Considering an oral cycle, would appreciate opinions

[Lowgz]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

[Outkast]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

NO... If you cant inject dont bother jumping on gear not if you planning on growing anyway... If you want to grow you want test

[TitanWarrior]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

Yeah sure oral cycle would be fantastic, screw the anavar and d-bol and go suck some cock for your oral needs. I heard elephant semen mixed with ant semen adapts perfectly to the human cellular system and produces increased anal enlargement which is probably what your after.

Hahahaha stop being a little bitch if you cant pin dont bother you inbred tyranasaurus rex ass muncher. no cycle is complete without test. do some research, your ovaries will thanks you for it.

[ravi1414]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

Yeah sure oral cycle would be fantastic, screw the anavar and d-bol and go suck some cock for your oral needs. I heard elephant semen mixed with ant semen adapts perfectly to the human cellular system and produces increased anal enlargement which is probably what your after.

Hahahaha stop being a little bitch if you cant pin dont bother you inbred tyranasaurus rex ass muncher. no cycle is complete without test. do some research, your ovaries will thanks you for it.

Calm down man .. dats a bit harsh on the kid ..all he asked if he is on the right track or not ..just say NO ..

[I Declare War]

There's nothing inherently wrong with short oral only cycles followed by a proper PCT.

Keep in mind that the Orals will suppress your testosterone production, so if you go too long you'll be running without your natural base of testosterone.

I'd say a 4 week cycle of Dbol only isn't the worst thing in the world really. That used to be quite a common cycle back in the day.

[Daz69]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

Depends what your after Mate.....

Anavar is ok if your into contact sports, its excellent for strength & aggression leading up to fights...... Or great for sticking the nut on Titan-cocksucker....

Not for long term mass gains, you'll need a base of injectable testosterone......

[Outkast]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

Yeah sure oral cycle would be fantastic, screw the anavar and d-bol and go suck some cock for your oral needs. I heard elephant semen mixed with ant semen adapts perfectly to the human cellular system and produces increased anal enlargement which is probably what your after.

Hahahaha stop being a little bitch if you cant pin dont bother you inbred tyranasaurus rex ass muncher. no cycle is complete without test. do some research, your ovaries will thanks you for it.

be nice! lol

[tomleegolf]

A workmate of mine was telling me about a friend of his who did a Dbol cycle and gained 10kgs, keeping about 5 of it.

[TitanWarrior]

I've been training roughly 1.5 years, I've gone from a scrawny 55kg~ to 70-75kg 5'11 at roughly 11% Bf (estimate, small build).

I'd be looking for some more size but mainly strength gains while staying relatively leanish so I've been considering Anavar/Dbol??

Am I On the right track? As I said I'm just considering it currently and would appreciate any opinions/advice from you guys.

Cheers.

Can post pics if required.

Depends what your after Mate.....

Anavar is ok if your into contact sports, its excellent for strength & aggression leading up to fights...... Or great for sticking the nut on Titan-cocksucker....

Not for long term mass gains, you'll need a base of injectable testosterone......

haha wtf try stick the nut on me with your anavar ... mean whiles im running test you will be destroyed. soniiiiiiiiiic boooooooooooooom. do your research enanthate is king any of these old school roid muchers will tell u, and u would know if u did some f-n research. stick to cycling your creatine until your ready for the pins. as mr miyagi said in karate kid 2 "you should only pickle gerkins, not your liver" even though anavar is only "mildy" toxic to the liver its a hell of a lot more $$ than test (in regards to effectivness)

[startinfromscratch]

A workmate of mine was telling me about a friend of his who did a Dbol cycle and gained 10kgs, keeping about 5 of it.

was his name dave?

[TitanWarrior]

A workmate of mine was telling me about a friend of his who did a Dbol cycle and gained 10kgs, keeping about 5 of it.

was his name dave?

must work at the freezin works too

[Chemo]

Doable, not cost efficient but convenient.

