Genuine HRT / Reandron, Advice?

[ralf.hudson]

Hi Guys,

Had blood tests a few weeks ago that showed low Testosterone levels (9.5), normal is apparently between 11-35. I'm 34 y/o. Dr prescribe 1000mg Reandron which I've noticed has provided energy and strength gains within 48 hours.

I'm looking for recommendations from people taking this or Sustanon 250, Primoteston, or similar for hormone replacement therapy (or otherwise).

What's the difference between Androgenic and Anabolic hormones? What have others found with the muscle/strength gains found on the different products?

Anyway, keen for any feedback/suggestions ya'll may have!

Cheers,

Ralf

[Android]

Reandron is the best for HRT in NZ (my opinion).

I have tried it and I know a few old guys on it.

One guy 70+yes old gets 1 4ml ampule delivered by his doctor to administer himself. He gets 2 blood tests done, one a week before the 3 mths is up and one a week after pinning...every single time.

His Test levels are 18nmols at the end of the 3mths, and 37 a week after pinning Reandron.

You could then top up from that with other compounds IMO. Reandron rocks!

[ralf.hudson]

Hi Android,

Ok, cool. I'm thinking that the dosage is quite low compared with what body-builders take? I've been pretty skinny all my life and had trouble growing a decent beard (not to mention putting on or maintaining muscle mass).

Are there any products that can be taken in supplementation with Reandron under a HRT programme?

I'm training as well, so interested to know what others experience has been with the gains they found with this or similar products?

Regards,

Ralf

[Android]

Hi Android,

Ok, cool. I'm thinking that the dosage is quite low compared with what body-builders take? I've been pretty skinny all my life and had trouble growing a decent beard (not to mention putting on or maintaining muscle mass).

Are there any products that can be taken in supplementation with Reandron under a HRT programme?

I'm training as well, so interested to know what others experience has been with the gains they found with this or similar products?

Regards,

Ralf

Errr...I meant you could supplement with Sus250 of Cypionate to achieve the higher levels for bodybuilding but since your topic was about "Genuine HRT" stick with what is prescribed IMO.

To give you some idea, this guys lowest level was my natty level at age 38, and the highest level was that of a teenage male. Both acceptable ranges to be in all year round.

[ralf.hudson]

Ok, cool. Yes I don't know if they will prescribe more, guess that depends on next blood test results. From what I've been reading people say the more Testosterone the better, however I'm concerned about any negative side effects of taking more than required to have my levels reach "normal".

They mentioned that people on HRT that work out will take Sus250 over Reanadron... either way I guess they are both testosterone that have androgenic and anablolic properties!

Obviously I'm not going to have stupid gains taking my levels to optimum, however do you have any idea on what to expect in terms of gains/benefits while training?

[Grover]

Ok, cool. Yes I don't know if they will prescribe more, guess that depends on next blood test results. From what I've been reading people say the more Testosterone the better, however I'm concerned about any negative side effects of taking more than required to have my levels reach "normal".

They mentioned that people on HRT that work out will take Sus250 over Reanadron... either way I guess they are both testosterone that have androgenic and anablolic properties!

Obviously I'm not going to have stupid gains taking my levels to optimum, however do you have any idea on what to expect in terms of gains/benefits while training?

This is all dependant on

* Diet

* Work outs

* Rest

* Your age/weight/ experience at training

[ralf.hudson]

Hi Grover,

Ok, fair enough. Appreciate all your guys input...

My diet is quite good, high protein, etc. Working out every day apart from Sunday for about 1 hour per day (mix of circuit training, weights and running), normal levels of rest, 34 y/o and have been training hard for the past 9 months (been to gyms on and off for many years).

[Grover]

Diet is 80% ( and the hardest) is the common perception so what you need to decide is what direction you want to go

-Bulk up

- Trim down

Using the forum resources work out your macros for diet to do either

Also plenty of work outs posted that you can follow

Take some body pics as a reference, weigh and measure yourself, note this all down

Follow diet, exercise, rest see what happens

You may well need to tweak diet or training dependant on what your next measurements show- do this every 4 weeks

Your level of supplementation will assist your body recover, but as a HRT level won't lead to massive size increases on its on.

[ralf.hudson]

Hi Grover,

Awesome advice... I'm looking to increase strength and endurance. Being about 70kgs some extra size may not hurt... will have a look through this forum and recommended diet plans.

Cheers,

Ralf

[Grover]

Your welcome Ralf

Plenty of info in here, just a matter of pulling it up.

