18 years old 106 5 ft 9

[genetic freek]

Hi Animal101

whos animal101

THis is you posting under a new name

http://www.nzbodybuilding.co.nz/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5032&start=80

[Shutupandsquat]

Hi Animal101

whos animal101

THis is you posting under a new name

http://www.nzbodybuilding.co.nz/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5032&start=80

SNAP

[thatwaslight]

Wow the natty card has come out already....is this bodybuilding.com? There are only disadvantages to disclosing drug use, Its not rocket science.

Who cares either way!

[bang_bang]

I see where you're coming from and if he had a bigger chest and some triceps to match those delts i'd agree with you. But the delts and biceps are obviously from harder training than the other bodyparts, rather than any genetic freaky'ness. If he was a genetic freak he'd look better, lets keep it real.

And i don't mean to take anything away from his achievement, I just think you pulled the GF-card out on the wrong guy

Fair enough but I think it's a bit hasty picking holes in his physique, he's 18 and has his whole training life ahead of him

On the terms and conditions, I'm pretty sure an opinion (not an allegation) is allowed. I haven't slammed him for it, just made the observation as one who's been around awhile and knows when a muscle appears "assisted" due to anabolics. I was in the Army at age 17 surrounded by 130 other teenagers for 12 months who all ate big and hit the gym every day to get big, naturally. So I think I've seen what natural can do for a teenager in his Testosterone/ GH prime years 130 times more than the average person gets to see.

I wasnt singling u out I was just pointing it out before everyone jumps on the accusation bandwagon. And I know u know what your talking about lol.

I'm impressed with his growth regardless, let's focus on the positive cos my "observation" wasn't meant to be a negative, just an "observation'.

I agree, let's keep this thread positive he's done bloody well either way

[Vader69]

Terms and conditions:

Allegations of drug use (whether true or not) have the potential to ruin a career. Therefore unless an individual has publicly confirmed such use, anyone suggesting this (even jokingly) may be disciplined.

Just sayin'

Show some respect, this kids bigger than most of the guys on here who have been using gear for years. True genetic freak.

f*ck aesthetics bro, sheer mass FTW

I see where you're coming from and if he had a bigger chest and some triceps to match those delts i'd agree with you. But the delts and biceps are obviously from harder training than the other bodyparts, rather than any genetic freaky'ness. If he was a genetic freak he'd look better, lets keep it real.

And i don't mean to take anything away from his achievement, I just think you pulled the GF-card out on the wrong guy :nod:

On the terms and conditions, I'm pretty sure an opinion (not an allegation) is allowed. I haven't slammed him for it, just made the observation as one who's been around awhile and knows when a muscle appears "assisted" due to anabolics. I was in the Army at age 17 surrounded by 130 other teenagers for 12 months who all ate big and hit the gym every day to get big, naturally. So I think I've seen what natural can do for a teenager in his Testosterone/ GH prime years 130 times more than the average person gets to see.

I'm impressed with his growth regardless, let's focus on the positive cos my "observation" wasn't meant to be a negative, just an "observation'.

Im natural man My delts just grow very fast I dont even train them

[Mike Zero]

Wow the natty card has come out already....is this bodybuilding.com? There are only disadvantages to disclosing drug use, Its not rocket science.

Who cares either way!

Well said. Android, no matter what your opinion is, surely you have better things to do than write 1000 words on why a guy on the internet, whom you have never met and only just heard about, is not natural? I don't see how it can bother you so much, forget about it and move on IMHO.

[Vader69]

Everyone has there own reason to disclose their drug use or not. Why the hate?

Huge respect to your physique Vader! Kind of makes me cringe that I have trained for so long and I'm not much bigger than you lol. You'll have a huge future if you do end up going down the bodybuilding path. :clap:

thanks alot man

uv def got better legs tho lol

[Vader69]

Wow the natty card has come out already....is this bodybuilding.com? There are only disadvantages to disclosing drug use, Its not rocket science.

Who cares either way!

Well said. Android, no matter what your opinion is, surely you have better things to do than write 1000 words on why a guy on the internet, whom you have never met and only just heard about, is not natural? I don't see how it can bother you so much, forget about it and move on IMHO.

met u when i was 14 man haha

[BeastBuilder]

[Chemo]

tribulus delts

[startinfromscratch]

tribulus delts

:pfft: :pfft: :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[vracula]

Impressive whther your juicing or not.

But if you are you are still a dick for lying and there was no need to make it part of the title of the thread

what is natural and not is so totally skewed out there because of liars,someone has to take responsibility for it.

Again if your natural u sir are my inspiration

[I Declare War]

tribulus delts

I want to see more pictures. Finding it hard to believe that this guy's natural. 106kg on a 5 ft 9 white guy is quite a lot... espically at what looks to be less than 10% bodyfat. Genetics must be quite good tho... look at his forarms they're not even that big... I'd bet he doesn't do much heavy compound work. So that's quite impressive to have been able to build arms and delts like that without having to do the heavy stuff.

Lucky he's posting the pics here rather than a place like GetBig... they wouldn't be so nice there.

[comingdayandnight]

Most cunts 25+ on the juice don't look like that so i'm gathering your all full of shit and are on a cocktail of this and that.

Good size though, mirin.

[thatwaslight]

while i agree that op is ugly as f*ck its NO ONES business what he takes in the privacy of his local park! and what does it matter anyway this a fucking bodybuilding forum.

lets not be a bunch of hating phaggets.

[I Declare War]

while i agree that op is ugly as f*ck its NO ONES business what he takes in the privacy of his local park! and what does it matter anyway this a fucking bodybuilding forum.

lets not be a bunch of hating phaggets.

shit who's saying he's ugly as f*ck? you're worse than the rest of us.

ofcourse it doesn't matter what he takes... but he makes a case of stating he takes nothing in the title of the thread. and that's quite rightly questionable. if it is true that he is natty, then I want to know how he trains and diets. might learn something eh! i'll follow his shit to the letter and get off gear myself!

[Vader69]

tribulus delts

I want to see more pictures. Finding it hard to believe that this guy's natural. 106kg on a 5 ft 9 white guy is quite a lot... espically at what looks to be less than 10% bodyfat. Genetics must be quite good tho... look at his forarms they're not even that big... I'd bet he doesn't do much heavy compound work. So that's quite impressive to have been able to build arms and delts like that without having to do the heavy stuff.

Lucky he's posting the pics here rather than a place like GetBig... they wouldn't be so nice there.

LOL my forearms

[pyro]

tribulus delts

I want to see more pictures. Finding it hard to believe that this guy's natural. 106kg on a 5 ft 9 white guy is quite a lot... espically at what looks to be less than 10% bodyfat. Genetics must be quite good tho... look at his forarms they're not even that big... I'd bet he doesn't do much heavy compound work. So that's quite impressive to have been able to build arms and delts like that without having to do the heavy stuff.

Lucky he's posting the pics here rather than a place like GetBig... they wouldn't be so nice there.

LOL my forearms

Was the first thing i noticed as well. Massive arms delts, but no forearms. Great work though looking huge especially for your age. Regardless of being on or not clearly a lot of hard work and effort goes into your training, will be interesting to see where you are at if you stick with it for a couple more years.

[Vader69]

I want to see more pictures. Finding it hard to believe that this guy's natural. 106kg on a 5 ft 9 white guy is quite a lot... espically at what looks to be less than 10% bodyfat. Genetics must be quite good tho... look at his forarms they're not even that big... I'd bet he doesn't do much heavy compound work. So that's quite impressive to have been able to build arms and delts like that without having to do the heavy stuff.

Lucky he's posting the pics here rather than a place like GetBig... they wouldn't be so nice there.

LOL my forearms

Was the first thing i noticed as well. Massive arms delts, but no forearms. Great work though looking huge especially for your age. Regardless of being on or not clearly a lot of hard work and effort goes into your training, will be interesting to see where you are at if you stick with it for a couple more years.

thanks bro iv never been told that befor in real life i think its just the pic

[pyro]

Yea maybe it is, hard to tell with only the 1 pic on that angle. Was just an observation, wasn't giving you shit or anything

[BeastBuilder]

Knowing Op irl he definitely does not have small forearms, they're like the size of my upper arm !! :pfft:

And no heavy work ? I would have to say from what i know that if what he lifts is not classed as heavy then I may as well give up being a Powerlifter as I must be shifting light as f*ck weight.. :?

[Jigga]

On the whole lying about gear topic. I think it's fine to deny it if someone asks you outright because they have put you in a situation where you have to say yes/no.

Someone who juices and brags openly about their natty genetics is a dickhead.

[snoopy]

Natural progress or not he has done very well for his age and has outstanding arms and shoulders.

Lets not forget though that bodybuilding is all smoke and mirrors, he is standing next to an asian who has the same torso width and thickness as him... I wouldn't say his arms are over 16.0 inches, but they look impressive especially next to the asian, but I dont believe he is 106kg's or whatever it was, simply because of his lack of torso.

Sorry dude, but your chest is a tad tiny. Your still young though, so hopefully in the next five years you can beef that chest up.

[olympia]

Hey bro. Excellent progress . :clap: What are your goals for the future? Would you look to compete one day or just concentarting on mass for now?

Not that it matters but what is the measurement around bi/tri ? I was guessin around 17-17.5 by the pic. Good on you for posting the pics. PS i think your beanie is a size to big, its fallen over your eyes

[hhhh1]

still 'natty' if u inject insulin?