per week approx.

1.5ML per week of equipoise so 300mg

Planning on running test prop for 12 weeks and eq for 11.

How soon can I start pct as prop is a short ester using it alone can be 4-7 days but boldenone being very long do I have to wait? IMO eq is only mild-moderate HPTA shutdown so would it be sweet to just run 1 week after last prop shot?

Any other thoughts and suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

[justin2013]

what are you planning to run for pct?

[dannyjay]

lol i wouldn't even bother pct

[Daz69]

lol i wouldn't even bother pct

Bad advice, you should always run PCT..... Clomid (50mg) + Nolva (20mg) every day 2 weeks after last injection, for 4-6 weeks....

The only time you wouldn't bother with PCT is to go straight onto cruise...

[Chemo]

lol i wouldn't even bother pct

Bad advice, you should always run PCT..... Clomid (50mg) + Nolva (20mg) every day 2 weeks after last injection, for 4-6 weeks....

The only time you wouldn't bother with PCT is to go straight onto cruise...

You rate clomid?

Worth it over Nolva?

[Daz69]

lol i wouldn't even bother pct

Bad advice, you should always run PCT..... Clomid (50mg) + Nolva (20mg) every day 2 weeks after last injection, for 4-6 weeks....

The only time you wouldn't bother with PCT is to go straight onto cruise...

You rate clomid?

Worth it over Nolva?

Its my understanding Clomid kickstarts LH, Nolva blocks Estrogen... So both would be relevant for PCT......

[Chemo]

Nolva stimulates LH too though ay? and is more powerful at it per mg?

Considering both are serms wondering how needed clomid is on top of nolva?

[Daz69]

Nolva stimulates LH too though ay? and is more powerful at it per mg?

Considering both are serms wondering how needed clomid is on top of nolva?

Nolva does stimulate LH Chemo, even though Clomid is weaker than Nolva at blocking, it is believed to be quicker at bringing HPTA back to balance. Both are commonly used during PCT. It binds to different receptors than Nolva. There is a lot of debate on this, but until there is solid proof, it may be prudent to include this in your PCT.

Interesting scary article on Nolva + Clomid:

http://www.primordialperformance.com/bl ... -side.html

[Chemo]

Good read, a wise word about the involvement of AIs too.

A lot learnt from that, will be sending this to a few friends as well.

Cheers bro

I had no idea SERMs spawned from the DES drug, I have family members that are supposedly suffering from the DES medication!

Dangerous stuff, given out so freely :C and now a whole generation suffers.

Repped

[tongandingo]

Thanks Daz and Chemo for your help and feedback appreciate this.

Good read on the clomid and definately has some strong points on getting levels up asap in PCT. Unfortunately Clomid is near impossible to get in NZ so I have the following in no particular order to help keep gains and run thru PCT.

Genox Nolva 20MG tabs

Verve Arimidex 1MG tabs

D-Aspartic Acid

Thrust magnum OTC brand test booster with almost identical ingredients to the old gaspari Novedex XT so if you had a ideal PCT in mind using these products would appreciate it.

Nolva stimulates LH too though ay? and is more powerful at it per mg?

Considering both are serms wondering how needed clomid is on top of nolva?

Nolva does stimulate LH Chemo, even though Clomid is weaker than Nolva at blocking, it is believed to be quicker at bringing HPTA back to balance. Both are commonly used during PCT. It binds to different receptors than Nolva. There is a lot of debate on this, but until there is solid proof, it may be prudent to include this in your PCT.

Interesting scary article on Nolva + Clomid:

http://www.primordialperformance.com/bl ... -side.html

[musclenz]

Good read, a wise word about the involvement of AIs too.

A lot learnt from that, will be sending this to a few friends as well.

Cheers bro

I had no idea SERMs spawned from the DES drug, I have family members that are supposedly suffering from the DES medication!

Dangerous stuff, given out so freely :C and now a whole generation suffers.

Repped

Interesting article done 1998 about DES & Tamoxifen. Warning do not read if on PCT with Nolvadex

http://www.all-natural.com/tamox.html

[Chemo]

Good read, a wise word about the involvement of AIs too.

A lot learnt from that, will be sending this to a few friends as well.

Cheers bro

I had no idea SERMs spawned from the DES drug, I have family members that are supposedly suffering from the DES medication!

Dangerous stuff, given out so freely :C and now a whole generation suffers.

Repped

Interesting article done 1998 about DES & Tamoxifen. Warning do not read if on PCT with Nolvadex

http://www.all-natural.com/tamox.html

It has been found that tamoxifen binds tightly and irreversibly to DNA, the genetic blueprint of a cell, causing a cancerous mutation to take place.

Interesting point about phyto estrogens, BRB buying 5 cartons of soy milk for PCT. I wonder if a diet rich in vege would offset some or most of the bad effects with nolva? Juicing whilst Juicing :B

Some serious, serious down sides to nolva. Another reason to cruise?

Thanks MNZ-more reppage

[Diab0lic]

Thanks Daz and Chemo for your help and feedback appreciate this.

Good read on the clomid and definately has some strong points on getting levels up asap in PCT. Unfortunately Clomid is near impossible to get in NZ so I have the following in no particular order to help keep gains and run thru PCT.

Genox Nolva 20MG tabs

Verve Arimidex 1MG tabs

D-Aspartic Acid

Thrust magnum OTC brand test booster with almost identical ingredients to the old gaspari Novedex XT so if you had a ideal PCT in mind using these products would appreciate it.

Nolva stimulates LH too though ay? and is more powerful at it per mg?

Considering both are serms wondering how needed clomid is on top of nolva?

Nolva does stimulate LH Chemo, even though Clomid is weaker than Nolva at blocking, it is believed to be quicker at bringing HPTA back to balance. Both are commonly used during PCT. It binds to different receptors than Nolva. There is a lot of debate on this, but until there is solid proof, it may be prudent to include this in your PCT.

Interesting scary article on Nolva + Clomid:

http://www.primordialperformance.com/bl ... -side.html

Does anyone else run AIs during pct or just SERMs?