Wouldnt stop ya, but just gotta realise its not gonna be the best bang for your buck. And it wont yield the end product a cycle of test would.

Could get away with a decent dose of Var, but some orals like dbol and winny would shut you down on a low dosage. You'd want to run the cycle for at least 6 weeks to make it worth it, and still have PCT ready to be safe.

[Shellski]

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[tomsammce]

good luck finding legitimate properly dosed UG anavar in this country, anavar powder is so expensive its not worth making tabs/capsules to sell on the black market. if you are offered some reject it immediatly as i highly doubt its what you have been told it is.

[ravi1414]

good luck finding legitimate properly dosed UG anavar in this country, anavar powder is so expensive its not worth making tabs/capsules to sell on the black market. if you are offered some reject it immediatly as i highly doubt its what you have been told it is.

+1 to this .. if its a real deal, then you wud crap your pants seeing the price ..

[Lowgz]

Thanks for the feedback guys, time to have a long hard think about my future

[I Declare War]

Thanks for the feedback guys, time to have a long hard think about my future

Keep in mind that if you do do a Dbol only cycle... you're libido will be shot once your natural testosterone levels are gone. Dbol by itself... gives me zero libido... just not interested at all if I'm only on Dbol. Something to consider... if that's important for you or your partner.

[snoopy]

There's nothing inherently wrong with short oral only cycles followed by a proper PCT.

Keep in mind that the Orals will suppress your testosterone production, so if you go too long you'll be running without your natural base of testosterone.

I'd say a 4 week cycle of Dbol only isn't the worst thing in the world really. That used to be quite a common cycle back in the day.

Oi, when did D'Bol surpress your natural test system? It was created by Mr Ziggler or whatever so it didn't surpress the natural test system?? That was the whole point of it, for excessive protein synthesis and jack all test suppression?

When did this new research pop up outside of my cave?

[tomleegolf]

Dianabol will raise your blood pressure (4) and is also hepatoxic (Liver-Toxic), so be careful with it. Although I have known people to take up to 100mgs/day of this stuff and not suffer any ill-effects, and one study looked at that exact dose, and the people involved didnt suffer any intolerable side effects ( 7). Lets examine this particular study a bit further, though:

In this study, done in the early 80s, a very high dose of Dianabol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of its normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of its original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Body fat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance. I can only agree, having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day), I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly of it. Since then, Dianabol has always had a special place in my heart.

Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Dianabol.php#ixzz1iQD26e9f

[I Declare War]

There's nothing inherently wrong with short oral only cycles followed by a proper PCT.

Keep in mind that the Orals will suppress your testosterone production, so if you go too long you'll be running without your natural base of testosterone.

I'd say a 4 week cycle of Dbol only isn't the worst thing in the world really. That used to be quite a common cycle back in the day.

Oi, when did D'Bol surpress your natural test system? It was created by Mr Ziggler or whatever so it didn't surpress the natural test system?? That was the whole point of it, for excessive protein synthesis and jack all test suppression?

When did this new research pop up outside of my cave?

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/diana ... sion/2147/

[Lowgz]

Was also wondering, If I was to run a cycle and hit close to my 'genetic potential' or surpass it, Would I still be able to gain strength post cycle?

Would I be gaining strength but no mass or would both increase but at an insanely slow speed?

Cheers

[Riccardo]

If you go into it with realistic expectations then I don't really see why not. You would be better off doing straight test but if you are just looking to dabble, see the kind of strength gains you can get and aren't expecting to gain and keep large amounts of mass/strength then you won't be disappointed.

You will probably gain and keep a couple kg. Probably won't keep much strength gains though.

[bang_bang]

Riccardo, do u agree that dbol will shutdown your natural test or could u get away with a short cycle? I would have thought dbol only cycles would be more common if it didn't shut u down..

[I Declare War]

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid- ... 56083.html

[severe]

Oral only reminds me of this: