Cutting the Dbol

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

Next week will be my 5th week on dbol 8 tabs per day also doing sus every 2 days 3 times per week at 1ml along with deca once per week at 1.5ml anyway I will be cutting out the dbol end of next week and keeping on with sus and deca when i cut out the dbol will i need to start up my pcts or will the sus and deca keep me safe and then two weeks after ive finished running the sus and deca run my pct then? using Arimidex for pct at 0.25mg evey 2-3 days for two weeks

what do you all think :discussion:

[olympia]

Wait until the end of cycle bro? Whats gains have you had so far?

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

Wait until the end of cycle bro? Whats gains have you had so far?

Gone from 82 kg up to 90 kg this is the start of my 5th week I would love to work up to 130kg not sure how long this will take bodyfat 4 weeks ago was at 21% prob at 24% now

[holdenman]

Wait until the end of cycle bro? Whats gains have you had so far?

Gone from 82 kg up to 90 kg this is the start of my 5th week I would love to work up to 130kg not sure how long this will take bodyfat 4 weeks ago was at 21% prob at 24% now

:shock: Are you for real??

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

Wait until the end of cycle bro? Whats gains have you had so far?

Gone from 82 kg up to 90 kg this is the start of my 5th week I would love to work up to 130kg not sure how long this will take bodyfat 4 weeks ago was at 21% prob at 24% now

:shock: Are you for real??

yes why do you say that? in the past i trained for ten years took 8 years off now im back my age is 34

[samuelNZ]

:shock:

[holdenman]

Gone from 82 kg up to 90 kg this is the start of my 5th week I would love to work up to 130kg not sure how long this will take bodyfat 4 weeks ago was at 21% prob at 24% now

:shock: Are you for real??

yes why do you say that? in the past i trained for ten years took 8 years off now im back my age is 34

Well what weight/bf did you used to be? How tall are you? Because 90kg is fairly light, and 24% bf is high. And you want to get to 130KG?

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

:shock: Are you for real??

yes why do you say that? in the past i trained for ten years took 8 years off now im back my age is 34

Well what weight/bf did you used to be? How tall are you? Because 90kg is fairly light, and 24% bf is high. And you want to get to 130KG?

5.7 is my height

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

yes why do you say that? in the past i trained for ten years took 8 years off now im back my age is 34

Well what weight/bf did you used to be? How tall are you? Because 90kg is fairly light, and 24% bf is high. And you want to get to 130KG?

5.7 is my height

last tme i competed off season weight was 85-90 comp weight was 65kg with bodyfat at 3% 21-24% Is ok for off season you got any pics?

[genetic freek]

wait till you go off, if anything you should have less estrogen probs when you drop out the dbol they are nasty fuckers

8 is a shit load a day if they the real deal

[I Declare War]

wait till you go off, if anything you should have less estrogen probs when you drop out the dbol they are nasty fuckers

8 is a shit load a day if they the real deal

well if they're 5mg tabs then it's 40mg.. while high.. not a crazy dosage.

21% bodyfat is a way to high of a bodyfat percentage to begin a bulk with. Body fat (adipose tissue) is the main site for androgens to convert to estrogens. Therefore, being overweight or having high body fat increases your gyno risk. Reducing body fat will lower your rate of estrogen conversion from aromatising steroids.

IMO... you shouldn't start a bulk cycle at that bodyfat... either you're just out of shape or your diet sucks... those two should be sorted out before starting a cycle.

[olympia]

wait till you go off, if anything you should have less estrogen probs when you drop out the dbol they are nasty fuckers

8 is a shit load a day if they the real deal

well if they're 5mg tabs then it's 45mg.. while high.. not a crazy dosage.

8 x 5 = 45? Haha man 130kg? Thatd be a 50kg over all gain on a 5 . 7 frame = epic

[holdenman]

Well what weight/bf did you used to be? How tall are you? Because 90kg is fairly light, and 24% bf is high. And you want to get to 130KG?

5.7 is my height

last tme i competed off season weight was 85-90 comp weight was 65kg with bodyfat at 3% 21-24% Is ok for off season you got any pics?

To be honest the 90kg doesn't mean a lot, but when your at 24%bf it does. That's, in my opinion, just too high. Why is it that high? For anyone to get to 130kg in any kind of decent condition is likely going to take a lifetime dedication to training,diet and drugs.

