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Daz69 Senior member

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Hey guys, want to know if anyone has dabbled with this one?

What have you noticed, pain, redness swelling anything else....?

Its not for the faint hearted :grin:

Is this is due to a high percentage of BA required to maintain suspension at full strength..?

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Hey guys, want to know if anyone has dabbled with this one?

What have you noticed, pain, redness swelling anything else....?

Its not for the faint hearted :grin:

Is this is due to a high percentage of BA required to maintain suspension at full strength..?

BA - using an antiseptic to hold suspension? think you mean BB mate :pfft:

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Its not for the faint hearted :grin:

Is this is due to a high percentage of BA required to maintain suspension at full strength..?

BA - using an antiseptic to hold suspension? think you mean BB mate :pfft:

Ba is a solvent and does help to keep gear in solution. Have used test400 and it was relatively pain free.

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Its not for the faint hearted :grin:

Is this is due to a high percentage of BA required to maintain suspension at full strength..?

BA - using an antiseptic to hold suspension? think you mean BB mate :pfft:

Just quoting what I've been told Mate.....

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OP,

How many doctors visits & anti-biotics did you end up having to take..... or is you lack of replies due to you being still in hospital with a gauze packed shoulder on IV antibiotics! :pfft: :grin: (Not very srs)

Care to name the brand that fucked you up? Or is that a given with its track history....kinda srs, but don't name names :?

The guys making this shit need to realise they're playing with peoples health. Potentially an intramuscular infection is life threatening if it turns to septicaemia ("blood poisoning" or systemic infection).

Unsure if the OP got an infection or just a bad reaction, but one product line in NZL is fast gaining a reputation for this. Buyer beware.

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Don't really wish to name brands but you can gather by the thread ;)

Know a person who said the arm goes red and so on for about a week. Was wondering you all you personally think about it all.

But thanks for the read!

Just to let people know that havn't used a test 400 before it is not normal for the arm to go red or any where else on the body.

If you get any excessive pain or discomfort or redness, chances are somethings up.

Cellulitis is another bacterial infection that can result from unsteril product so be very careful.

All the bad stuff really does happen, dont think it won't.

Try a red leg from the knee to the upper quad due to 'an aggravated patch of dermis from trapped oil under the layers'. The leg dosn't flex, extend and there is a loss of definition from fluid. Not nice.

Don't be afraid to ask questions about any redness or swelling, as oral antibiotics are a lot beter than waiting it out and getting intravenous antibiotics.

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OK this stuff is certainly not suitable for a newbie to AAS. It should, & normally is, only used by advanced & experienced users. Every brand of T400 will hurt like a Mofo. Think about it...you have got 400mg of compound contained in 1ml of carrier oil. It is about double the strength of most UG lab gear in NZ by ml. What happens is the injection site gets very painful a day or two after the shot because the oil dissapates from the muscle tissue leaving the chemical compound which tends to crystalize. This is what happens in some high dose ug & pharm grade AAS. This is what gives the pain. It is perfectly sterile & will not cause infection but of course the body tends to react to the crystals & the reaction is by way of inflamation, redness & lumps with some radiated pain. These are similar symptoms to infection but is more of an allergic reaction. There will only be infection where sterility has been compromised.

Ways to help alleviate the pain is by way of using Deca or Eq in particular to dilute the T400 in the same syringe or by adding sterile carrier oil. Injections should not exceed 1ml & half a ml is better. Now I know that some of you are asking why not just bang in 2 shots of TestE, well some guys still like to use T400 because typically its a mix of Propionate, Enanthate & Cypionate which seems to work quite well & for those dosing gear at higher levels it just reduces the amount of oil you need to inject to avoid scare tissue etc. Some advocate only doing glute injections over delt or quads but I'm not too fussed on having a sore arse for 4-5 days over a sore shoulder but guess a sore arse does not impact on your training as much unless you are into box squats.

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OK this stuff is certainly not suitable for a newbie to AAS. It should, & normally is, only used by advanced & experienced users. Every brand of T400 will hurt like a Mofo. Think about it...you have got 400mg of compound contained in 1ml of carrier oil. It is about double the strength of most UG lab gear in NZ by ml. What happens is the injection site gets very painful a day or two after the shot because the oil dissapates from the muscle tissue leaving the chemical compound which tends to crystalize. This is what happens in some high dose ug & pharm grade AAS. This is what gives the pain. It is perfectly sterile & will not cause infection but of course the body tends to react to the crystals & the reaction is by way of inflamation, redness & lumps with some radiated pain. These are similar symptoms to infection but is more of an allergic reaction. There will only be infection where sterility has been compromised.

Ways to help alleviate the pain is by way of using Deca or Eq in particular to dilute the T400 in the same syringe or by adding sterile carrier oil. Injections should not exceed 1ml & half a ml is better. Now I know that some of you are asking why not just bang in 2 shots of TestE, well some guys still like to use T400 because typically its a mix of Propionate, Enanthate & Cypionate which seems to work quite well & for those dosing gear at higher levels it just reduces the amount of oil you need to inject to avoid scare tissue etc. Some advocate only doing glute injections over delt or quads but I'm not too fussed on having a sore arse for 4-5 days over a sore shoulder but guess a sore arse does not impact on your training as much unless you are into box squats.

Great info!

That is pretty much bang on to what my mate had experenced/said too! Thanks heaps for the good reply!

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mildly off topic,but what you lads use to dilute painful gear. heard of peeps using grapeseed from the super but i'm wanting something sterile and easy to get a hold of. Had my eye supertest450 but i get signficant site from sust. but maybe im just big pooosay. any help?

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