New forum policy - brand names banned

[Pseudonym]

These threads are so retarded all they are is a bunch of people pushing the brand that there selling and badmouthing the competition, theres a few new ones that pop up every week and its the same shit over and over again why dont you mods stop this crap ??

I totally agree, Luigi. The problem the mods have is distinguishing between a legitimate user's opinion, and an undercover sales pitch. We can't run a full background check on everyone who posts in this forum!

We've been discussing this issue for a while, and one answer is to simply ban the use of underground brand names in the forum. That means that people won't be able to publicly review a brand any longer - but then, there's no way of knowing how authentic those reviews have been anyway. It would solve most of the brand-pushing/bashing instantly, and just as important, it's a rule that the mods can apply easily and consistently. I think its time to bring it in.

EDIT: Jump to the full explanation here.

[Diab0lic]

This is why we can't have nice things

[severe]

I disagree. You should ban the use of names to protect the general population of users, not because of ego wars over who has the best gear.

I couldn't care less what a stranger said about potion X. Let's face it, unless we have met in life, no matter how long we have chatted online, we are strangers. This is a virtual world of 10 foot tall bronzed gods, and we know it aint like that in life.

I won't be accepting offers from them. Does it really matter that someone may be bias? Hell, we are all bias based on our own experiences. I don't care if someone thinks Pepsi is the shit, or Allah is god. Good luck to them and their watered down baskwash. I move on.

Even if I give people shit for being what I see is a blantant plug for what they must be selling, I don't wish them to be arrested or found out just because I use pine pollen instead of tribulus. This is a forum of shit givers, so by default membership should include a thick skin.

Shady pricks get found out, and usually before even one sale of Lupi has been made. We tend to keep the deadwood out on our own.

Bottom line is that everyone here has ego issues, and that is fine, it goes with the territory. Just try not to let it ruin your day. Laugh it off.

If anything, branding discussion helps us determine what has potential, because we atleast know main names. Being offered "Hades" brand and not be sure if anyone else knows of it. It is all subjective, but has merit.

If it is a brand name ban, let it be for the protection of identities, not as a bandaid for those with high estrogen counts.

[thatwaslight]

This is why we can't have nice things

lmfao

[whiterhyno]

I disagree. You should ban the use of names to protect the general population of users, not because of ego wars over who has the best gear.

I couldn't care less what a stranger said about potion X. Let's face it, unless we have met in life, no matter how long we have chatted online, we are strangers. This is a virtual world of 10 foot tall bronzed gods, and we know it aint like that in life.

I won't be accepting offers from them. Does it really matter that someone may be bias? Hell, we are all bias based on our own experiences. I don't care if someone thinks Pepsi is the shit, or Allah is god. Good luck to them and their watered down baskwash. I move on.

Even if I give people shit for being what I see is a blantant plug for what they must be selling, I don't wish them to be arrested or found out just because I use pine pollen instead of tribulus. This is a forum of shit givers, so by default membership should include a thick skin.

Shady pricks get found out, and usually before even one sale of Lupi has been made. We tend to keep the deadwood out on our own.

Bottom line is that everyone here has ego issues, and that is fine, it goes with the territory. Just try not to let it ruin your day. Laugh it off.

If anything, branding discussion helps us determine what has potential, because we atleast know main names. Being offered "Hades" brand and not be sure if anyone else knows of it. It is all subjective, but has merit.

If it is a brand name ban, let it be for the protection of identities, not as a bandaid for those with high estrogen counts.

Totally agree with you Severe

Banning names will do more harm than good IMO

Like Severe said if someone thinks 1 brand is great, good on them but also it won't change others opinion if there using there own good gear

Where it is good is if there is some fake shit being sold to come here and air it out and get rid of these guys as we are all here for mostly the same goal yet it's so taboo to even talk about things and i believe info on brands can be positive and if the gear is good than there are no worries

[Riccardo]

I Don't think discussion of brand names should be banned. People have their own opinions and I think most people on here are smart enough to realize that sources are always gona push their own brand. Plus it's a numbers game, If the majority of people say its shit then it probably is. Brand names allows people to identify when fakes are circulating and ultimately its going to help people avoid scammers. NZBB is obviously not affiliated with any brand so it shouldn't give two hoots whether some dealer loses customers over a competitors smear campaign. Dealers gona deal, if you're dumb enough to buy into some of the things people say in here then it's your own fault and you deserve to piss away your money.

[Outkast]

I Don't think discussion of brand names should be banned. People have their own opinions and I think most people on here are smart enough to realize that sources are always gona push their own brand. Plus it's a numbers game, If the majority of people say its shit then it probably is. Brand names allows people to identify when fakes are circulating and ultimately its going to help people avoid scammers. NZBB is obviously not affiliated with any brand so it shouldn't give two hoots whether some dealer loses customers over a competitors smear campaign. Dealers gona deal, if you're dumb enough to buy into some of the things people say in here then it's your own fault and you deserve to piss away your money.

Agreed!

[bulking4ever]

I agree, don't think brand naming should be banned.

But I do think mods should have ZERO tolerance towards idiots who rarely contribute to this forum with good advices, instead they just post name calling and dissing brands.

IMO we should be able to discuss and share experiences about a certain brand and what sort of results people are getting on them.

It's quite obvious when someone's pushing a brand by their atittude.

[Outkast]

I think genuine experiences, reviews on different brands should be allowed here It gives people a fair idea what they can expect.

[DLS]

I agree, don't think brand naming should be banned.

But I do think mods should have ZERO tolerance towards idiots who rarely contribute to this forum with good advices, instead they just post name calling and dissing brands.

IMO we should be able to discuss and share experiences about a certain brand and what sort of results people are getting on them.

It's quite obvious when someone's pushing a brand by their atittude.

noone shud be ripping on brands enless there 100 % sure it was from a legit source so many fakes around

[severe]

I agree, don't think brand naming should be banned.

But I do think mods should have ZERO tolerance towards idiots who rarely contribute to this forum with good advices, instead they just post name calling and dissing brands.

IMO we should be able to discuss and share experiences about a certain brand and what sort of results people are getting on them.

It's quite obvious when someone's pushing a brand by their atittude.

noone shud be ripping on brands enless there 100 % sure it was from a legit source so many fakes around

In a perfect world.

If we are shitting on brands that are 100% true to the source, then they will give results. Hence, people rip on each other because of their experience or the need to put off potential clients of the other brand, to ensure they come to him. But as said above, we know when people are pushing their own agendas.

I stick by keeping the brand discussions. I also still stick to my earlier post about banning only to protect users, not because people complain.

In my experience, low gains is more a factor of shit diet and unachievable goal setting.

bulking4ever made the best point today: zero tolerance for phantom posters who only show up to push brands. We see them, but these are the wanks around here, on all brands.

FTW, pollen for life!

[I Declare War]

I reckon we shouldn't be discussing brands in a public forum such as this.

[hhhh1]

In my experience, low gains is more a factor of shit diet and unachievable goal setting.

maybe if you were sold good gear this would be true but seems like there's lots of fake/shit gear out there, and you can hardly blame diet/training for shit gains if you have been sold shit gear

[weighty]

I agree, don't think brand naming should be banned.

But I do think mods should have ZERO tolerance towards idiots who rarely contribute to this forum with good advices, instead they just post name calling and dissing brands.

IMO we should be able to discuss and share experiences about a certain brand and what sort of results people are getting on them.

It's quite obvious when someone's pushing a brand by their atittude.

i think before people have an opinion on a brand they should post up some pics.

most of you complaining are easily outlifted by natural people who train hard and eat well...

i love the forum its where everyone can have an opinion... but if everyone saw u irl your opinion wouldnt mean anything they would just laugh. that goes for most of you who are whinging

Tom.

[hhhh1]

noone shud be ripping on brands enless there 100 % sure it was from a legit source so many fakes around

i disagree. if a legitimate brand has heaps of fake copies being made of it I think it is good for people to have at least some insight into how likely is is they will be getting given fake shit. not like people are allowed to name sources on here so pretty much just leaves the brands...

[Diab0lic]

In after suspended brah

[bulking4ever]

i think before people have an opinion on a brand they should post up some pics.

most of you complaining are easily outlifted by natural people who train hard and eat well...

i love the forum its where everyone can have an opinion... but if everyone saw u irl your opinion wouldnt mean anything they would just laugh. that goes for most of you who are whinging

Tom.

Oh look who's back...

Listen kid, I don't care if I'm smaller than any natural guys out there, I have been in this game for several years, and I know when I'm using legit or fake stuff. I don't need to post a pic of myself to prove a point.

If I'm solt fake gear, it means I've been ripped off, it means someone stole my hard earned money and that is unexcuseble.

Despite the fact that I've been ripped off a few times in the past, I still never acted like you, I never came on here talking shit about a certain brand.

