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did you EVEN read how I'm dosing it though? pre workout for a boost and only on workout days. so every other day. :twisted:

not a good idea ya reckon Tom?

i didnt read the whole thing.

but u are taking that much gear and only training eod? why bro?

that seems crazy to me but you are a crazy guy lol

I'm training two times on the day on bro, that's why.

sweet as, ill read your whole journal now bro.

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Just realized how much gear you on!

Repped for not roid raging every post. Strong willpower. :pfft:

What's the thinking behind prov on top of the masteron mate?

I don't have enough proviron to be running the 3-4 tabs per day I'd need to keep the estrogen in check... so I'm making do with the mast... would be great to have 1 less mL to inject.

Roid raging... that only happens when you're run down or blood pressure goes up too much. Trying my best to keep those in check this time around.

Feeling growthy as hell at the moment.. it's a madhouse! And the tren, that stuffs nuts my gf's complaining i'm lookin in the mirror more than she is. fuark!

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Glad you taking the initiative to get a blood pressure monitor and such.

Would be keen on hearing your personal take of running multiple esters of the same compound, in this case enanthate and prop.

Keep in mind i havent read all the posts in this thread, just skimmed to catch up.

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Glad you taking the initiative to get a blood pressure monitor and such.

Would be keen on hearing your personal take of running multiple esters of the same compound, in this case enanthate and prop.

Keep in mind i havent read all the posts in this thread, just skimmed to catch up.

Re the Esters, it's probably only going to make sense in my own head... but here goes... I'm working out one day on, one day off. On the day on I'm doing two workouts. On my workout day I'm running all the fast acting compounds. I feel Tren A much more on the same day that it is shot, and similarly I feel that the prop and mast give me a good spike and I also feel those most on the day. The Test E is the base of the cycle, and as it's being run at such a high dose that I can't be running that every 4 days, the base would be rising and falling too much... so I pin that every second day. Works great and keeps things nice and stable.

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My god have I been missing this warm feeling that is Dbol! Wahoo!!! Training at mid-day.. :)

Has a nice feel-good factor and a wicked pump to it ay!

It sure does!

My god have I been missing this warm feeling that is Dbol! Wahoo!!! Training at mid-day.. :)

QUote of the day! fuk I love dbol

It's one of those things that I love so much that I end up hating it! :grin:

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My god have I been missing this warm feeling that is Dbol! Wahoo!!! Training at mid-day.. :)

Has a nice feel-good factor and a wicked pump to it ay!

It sure does!

My god have I been missing this warm feeling that is Dbol! Wahoo!!! Training at mid-day.. :)

QUote of the day! fuk I love dbol

It's one of those things that I love so much that I end up hating it! :grin:

It's just such a shame it converts to estradiol so easily. I got mad as gyno from my first affair with dianna.

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Has a nice feel-good factor and a wicked pump to it ay!

It sure does!

QUote of the day! fuk I love dbol

It's one of those things that I love so much that I end up hating it! :grin:

It's just such a shame it converts to estradiol so easily. I got mad as gyno from my first affair with dianna.

James Hewitt got Prince Harry from his affair with Diana....... :pfft:

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Re the Esters, it's probably only going to make sense in my own head....

Nah, it makes sence, i think it know what your trying to do, which sounds like basically trying to fill in the slight drop in blood levels of test created by the enanthate in between shots, as well as making sure you have good test blood levels on game day.

Got a feeling that it may actually produce like 2 days at X level followed by 2 days at X + 15-20%.

Are you pinning the enathate every 4 days and the prop EOD?

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Re the Esters, it's probably only going to make sense in my own head....

Nah, it makes sence, i think it know what your trying to do, which sounds like basically trying to fill in the slight drop in blood levels of test created by the enanthate in between shots, as well as making sure you have good test blood levels on game day.

Got a feeling that it may actually produce like 2 days at X level followed by 2 days at X + 15-20%.

Are you pinning the enathate every 4 days and the prop EOD?

Pinning both EOD, just on different days. Makes it easier to pin the Enanthate as I only have to pin 2mL each time, rather than 4mL. Pinning the Enanthate EOD keeps the base stable, rather than getting that plus/minus 20% I'd get doing it Every 4 Days.

I only pin Enanthate this frequently when I go up over a gram per week. If I were cruising on Enanthate, I'd just pin it Every 5-6 days.

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Ah right, makes even more sense if your pinning the enanthate EOD.

I suppose the main thing is that it's working for you and your feeling it

I'm feeling it okay, and it seems to be working. I just need to keep my eating up now, that's the hard part... it gets tiring forcing myself to eat 6 meals every day.

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Ah right, makes even more sense if your pinning the enanthate EOD.

I suppose the main thing is that it's working for you and your feeling it

I'm feeling it okay, and it seems to be working. I just need to keep my eating up now, that's the hard part... it gets tiring forcing myself to eat 6 meals every day.

yeah i hear ya,eating all the time is tiring alright.

:nod:

good journal to read IDW.

keep on pumping man.

8)

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Ah right, makes even more sense if your pinning the enanthate EOD.

I suppose the main thing is that it's working for you and your feeling it

I'm feeling it okay, and it seems to be working. I just need to keep my eating up now, that's the hard part... it gets tiring forcing myself to eat 6 meals every day.

yeah i hear ya,eating all the time is tiring alright.

:nod:

good journal to read IDW.

keep on pumping man.

8)

Cheers bro!

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EOD

2mL Testosterone Enanthate

Also EOD - but on the other day

1mL Masteron Di-Propionate

1.5mL Trenbolone Acetate

25mg Dianabol (as a workout booster)

ED

25mg Proviron

Small alteration to the cycle: I'm dropping the Testosterone Propionate and I'm upping the Trenbolone Acetate from 1mL to 1.5mL EOD. I like Tren! Too much Test in the cycle anyhow and I don't think I'm feeling the Trestosterone Propionate over the Enantate enough.

I got a bit greedy with the Dbol today, took 37.5mg. Need to say NO! Stay at 25mg. That's enough.

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What do you mean your not feeling the test p over the test e... That doesn't make much sense lol

I'll try and explain my thinking some more. Others reading my log are probably confused as well. There's a lot in my head that I'm not putting in writing. Here's the logic:

I'm not feeling any more tested up because of the Test P. It's not giving me an extra rush. I was kinda hoping that the Test P would give me a bit of a spike in free test levels and aid my aggression in the gym, but it doesn't seem to.

The Trenbolone is doing a damn good job at that though, which is why I'm upping that and dropping the Test P. Masteron and Dbol are also helping a hell of a lot with my workout aggression.

Does that make any more sense? I learn by trial and error so I just like trying things out and seeing what works and what doesn't. At least I can say that two esters on a big cycle like this doesn't work for me now. It just increases the inject volumes and doesn't add anything beneficial to the cycle.

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I don't think I'm feeling the Trestosterone Propionate over the Enantate enough.

Ah so you aren't feeling it. Yeah i thought you would be lucky to feel any boost from it, but given you said you were...

I was kinda hoping that the Test P would give me a bit of a spike in free test levels and aid my aggression in the gym, but it doesn't seem to.

Yeah, you would be lucky to feel anything to be honest. The half life is still way to high. Suspension would have been a better test case, but even then your running what, a weekly average 1750mg of test? Test is always just the base IMO, your not really going to feel any differences 'boost' wise using multple esters. Maybe if you were running test only via a low enanthate / week and shot a decent amount of suspension on game day, then you woul feel something, but thats totally not the effect you are after im sure.

The Trenbolone is doing a damn good job at that though.

Here we have what you are actually after which is an increase in aggresion from a compund that exhibits massive androgenic potential. You could time your shots so you are at the gym on the day when plasma levels peak, but still this isn't a gym day 'booster'. I think what your actually after is to sink something with a short half life, and a high androgenic potential 2-3 hours before the gym to get a decent aggression boost right? In which case give drinking maybe 100mg of stan a couple hours before the gym a go.

The ultimate compound for giving you what you want, it would seem, would be cheque drops. Toxic as a mofo and hard to get though im sure.

I learn by trial and error so I just like trying things out and seeing what works and what doesn't. At least I can say that two esters on a big cycle like this doesn't work for me now.

This is actually a great philosophy. People can give you there opinions, tell you what they think you should be doing, and tell you your doing it wrong all day long, but at the end of the day, finding out what works best for you is the quintessential element to maximising your individual gains.

That being said test, tren, and stan is a great blend. You've got your test base, your 19-nor, your DHT derivative, weak AR binding affinity, strong AR binding affinity, good agression when you need it. Hey, if your experimenting, give it a try.

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