18 years old 106 5 ft 9

[Kiwijuice]

WOW so much hate in this thread

Everyone pulling the gear card or claiming this and that need to just shut the f*ck up. This guy is a genetic freak and going to be huge in a few years. Yea hes a little ugly as TWL has pointed out but in real life hes a nice fulla and obviously knows what hes doing. Thought this was sposed to be a supportive community ? hmmm i wonder why more people dont post pics. :roll:

absolute dickheads

[southernsamurai]

WOW so much hate in this thread

Everyone pulling the gear card or claiming this and that need to just shut the f*ck up. This guy is a genetic freak and going to be huge in a few years. Yea hes a little ugly as TWL has pointed out but in real life hes a nice fulla and obviously knows what hes doing. Thought this was sposed to be a supportive community ? hmmm i wonder why more people dont post pics. :roll:

absolute dickheads

Yes! Agreed. Going to be huge in a few years? Dude he is a tank already at 18 lol.

I think people just attack when someone possesses a greater ability than them so the only card they can play is it must be this n that etc

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

looking pretty swole there, you should show off your legs too some time, bet there must be some good mass on there too considering your weight

[bang_bang]

WOW so much hate in this thread

Everyone pulling the gear card or claiming this and that need to just shut the f*ck up. This guy is a genetic freak and going to be huge in a few years. Yea hes a little ugly as TWL has pointed out but in real life hes a nice fulla and obviously knows what hes doing. Thought this was sposed to be a supportive community ? hmmm i wonder why more people dont post pics. :roll:

absolute dickheads

This.

[Dontrunwithknives]

WOW so much hate in this thread

Everyone pulling the gear card or claiming this and that need to just shut the f*ck up. This guy is a genetic freak and going to be huge in a few years. Yea hes a little ugly as TWL has pointed out but in real life hes a nice fulla and obviously knows what hes doing. Thought this was sposed to be a supportive community ? hmmm i wonder why more people dont post pics. :roll:

absolute dickheads

Yes! Agreed. Going to be huge in a few years? Dude he is a tank already at 18 lol.

I think people just attack when someone possesses a greater ability than them so the only card they can play is it must be this n that etc

It was more the fact that he stated that he was natty and people with good knowledge of bodybuilding thought due to his proportions/look that he is not natural. They were just stating their opinion but still giving him credit for his hard work. You don't have to take it to heart and if he really is natty then he should be even happier if people think he looks like he is on the juice.

I was thinking exactly the same thing as Android. It's only my opinion but it does look (from the first picture) that his forearms are quite small compared to upper arms (may not be so from another angle) and chest looks small. I also noticed the bacne straight away which he claims is teen acne but I would have thought there would be acne in other places as well like his face.

The only reason I noticed all these things is because he said he was natty. On a positive note he does look huge and has clearly done a lot of hard work. Biceps and delts look massive and back looks very wide so good work. Going to look really impressive when everything is in proportion (lets see legs). (And again, I'm not hatting on him, just stating my opinion)

[I Declare War]

WOW so much hate in this thread

Everyone pulling the gear card or claiming this and that need to just shut the f*ck up. This guy is a genetic freak and going to be huge in a few years. Yea hes a little ugly as TWL has pointed out but in real life hes a nice fulla and obviously knows what hes doing. Thought this was sposed to be a supportive community ? hmmm i wonder why more people dont post pics. :roll:

absolute dickheads

Yes! Agreed. Going to be huge in a few years? Dude he is a tank already at 18 lol.

I think people just attack when someone possesses a greater ability than them so the only card they can play is it must be this n that etc

It was more the fact that he stated that he was natty and people with good knowledge of bodybuilding thought due to his proportions/look that he is not natural. They were just stating their opinion but still giving him credit for his hard work. You don't have to take it to heart and if he really is natty then he should be even happier if people think he looks like he is on the juice.

I was thinking exactly the same thing as Android. It's only my opinion but it does look (from the first picture) that his forearms are quite small compared to upper arms (may not be so from another angle) and chest looks small. I also noticed the bacne straight away which he claims is teen acne but I would have thought there would be acne in other places as well like his face.

The only reason I noticed all these things is because he said he was natty. On a positive note he does look huge and has clearly done a lot of hard work. Biceps and delts look massive and back looks very wide so good work. Going to look really impressive when everything is in proportion (lets see legs). (And again, I'm not hatting on him, just stating my opinion)

Thank you! Someone with some sense who can actually analyse and articulate the situation rather than an idiot who just labels everything as "hate"!

[Dontrunwithknives]

Thank you! Someone with some sense who can actually analyse and articulate the situation rather than an idiot who just labels everything as "hate"!

I think they are just sticking up for him, no need to call them idiots. They probably feel that people are taking away from his achievements by pulling the gear card. They are allowed opinions as well. And remember, people can see for themselves if someone is an idiot so there's no need to say it

[Kiwijuice]

i wish i was as big as him

you mad hes bigger than you ?

jibberish

yea. i just find it ironic (moronic?) that guys who are half his size and 10 years older are giving him shit.

[Dontrunwithknives]

i wish i was as big as him

you mad hes bigger than you ?

jibberish

yea. i just find it ironic (moronic?) that guys who are half his size and 10 years older are giving him shit.

I wouldn't say they are giving him shit. People just get a bit fired up/jelly when massive people pull out the natty card. Especially when it looks like they are on gear (may not be so, just opinions).

I think everyone just needs to chill out. Some people think he looks like he's on gear. Some people think he is not. The reasons have been stated and I don't think it needs to really be talked about anymore. Especially since he has removed the word that set everyone off from the title. One thing we can agree on is that he looks massive. People have also given him constructive criticism which he can use to better his physique (he can also disregard it if he likes).

[Vader69]

looking pretty swole there, you should show off your legs too some time, bet there must be some good mass on there too considering your weight

meh there alright proportioned but calves are pretty crap tbh quads are decent hammies need more roundness

chest is lagging to as everyone is pointing out its not small just compared to delts def needs work

[Dontrunwithknives]

looking pretty swole there, you should show off your legs too some time, bet there must be some good mass on there too considering your weight

meh there alright proportioned but calves are pretty crap tbh quads are decent hammies need more roundness

chest is lagging to as everyone is pointing out its not small just compared to delts def needs work

Just hit them extra hard/try some different things and you will bring them up in no time. Don't take it in a bad way, there's always something that can be improved

[Kiwijuice]

above

its not that i dont think hes on gear. its just irrelevant.

A good gym and a mentor and he would go far. no offense slintani but snap fitness is shit.

[Vader69]

looking pretty swole there, you should show off your legs too some time, bet there must be some good mass on there too considering your weight

meh there alright proportioned but calves are pretty crap tbh quads are decent hammies need more roundness

chest is lagging to as everyone is pointing out its not small just compared to delts def needs work

Just hit them extra hard/try some different things and you will bring them up in no time. Don't take it in a bad way, there's always something that can be improved

for sure man Im in no rush.. hitting chest twice a week now hardly hitting delts pretty much just need to get thicker with out getting wider or ill look retarded

[Dontrunwithknives]

above

its not that i dont think hes on gear. its just irrelevant.

A good gym and a mentor and he would go far. no offense slintani but snap fitness is shit.

I wouldn't say it's irrelevant to everyone when he claims he is natty. Bodybuilding can get quite competitive and most people do compete with each other even if they don't admit it/realise. If someone comes along who is really big and says "I'm natural" but it kind of looks like they are on gear some people can get a bit annoyed. It's irrelevant to you though which is fine.

And I agree he could go far. Looks like he has above average genetics. Would be good to see him bring everything up to the right proportions then we could get a better idea.

Also Vader69 what does one of your chest workouts look like?

[Kiwijuice]

meh there alright proportioned but calves are pretty crap tbh quads are decent hammies need more roundness

chest is lagging to as everyone is pointing out its not small just compared to delts def needs work

Just hit them extra hard/try some different things and you will bring them up in no time. Don't take it in a bad way, there's always something that can be improved

for sure man Im in no rush.. hitting chest twice a week now hardly hitting delts pretty much just need to get thicker with out getting wider or ill look retarded

bit late for that mate.

but i know what you mean. you got a lot of width but not a lot of thickness. start deadlifting !

[Vader69]

Just hit them extra hard/try some different things and you will bring them up in no time. Don't take it in a bad way, there's always something that can be improved

for sure man Im in no rush.. hitting chest twice a week now hardly hitting delts pretty much just need to get thicker with out getting wider or ill look retarded

bit late for that mate.

but i know what you mean. you got a lot of width but not a lot of thickness. start deadlifting !

i deadlift 240 with no straps 4 reps end of back workout

i just get wide befor tthick it will come in tiime

some alil older pics

[karm015]

lol kiwijuice.... OP is clearly taking the criticism like a man and being chill about it, take a lesson from him and calm the fk down bro

[Kiwijuice]

lol kiwijuice.... OP is clearly taking the criticism like a man and being chill about it, take a lesson from him and calm the fk down bro

ok

[Dontrunwithknives]

for sure man Im in no rush.. hitting chest twice a week now hardly hitting delts pretty much just need to get thicker with out getting wider or ill look retarded

bit late for that mate.

but i know what you mean. you got a lot of width but not a lot of thickness. start deadlifting !

i deadlift 240 with no straps 4 reps end of back workout

i just get wide befor tthick it will come in tiime

Strong deads. NZhredder got torn up over his back thickness but he managed to get more thickness, check out this thread viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14313

Fark looking massive in those pics :shock: also forearms look better in those pics, were you trying to show them a bit more?

[tgzerozone]

As you are only 18, may I ask when you started?

[thatwaslight]

As we all know all you need to do is shove a few needles in your ass and you can be 106kg at 13% bf with 18+ inch arms at 18, obv nothing to do with hard work and genetic potential....

I would go as far to say he prob has more genetic potential than nearly anyone on this board.

[vracula]

for sure man Im in no rush.. hitting chest twice a week now hardly hitting delts pretty much just need to get thicker with out getting wider or ill look retarded

bit late for that mate.

but i know what you mean. you got a lot of width but not a lot of thickness. start deadlifting !

i deadlift 240 with no straps 4 reps end of back workout

i just get wide befor tthick it will come in tiime

some alil older pics

faark that is mean for an 18 year old bro, hope you are competing or plan to compete.

[IamaFish]

As we all know all you need to do is shove a few needles in your ass and you can be 106kg at 13% bf with 18+ inch arms at 18, obv nothing to do with hard work and genetic potential....

I would go as far to say he prob has more genetic potential than nearly anyone on this board.

Oi Nah!! :-$

But srs, OP im jelly.

[Vader69]

As you are only 18, may I ask when you started?

14 yearsold man heres a pic when i first started

[thatwaslight]

As you are only 18, may I ask when you started?

14 yearsold man heres a pic when i first started