My experience is as follows be shared with folks who are interested:

APOLLO: I'm sure there's good apollo ou there and some guys on here can prove that by their results, but I was sold apollo bunk gear to.

ULTAGENIX: It worked and I would use again, but the source was a terrible comunicator and kept my money without sending me what I ordered.

TITAN: Loved everything about it, quality, variety, and specially the very precise communication.

Here it is, wethere you like my opinion or not I dont care, thats what Im here for, to share experiences and still keeping respect.

Peace

[Luigi]

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[severe]

I use Apollo, but won't be getting into a dick measuring contest. Same with the Ford vs Holden circular arguments. And it is impossible to sift some of teh BS as we all use our own experiences to back it up, just like people who quote teh bible to prove the bible.

Sure, there may be bunk gear. I am sure there is. But I haven't been served it.

Can't we all just hold hands and sing camp fire songs?

[Android]

I would like to see a hidden forum set up much like the Mods have them (we can't see them, but they exist for Mods only).

Then get the regulars who post into it. After that you gotta know someone IRL to recommend you to come in. THen and only then can we have real-life conversations about brands. I don't believe half of whats written on here because I don't know the person, or don't know someone who does know them.

If someone I know or a friend knows posts that they got ripped by a brand I would pay attention to that and not view it as a nasty remark.

And in light of the recent busts (I am sure the forum didn't instigate it), but it's still research that the filthy pigs are happy exists.

They only have to make 5 random posts and they're in! It's the reason I started writing what I take in my journal, because anyone can read it anyway why bother pretending it's a safe place to talk.

[HarryB]

I would like to see a hidden forum set up much like the Mods have them (we can't see them, but they exist for Mods only).

Then get the regulars who post into it. After that you gotta know someone IRL to recommend you to come in. THen and only then can we have real-life conversations about brands. I don't believe half of whats written on here because I don't know the person, or don't know someone who does know them.

If someone I know or a friend knows posts that they got ripped by a brand I would pay attention to that and not view it as a nasty remark.

And in light of the recent busts (I am sure the forum didn't instigate it), but it's still research that the filthy pigs are happy exists.

They only have to make 5 random posts and they're in! It's the reason I started writing what I take in my journal, because anyone can read it anyway why bother pretending it's a safe place to talk.

Good points. Not sure about the seperate thread that's private entry only nor how that would work.

Like you I post what I do on because I know that as a user I am hardly worth the attention. But it is pretty easy to identify guys who have agendas, tyhat's for them and their clients though.

Oh and I have to scratch my head when guys get ripped off and just cop it. Since when was that ok?

[crazyfacials]

I would like to see a hidden forum set up much like the Mods have them (we can't see them, but they exist for Mods only).

Then get the regulars who post into it. After that you gotta know someone IRL to recommend you to come in. THen and only then can we have real-life conversations about brands. I don't believe half of whats written on here because I don't know the person, or don't know someone who does know them.

If someone I know or a friend knows posts that they got ripped by a brand I would pay attention to that and not view it as a nasty remark.

And in light of the recent busts (I am sure the forum didn't instigate it), but it's still research that the filthy pigs are happy exists.

They only have to make 5 random posts and they're in! It's the reason I started writing what I take in my journal, because anyone can read it anyway why bother pretending it's a safe place to talk.

So when are you taking me out to a candel lit dinner so we get to know each other better big boy?

[Android]

I would like to see a hidden forum set up much like the Mods have them (we can't see them, but they exist for Mods only).

Then get the regulars who post into it. After that you gotta know someone IRL to recommend you to come in. THen and only then can we have real-life conversations about brands. I don't believe half of whats written on here because I don't know the person, or don't know someone who does know them.

If someone I know or a friend knows posts that they got ripped by a brand I would pay attention to that and not view it as a nasty remark.

And in light of the recent busts (I am sure the forum didn't instigate it), but it's still research that the filthy pigs are happy exists.

They only have to make 5 random posts and they're in! It's the reason I started writing what I take in my journal, because anyone can read it anyway why bother pretending it's a safe place to talk.

So when are you taking me out to a candel lit dinner so we get to know each other better big boy?

Oh I thought the PMs you kept sending me about "a date" were all about the Date Palms you miss back at your sandcastle home bro...

my bad :doh:

[startinfromscratch]

^^^

[jakeheke]

All this talk has got me worried about fake gear, any legit way to tell between real and bunk gear?? other than the gains obviously.