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I also don't see any point for a small cycle like this when going to be useing long esters like Enant or Cyp to have a shot any more frequently than once a week. There's plenty of time to become a human pin cousion later on down the track :pfft:

No, as 250mg is just enough to shut off your natural test production & then raise test levels to roughly just above normal so you're really not going to be getting that much "extra" test in your system to be perfectly honest I like the cycle you had posted before.

:shock: you would shoot all 500mg at once?

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Yep I sure would, once a week say Mondays, cut's down on shots per week & to be honest it really isn't going to make a hell of a differance spliting it during the week Test Enant has a half life of 10.5 days so once every 7 days is fine as blood levels are going to stay fairly cocntant.

If it was Prop I say every 2 day as it's half life is only 4.5 days so you need much more frequent doseing to keep plasma blool levels consistant.

If someone was doing say 1000mg of Enant a week then out of sheer volume of the oil I'd split it during the week.

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wot would b your opinion on sust eg.dosage, stacking,pct.

That's such a general question I could literaly post pages on the subjuct. For a very basic overview, sust is usually used in doses between 250mg-1500mg a week depending on what you're useing it for, higher doses should be split during the week to make the most of the prop content in it. As for stacking, it can be used with pretty much anything again depending on your desired end result.

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was thinking more for a first timer wonting to put on mass. i no people who have used 250 once aweek but others have said this dose is way to low, you being a man of knowledge what would you recommend.

a friend has just done

sust a dose of 250 a week, 12 weeks

d-bol 30mg first 4 weeks and last 3 weeks

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Weeks 1-4 D-bol 30mg daily

Weeks 7-10 D-bol 30mg daily

Weeks 1-12 500mg Sustanon/week (250mg monday & 250mg thursday)

Weeks 15-18 Post Cycle Therapy

This is a very basic cycle, you "kick start" with the dbol for 4 weeks while the sust really kicks in then have a 2 week break to help de-stress the liver etc & hit another 4 weeks dbol.

This is a great cycle to add some real size & strength, but as with any cycle you need to make sure you sort out your pct to kick start your natural test again & help keep those hard earnt gains.

Make sure you also have an anti-e on hand during the cycle incase you are prone to gyno etc

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No, as 250mg is just enough to shut off your natural test production & then raise test levels to roughly just above normal so you're really not going to be getting that much "extra" test in your system

not challenging your answer as i know your one of big kiwis boys and u probably know your shit.

but why is it then that when some do a cycle of say 250mg of sustanon250 with one shot per week for 10 weeks.

why is it that some get really good gains off this when what u are basically saying is that it is only just enough to shut u down?

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No, as 250mg is just enough to shut off your natural test production & then raise test levels to roughly just above normal so you're really not going to be getting that much "extra" test in your system!

It will shut your natural test production that's for sure but as I also said, it will raise your test levels to just above normal or maybe a little more.

So in having said that you will have more test in your sustem than is "normaly" present, also being that it's (at this dosage) most likely a 1st cycle any increase above normal levels will produce some degree of gains & this is also sifferent in every person as everyone reacts to different substances & doses in different ways. Who's to say the guy that got great gains off 250mg a week didn't have really low test levels to start with?

You'll NEVER get the same gains again as you do on your 1st cycle so why not make the most of it!

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ok fair enough.

but then if everyone reacts differently to substances/dosages, then shouldnt u see someones body type etc before sugesting cycles over the internet?

or does it all work pretty much the same?

Anything I may comment on here is purely my opinion based on the countless hours of research, talking to many many top athletes from a huge array of sporting codes including some of the Pro BB's.

For me to actually design a persons cycle I want them to get a full blood work up 1st & also need to know a medical history so I can taylor it to their needs, goals & physical requirments to get the best results while keeping them healthy!

People need to do a lot of research themselves 1st as there are for to many people out there looking to make a fast buck & sell this product & that product as long as the person is seeing results they'll keep coming back, not knowing all the facts about what they are actually taking etc.

I make a living from programme / diet & cycle design & prode myself on my work & have done for a long time, so things that I may suggest on here are infact tried & tested & researched methods that would apply in a very broad spectrum, every person is different as I stated before & some will respond better to some things that others won't, but as a general rule of thumb for "most" beginners that is a great cycle with minimal sides that can be easily controled & will yeild great gains.

If you're going to second guess every post I put up with I know some one that got this..... I really suggest you spent some quality time (not a couple of hours either) reading & researching the subject!

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If you're going to second guess every post I put up with I know some one that got this..... I really suggest you spent some quality time (not a couple of hours either) reading & researching the subject

sorry if it sounded like i was doing this.

thanks for the info.

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Just wanting to know what each of the following acutally do:

Dbol

Test

Enanthate/Cypionate

Dbol is and oral AAS my man,good for stacking with testosterone{injectable},great for size and strength but can & will aromatise at too higher dose.

It pays to have nolvadex or an aromastise inhibitor such as aromadex on hand during cycle.

Enanthate/Cypionate are the "ester" in which the testosterone is delivered.

ie testostrone cypionate

testosterone enanthate

The ester determines the duration of activity of test of your blood stream.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-ste ... -life.aspx

I hope that helps young brother.

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