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Crossfit, Why does everyone bag it?

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crazyfacials Veteran member

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Because making fun of cross fittesrs is the cool thing to do nowday?

to be honest I don't care what anyone does at home/gym/where ever as long as it doesn't effect me or interfere with whatever I do...

that being said I have noticed lots of hot chicks are into crossfit as of late

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I wouldn't bag it if they used correct technique.

Serious risk of injury because they all use the same weight instead of using an appropriate weight for their ability. I do get concerned about other people.

it's no different to any person in the gym using bad technique lots if bodybuilders use bad technique too.

If you pay and go to a proper crossfit gym they hold 'basics' workout classes aimed at beginners to teach and install proper techinques.

So I don't know where you get the idea that crossfit is full of bad technique any more so than any other group of ppl or gym.

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Who's been bagging it?

I think it's a great thing to try out, been around for a while just more commercial now and it's working. Made us PLs try out overhead squats and I can give dem ladies I was watching the up most respect doing 155lb EASY and we struggled on 50kgs.

Will slowly implement crossfit type exercises into my PL program as the fitness gets better and weight comes down a bit but probably my preffered type of cardio HIIT stuff rather than a 30m jog type of thing..

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sorry for the cut/paste but this sums it pretty well

WHY CROSSFIT SUCKS!

No Progression - And sadly, no regression. Crossfit doesn't have a progression or regression protocol for it's "coaches" to follow. They just expect everyone to be proficient at the olympic lifts from day one.

Doing Technically Challenging Lifts While in a State of Exhaustion - Many times the workout of the day (WOD) will have an olympic lift preceded by some long run. It may be like: run 200 meters then clean and press 135 pounds as many times as you can in 60 seconds. My opinion, pre-exhausting yourself before doing a technically challenging lift is a recipe for disaster.

Unqualified Coaches Teaching These Lifts - To be a Crossfit "coach", you must pay $500US for a one day workshop. In this workshop, you spend the day learning to teach the methods and lifts in the Crossfit program (I use the term Crossfit program loosely, but more on that later). You can't learn enough in one eight hour workshop to be proficient at teaching these lifts.

No Program - The slogan of Crossfit is "Increased work capacity over a broad domain." To me, that sounds like be mediocre at everything and good at nothing. It seems as though the WOD's are just made up on the spot with no thought given to periodization. I think the people who write the WOD's focus on the workout and not the program. The workouts just focus on being hard. It's important for people to realize that just because something is hard, it doesn't means it's effective.

I am all for anything that gets people off the couch and moving. I just fear that, with Crossfit, the risk far outweighs the reward.

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Crossfit generally is just expensive circuit training, with douchey, elitest, clueless instructors.

Agree with Mike on this. Also the fact that to become an authenticated CrossFit coach i think the cost was $1500NZ for a two or 3 day course.(Crash Course). Also i agree on the part that the coaches expect that everyone knows the basic olympic lifts, i find this contradictory since the majority of crossfitters are people who are more of a weekend warrior type trainees and wouldnt have a clue and end up getting a very quick crash course in olympic lifts.(opens up possibilities to injuries)

Im not bagging it in no way and i believe it has its place in the world of fitness but it has been too comercialised the last few years.

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Is there anyone who has actually given crossfit a real go (minimum of a month of training) who has something 'suckful' to say about crossfit? not interested about what you've 'heard' or read on the interweb.

I've never done it but can appreciate the physical capacity that is required to be an above average 'crossfitter' :)

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Is there anyone who has actually given crossfit a real go (minimum of a month of training) who has something 'suckful' to say about crossfit? not interested about what you've 'heard' or read on the interweb.

I've never done it but can appreciate the physical capacity that is required to be an above average 'crossfitter' :)

I think one of the ladies from this site does it for her workouts

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Taken from an event with veteran CrossFit athletes. Hitting axle clean and jerks. Supervised by Strongman Certified Coaches. Axle weight is about 10-15lbs. This lift is not a standard Clean and Jerk.

Bout as ugly as my log press last week

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Hi Tom,

I dont think everyone bags it, infact most people that I have met that go to these gyms love it, but I suppose on a Power lifting/Bodybuilding biased site it wont be everyones cup of tea. There are certainly some lean/fit people doing this.A guy I used to work with who was into this was 6% year round and well muscled, he was however a natural sprinter(which may in part account for the build) who did always have niggling injuries and bugger all energy to work as he followed a Paleo diet that didnt give him enough calories to sustain 4 Cross Fit ssession PW!

IMO the pros are:

1. Definately fat loss as the workouts can be very intense and challenging, one common saying is that it makes girls smaller (good) and guys smaller good or bad depending on your goal)

2.Variety, which is pretty important to keep most motivated

ans SOME variety is important for progression.

3.Challenge and feeling of accomplishment as many people will have never performed a pull up, deadlift, snatch or clean etc and getting into these can be very impowering

4. Team atmospehere, Some are motivated by a team atmospehere (this is one reason why group fitness and team sports can be so popular)

5. Competition versus self and others at competitions both inhouse and regional

Cons:

My cons are mainly with the exercise programming, participant screening and learning times required to perform the lifts not the actual exercise themselves, as well as the risk/reward ratio of the programming e.g are the exercise and rep/rest ratios going to ellicit an optimal training result compared to the injury potential or are they prescribed to keep the participant from being bored and for bragging rights if you can get through it? Are there other exercises that could achieve this result with less risk. IMO this is very important as no one likes being injured as you cant achieve your goals when you have too many injuries, especially in the lumbar spine/shoulders/wrists etc.

Also the fact that if you try to train too many capacites in one work out e.g 1 rep maxe's, muscle endurance then cardiovascular conditioning etc, then you dont really get great at any of these and progress in anyone is slow.This is why you wont see a world class lifter running a marathon and vice versa.

I personally dont think that comples exercises designed for power/speed development (such as snatches etc) should be trained in high rep endurance ranges due to the technical breakdown of the lift as fatigue sets in.

Some state that Crossfit produces the best all round athletes, but this statement is misleading IMO as training needs to be specific to the goal outcome to be effective e.g being aerobically and anaerobically fit alone wont make you a great footballer, you also need: technical skill, communication, agility, positional knowledge, close controll of the ball, vertical and lateral jumping etc.alot of this is not produced in the gym but on the sports and training field.

IMO training crossfit makes you better at the goal outcome which is being better at ther sport of crossfit, which isnt a bad thing for those involved and it appears to be a great fatloss tool.

My concerns are over the programming and injury rates which I believe would be relatively high due to the complex/intense nature of the exercises involved and the lack of a personalised format, however with over 50% of our country overweight, their are definatley alot worse things that people could be doing as despite the injury risks, it seems to get people off their arses and moving in a motivating environment. A PT could certainly use elements of this in their circuits, however I would personally be very cautious with the hi rep olympic and power lifts and would only prescribe lifts that suited a clients injury/flexibilty profile and would definately need to "qualify" the client for the lift rather than just telling them to do it.

Just my 2 cents.

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