human growth hormone

[Optimass]

Would HGH be a good alternative to test? I realize its super expensive.

IMO no ... probably based more on cost. Depends what really drives you - most guys/gals would get a good result of low dose test ... I'd be interested to know what drives guys not going pro and/or not affected by a body image disorder to take it? (note: not bagging but can't see the real benefit from my own perspective ... given I do actually have BDD).

[jimmybro1]

Currently been training 4 years and 92kg @ 8%bf 182cm. I pretty happy with my physique but would like to take it to the next level my gains over the last 12 months have dramatically reduced dispite a flawless diet for over 2 years.

I'm able to get enthanate easily as most my mates take testostrone but they become dependent on it, gains seem to be non-existant when they cycle off dispite good PCT etc. I'm not looking at having to continously take testostrone and have researched it over the pass 12 months so I would like to think I know a bit about them.

I would definitely take testostrone in my 30's - 40's but early 20's seems to earliy. To earliy for HGH I realize too! Could possibly take more anabolic compounds rather than androgenic like equipoise. Thoughts?

[Markie]

I have a friend in his eightie who recently beat prostrate cancer..but now he does mot produce any testoterone the result being it has left him weak i suggestedbhe asked his doctor for hgh.so mow he is taking it as well as dhea its only been amonth but already he is feeling better...they wont give hine test hrt as they think it could bring back the cancer ...i myself am sufferingbfrom low testoterone and my gym workouts are suffering because ofbthet im 49 ...im thinking of going to pattaya andbdoing a three month cycle on test and hgh to revitiloze.my body ..can anybody steer me in the right direction ?

[thatwaslight]

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[Android]

I have a friend in his eightie who recently beat prostrate cancer..but now he does mot produce any testoterone the result being it has left him weak i suggestedbhe asked his doctor for hgh.so mow he is taking it as well as dhea its only been amonth but already he is feeling better...they wont give hine test hrt as they think it could bring back the cancer ...i myself am sufferingbfrom low testoterone and my gym workouts are suffering because ofbthet im 49 ...im thinking of going to pattaya andbdoing a three month cycle on test and hgh to revitiloze.my body ..can anybody steer me in the right direction ?

omg Test might give cancer but HGH won't - LOLOL

HGH is pretty well known to help cancer cells thrive, wtf has Test got to do with cancer...errr are they talking about hardening of the prostrate perhaps which is valid.

Find a doctor that will test your levels and they should if it is under 10 or 12 nmols be able to prescribe you Reandron or whatever. You don't have to use your family doctor mate

[samoan_muscle]

I just know my body would react badly to test.

Currently been training 4 years and 92kg @ 8%bf 182cm. I pretty happy with my physique but would like to take it to the next level my gains over the last 12 months have dramatically reduced dispite a flawless diet for over 2 years.

I'm able to get enthanate easily as most my mates take testostrone but they become dependent on it, gains seem to be non-existant when they cycle off dispite good PCT etc. I'm not looking at having to continously take testostrone and have researched it over the pass 12 months so I would like to think I know a bit about them.

I would definitely take testostrone in my 30's - 40's but early 20's seems to earliy. To earliy for HGH I realize too! Could possibly take more anabolic compounds rather than androgenic like equipoise. Thoughts?

You should look at having your testicles surgically removed if you think you'll react badly to test.

[musclenz]

I have a friend in his eightie who recently beat prostrate cancer..but now he does mot produce any testoterone the result being it has left him weak i suggestedbhe asked his doctor for hgh.so mow he is taking it as well as dhea its only been amonth but already he is feeling better...they wont give hine test hrt as they think it could bring back the cancer ...i myself am sufferingbfrom low testoterone and my gym workouts are suffering because ofbthet im 49 ...im thinking of going to pattaya andbdoing a three month cycle on test and hgh to revitiloze.my body ..can anybody steer me in the right direction ?

omg Test might give cancer but HGH won't - LOLOL

HGH is pretty well known to help cancer cells thrive, wtf has Test got to do with cancer...errr are they talking about hardening of the prostrate perhaps which is valid.

Find a doctor that will test your levels and they should if it is under 10 or 12 nmols be able to prescribe you Reandron or whatever. You don't have to use your family doctor mate

There has been a body of medical "experts" that concluded in their infinate wisdom, that Testosterone was linked to the development of prostate cancer although males with hypogonadism (low testosterone) still developed prostate cancer & no clinical studies apart from one done in the 1940's, linked endogenous or exogenous testosterone to cancer in the prostate. There are studies, however that show that high levels of HGH can increase the rate of cancer cellular growth.

[Daz69]

Long term side effect of H.G.H is unknown.

Hollywood stars start taking H.G.H in their 50s and I predict they will have some health problems in their early 60s, possibly cancer or some kidney problems.

I'd wait till late 40-50 years old to think about H.G.H.

I must be dead then.......

[Markie]

Thanks for the info but from what I understand it is low testosterone that puts you at risk of cancer in the first place.....and as I understand it human growth hormone has never been proven to accelerate or initiate cancer , but as an aside seeing as I'm going to Thailand could anynofyou learned gentlemen give me a run down of what I should be taking when I start on this adventure ? I don't want to bulk up like water retention etc but want strenght and leanness with some size increase ...so as to help with muay Thai training ..and well soi can take my shirt off again in public ....

[Daz69]

I have a friend in his eightie who recently beat prostrate cancer..but now he does mot produce any testoterone the result being it has left him weak i suggestedbhe asked his doctor for hgh.so mow he is taking it as well as dhea its only been amonth but already he is feeling better...they wont give hine test hrt as they think it could bring back the cancer ...i myself am sufferingbfrom low testoterone and my gym workouts are suffering because ofbthet im 49 ...im thinking of going to pattaya andbdoing a three month cycle on test and hgh to revitiloze.my body ..can anybody steer me in the right direction ?

About 9333.77km on a NW bearing from Auckland......

[Android]

Thanks for the info but from what I understand it is low testosterone that puts you at risk of cancer in the first place.....and as I understand it human growth hormone has never been proven to accelerate or initiate cancer , but as an aside seeing as I'm going to Thailand could anynofyou learned gentlemen give me a run down of what I should be taking when I start on this adventure ? I don't want to bulk up like water retention etc but want strenght and leanness with some size increase ...so as to help with muay Thai training ..and well soi can take my shirt off again in public ....

Sounds like you know lots, just google for gear that doesn't cause water retention

Here you go:

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=steroids+low+water+retention&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

that was easy :shifty:

[HarryB]

Thanks for the info but from what I understand it is low testosterone that puts you at risk of cancer in the first place.....and as I understand it human growth hormone has never been proven to accelerate or initiate cancer , but as an aside seeing as I'm going to Thailand could anynofyou learned gentlemen give me a run down of what I should be taking when I start on this adventure ? I don't want to bulk up like water retention etc but want strenght and leanness with some size increase ...so as to help with muay Thai training ..and well soi can take my shirt off again in public ....

Sounds like you know lots, just google for gear that doesn't cause water retention

Here you go:

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=steroids+low+water+retention&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

that was easy :shifty:

I have noticed a marked increase in your use of sarcasm.. is that what you do now you're a PLer

[Android]

hahaha

The hilarity is that he said his mate or whatever was refused HRT cos it might produce cancer, then he has a farking memory lapse and tells me low Test causes cancer

I mean what is this...pre-school

[HarryB]

hahaha

The hilarity is that he said his mate or whatever was refused HRT cos it might produce cancer, then he has a farking memory lapse and tells me low Test causes cancer

I mean what is this...pre-school

Oh I got what he said and I laughed right along with you... and yes, yes it is pre school!!!

[jimmybro1]

You should look at having your testicles surgically removed if you think you'll react badly to test.

[beefneggs]

Lots of folks use HGH all year round, on or off cycle.

and how much dosh does this all year shit set you back...does someone have to take out a mortgage...even a 6 month cycle would be a bit wouldnt it??? maybe IM outta the loop

[Diab0lic]

Lots of folks use HGH all year round, on or off cycle.

and how much dosh does this all year shit set you back...does someone have to take out a mortgage...even a 6 month cycle would be a bit wouldnt it??? maybe IM outta the loop

Id say you'd be looking at about a hundred a week (ish)

Pros spend much much more...

Anyone with first hand knowledge on sane dosage prices per year?

[Diab0lic]

OK, looks like it would be more like $150-$200 per week for a low to moderate dose depending on your source...

Got cash?

[Grover]

works out $30 a shot at .4mg a day on legit stuff, results minimal at this level though.

libido increased :wink:

Strength not so noticable

[Hone]

Can anyone comment on HGH useage for wound repair?

I am a female with an unhealed wound and had heard reports that HGH could be beneficial in wound repair. Or would the risks outweigh the benefits?

GH does help with injuries. You don't need to use high doses, 2iu per day is enough. Low risk of side effects at this dose. I have cleared up a nagging shoulder injury with this dosage plus getting other benfits that GH provides you with i.e. sleeping better.

[ravi1414]

OK, looks like it would be more like $150-$200 per week for a low to moderate dose depending on your source...

Got cash?

pretty sure more than thaT.. IMO you need 4iu to transform you body into a good one .. run that for atleast 20 weeks .. gettin pharm grade HGH in NZ would be hard ..