Scroll thru old threads, try a few different things and if still stuck ask away.

Still might get flamed by a few but as long as it appears that you are trying to help yourself most will do the same.

Too often newbies want somebody to wave a magic wand and say do this and you will look like soundsgood in 12 weeks!

If only it was that easy.

[ralf.hudson]

Yea, sweet! Putting in the hard yards now and always good to keep improving even in small ways across the areas you guys have mentioned

Apparently they can prescribe Nandrolone (Deca) as well... I'm guessing that's still testosterone, but more anabolic?

I've already put on a few kilos in the past few weeks! (hopefully that's mostly muscle!)

[Daz69]

Yea, sweet! Putting in the hard yards now and always good to keep improving even in small ways across the areas you guys have mentioned

Apparently they can prescribe Nandrolone (Deca) as well... I'm guessing that's still testosterone, but more anabolic?

I've already put on a few kilos in the past few weeks! (hopefully that's mostly muscle!)

Nandrolone for HRT..?????? Its very suppressive of the bodys own natural testosterone production I think 100mg in studies has shown 100% shut-down....

OK for building muscle but only if you combine it with Testosterone, and suitably higher levels of Test to Deca ratio..... (500/400)

[mrgeeky]

Nandrolone for HRT..?????? Its very suppressive of the bodys own natural testosterone production I think 100mg in studies has shown 100% shut-down....

OK for building muscle but only if you combine it with Testosterone, and suitably higher levels of Test to Deca ratio..... (500/400)

holy crap, are you serious?

[mrgeeky]

In my 30s i got hold of decca a frieind was scoring off a veteranarian.

Knowing jack I went to my quack and asked him if I could get his nurse to inject it for me.

The doctor originally from Shrilanka was fine with this and seemed to know all about roids..

So I went on a 6 month cycle of nothing but Decca. The dose was reasonably high to... Cant remember exactly what it was now..

I was being injected twice a week, every week for 3 months with a small break for a few weeks with no PCT and back on for another 3 months, then stopped cold turkey when I ran out of Decca.

I got some mediocre gains but a lot better than I had been naturally, I also lost a lot of weight. So it worked out good..

But its just clicked, so all that time I had no testosterone in my system?

Is that what you are saying Daz69?

[severe]

But its just clicked, so all that time I had no testosterone in my system?

Is that what you are saying Daz69?

Yes, that is what he is saying.

Test is THE hormone. That is what gives us our male attributes. Even a stiff dick requires test in the blood.

[mrgeeky]

But its just clicked, so all that time I had no testosterone in my system?

Is that what you are saying Daz69?

Yes, that is what he is saying.

Test is THE hormone. That is what gives us our male attributes. Even a stiff dick requires test in the blood.

all seems weird..

wonder why I didnt notice a loss of sex drive.

wonder why I didnt feel like total crap when on the decca and when i came off?

Why didnt I grow me some titties?

Something doesnt make sense..

[Daz69]

But its just clicked, so all that time I had no testosterone in my system?

Is that what you are saying Daz69?

Yes, that is what he is saying.

Test is THE hormone. That is what gives us our male attributes. Even a stiff dick requires test in the blood.

all seems weird..

wonder why I didnt notice a loss of sex drive.

wonder why I didnt feel like total crap when on the decca and when i came off?

Why didnt I grow me some titties?

Something doesnt make sense..

Maybe it wasn't Deca......

[mrgeeky]

Yes, that is what he is saying.

Test is THE hormone. That is what gives us our male attributes. Even a stiff dick requires test in the blood.

all seems weird..

wonder why I didnt notice a loss of sex drive.

wonder why I didnt feel like total crap when on the decca and when i came off?

Why didnt I grow me some titties?

Something doesnt make sense..

Maybe it wasn't Deca......

possible but I doubt it..

What ever it was, was good enough to make some gains and strip me of some fat, besides if anyone was going to fake decca, why disguise it as vet decca..

would have been more common sense to make a fake copy of a good know brand used for humans..

Weird eh? Maybe thats what screwed up my own test and why I have been so lethargic for years.. Probably screwed my own hormone system over by running it so long with out an test..

[ralf.hudson]

Sorry if this is the wrong section... what do you guys recommend for keeping joints working smoothly?

[mrgeeky]

Sorry if this is the wrong section... what do you guys recommend for keeping joints working smoothly?

personally I just take omega 3's..

Fish oil..