[I Declare War]

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[I Declare War]

wait till you go off, if anything you should have less estrogen probs when you drop out the dbol they are nasty fuckers

8 is a shit load a day if they the real deal

well if they're 5mg tabs then it's 45mg.. while high.. not a crazy dosage.

8 x 5 = 45? Haha man 130kg? Thatd be a 50kg over all gain on a 5 . 7 frame = epic

not strong with maths in the early morning bro! lol

5.7 is my height

last tme i competed off season weight was 85-90 comp weight was 65kg with bodyfat at 3% 21-24% Is ok for off season you got any pics?

To be honest the 90kg doesn't mean a lot, but when your at 24%bf it does. That's, in my opinion, just too high. Why is it that high? For anyone to get to 130kg in any kind of decent condition is likely going to take a lifetime dedication to training,diet and drugs.

130kg on that frame, that doesn't require just steroids, that's a shit load of insulin and HGH... strong delusion if he thinks he can do that with what he's currently on. even with all the drugs in the world if genetics aren't there you will never reach that weight.

[Android]

To answer your question, u don't need to start PCT coming off d-bols while still taking other compounds.

As others have covered the bodyfat...

I think goals are the only way to get to where u wanna be, awesome! But "a weight" isn't the best goal. Most of us do it, but most of us know it's dumb it just the easiest thing to measure daily or weekly.

130kg can look fuckn amazing, and 130kg can look like a sack of shit.

Pick a better goal IMO

[bulking4ever]

Never start pct while you're still on other compounds, you're done with Dbol but you're still on Test and deca.

And pct is to be started not 2 but 3 weeks after last shot because of Sustanon.

Hope this helps. Keep up with it bro.

[Daz69]

130kg on that frame, that doesn't require just steroids, that's a shit load of insulin and HGH... strong delusion if he thinks he can do that with what he's currently on. even with all the drugs in the world if genetics aren't there you will never reach that weight.

+1 :clap:

Due to its suppressive nature on natural testosterone, cease the Deca 2 weeks before the test.....

What's the take on using SERM's like Nolvadex as PCT with 19-nors like Deca..?

There's been quite a bit of debate on this recently, not sure if it was OK or not..????

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

Thanks for all of your feed back guys have been talking to my trainer and you are all right I need to get my bodyfat down to 18% 21-24 % is way to high lol now I feel like a fat ass so sorting my shit out back to low carb high protein diet till im at 18%. with the dbol and pct ill leave the pct till 2-3 weeks after my last sus jab and cut the deca 2 weeks before my last sus jab. You guy's have all been a big help dudes Train hard

[Tokoroa bodybuilder]

p.s

Any got some spear hgh lol :pfft:

[tomsammce]

18% is still a fucking fat c*nt.

[bulking4ever]

18% is still a fucking fat c*nt.

LOL !!!

[Daz69]

130kg on that frame, that doesn't require just steroids, that's a shit load of insulin and HGH... strong delusion if he thinks he can do that with what he's currently on. even with all the drugs in the world if genetics aren't there you will never reach that weight.

+1 :clap:

Due to its suppressive nature on natural testosterone, cease the Deca 2 weeks before the test.....

What's the take on using SERM's like Nolvadex as PCT with 19-nors like Deca..?

There's been quite a bit of debate on this recently, not sure if it was OK or not..????

Anyone...????? :roll:

[I Declare War]

130kg on that frame, that doesn't require just steroids, that's a shit load of insulin and HGH... strong delusion if he thinks he can do that with what he's currently on. even with all the drugs in the world if genetics aren't there you will never reach that weight.

+1 :clap:

Due to its suppressive nature on natural testosterone, cease the Deca 2 weeks before the test.....

What's the take on using SERM's like Nolvadex as PCT with 19-nors like Deca..?

There's been quite a bit of debate on this recently, not sure if it was OK or not..????

Anyone...????? :roll:

No more arguing for me... Oblix might come back and piss me off again lol. I value my sleep.

[Daz69]

+1 :clap:

Due to its suppressive nature on natural testosterone, cease the Deca 2 weeks before the test.....

What's the take on using SERM's like Nolvadex as PCT with 19-nors like Deca..?

There's been quite a bit of debate on this recently, not sure if it was OK or not..????

Anyone...????? :roll:

No more arguing for me... Oblix might come back and piss me off again lol. I value my sleep.

You know you want to................................ :grin: