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i have, get my experienced friend to do it for me so i get it in the right spot.

did it ages ago myself and did some damage, ever since then have a small phobia of shooting biceps myself.

have shot tren ace in there and its mean. love it. i.m.o short ester site injections work!!!

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Anyone tried this? Is it excessively painful? Did you notice results?

I am considering using Tren Ace for it.

I would not put Tren into small muscle groups as it should go deep into muscle tissue. Prop is a good site injection compound providing its good quality. The biceps are 2 heads so make sure you go 90 deg into the inside or outside head not down the separation between them & watch out for yr main veins. They will take 2ml easily using a 1" 23 or 25g pin.

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Anyone tried this? Is it excessively painful? Did you notice results?

I am considering using Tren Ace for it.

I would not put Tren into small muscle groups as it should go deep into muscle tissue. Prop is a good site injection compound providing its good quality. The biceps are 2 heads so make sure you go 90 deg into the inside or outside head not down the separation between them & watch out for yr main veins. They will take 2ml easily using a 1" 23 or 25g pin.

went on the speration once...never again!!!

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Anyone tried this? Is it excessively painful? Did you notice results?

I am considering using Tren Ace for it.

I would not put Tren into small muscle groups as it should go deep into muscle tissue. Prop is a good site injection compound providing its good quality. The biceps are 2 heads so make sure you go 90 deg into the inside or outside head not down the separation between them & watch out for yr main veins. They will take 2ml easily using a 1" 23 or 25g pin.

went on the speration once...never again!!!

Lol sounds hellish, do tell..

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it just felt inflamed and sore, would imagine it to feel like a bicep tear filled with liquids lol. couldnt flex it at all! what makes it worse is i was playing national hockey at the time, blamed it on a bicep tear at the gym lifting too heavy lol.

basically just hurt like heck for about 2 weeks or so.was on my first cycle when it happend, almost put me off steroids for life....almost.

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Anyone tried this? Is it excessively painful? Did you notice results?

I am considering using Tren Ace for it.

I would not put Tren into small muscle groups as it should go deep into muscle tissue. Prop is a good site injection compound providing its good quality. The biceps are 2 heads so make sure you go 90 deg into the inside or outside head not down the separation between them & watch out for yr main veins. They will take 2ml easily using a 1" 23 or 25g pin.

Thanks MNZ. Do you think site pinning is even worth it though? I'd be interested to hear your view on whether or not it is any more effective than simply pinning the delts.

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Pin anywhere you have enough muscle to hold the depot. Depth is not of concern. As long as the depot is within the muscle and doesn't bulge out you're good to go.

I use 26g half inch for injects up to 1.5mL. You can inject pretty much anywhere using these.

Spread the injects around your body as much as possible to limit damage from scarring. Inject in the same place too much at your peril!

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Use 1 inch and 1.5 inch for bigger muscle groups. Upto 3ml with oil shots and upto 5ml with water based shots.

You can use half inch on any muscle group (provided you're lean enough!) and you can mix it up with 1 and 1.5 inch if applicable... you can layer your injects that way to keep from hitting the same depots. I do this with my lats and glutes.

Half inch is for low volume injects. So yes, if your injecting larger volumes then sure use a longer pin.

It's all pretty common sense... too bad common sense isn't very common these days.

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Pin anywhere you have enough muscle to hold the depot. Depth is not of concern. As long as the depot is within the muscle and doesn't bulge out you're good to go.

I use 26g half inch for injects up to 1.5mL. You can inject pretty much anywhere using these.

Spread the injects around your body as much as possible to limit damage from scarring. Inject in the same place too much at your peril!

Depth is not of concern? why not use 1/4 inch pins then?

You definitly want spread injects but you will run into problems going that shallow, your glutes for example you could end up going into fat not muscle. Your also not getting deep enough into the muscle belly and will end up with more lumpy looking muscles if thew scar tissue is too close to the surface.

Use common sense. Quarter inch is pushing it, you'd need to use tiny volumes.

Half inch works well as I've said with 1-1.5mL.

Bullshit about not getting deep enough into the muscle belly with half inch.

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Pin anywhere you have enough muscle to hold the depot. Depth is not of concern. As long as the depot is within the muscle and doesn't bulge out you're good to go.

I use 26g half inch for injects up to 1.5mL. You can inject pretty much anywhere using these.

Spread the injects around your body as much as possible to limit damage from scarring. Inject in the same place too much at your peril!

Depth is not of concern? why not use 1/4 inch pins then?

You definitly want spread injects but you will run into problems going that shallow, your glutes for example you could end up going into fat not muscle. Your also not getting deep enough into the muscle belly and will end up with more lumpy looking muscles if thew scar tissue is too close to the surface.

Use common sense. Quarter inch is pushing it, you'd need to use tiny volumes.

Half inch works well as I've said with 1-1.5mL.

Bullshit about not getting deep enough into the muscle belly with half inch.

My 2 cents, use smaller gauge/shorter pins in smaller muscles and longer in larger ones.

I predominantly pin my delts, move the sites every time and only put a ml in one spot at a time so it disapates quickly. I do this to avoid scar tissue build up and to avoid accumulating oil build up in any one area. Nothing looks worse to me than guys who who poin all their shit in one spot all the time and then try and kid people it's their side delt head or ridiculous lumpy biceps or triceps.

I did use to pin my bis and tris in days gone by with prop or test suspension in order to stratch the fascia and it works well. I just found that I couldn't train those muscles as hard because of the pain. I would do it offseason when I hardly trained arms anyway. I notice with a lot of guys my age who did pin their arms a lot that even when they stop the gear and come down to a more normal size all those lumps and bumps of scare tissue are very evident. One of the reasons I stopped pinning arms and started shifting sites and stuff all the time.

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Depth is not of concern? why not use 1/4 inch pins then?

You definitly want spread injects but you will run into problems going that shallow, your glutes for example you could end up going into fat not muscle. Your also not getting deep enough into the muscle belly and will end up with more lumpy looking muscles if thew scar tissue is too close to the surface.

Use common sense. Quarter inch is pushing it, you'd need to use tiny volumes.

Half inch works well as I've said with 1-1.5mL.

Bullshit about not getting deep enough into the muscle belly with half inch.

My 2 cents, use smaller gauge/shorter pins in smaller muscles and longer in larger ones.

I predominantly pin my delts, move the sites every time and only put a ml in one spot at a time so it disapates quickly. I do this to avoid scar tissue build up and to avoid accumulating oil build up in any one area. Nothing looks worse to me than guys who who poin all their shit in one spot all the time and then try and kid people it's their side delt head or ridiculous lumpy biceps or triceps.

I did use to pin my bis and tris in days gone by with prop or test suspension in order to stratch the fascia and it works well. I just found that I couldn't train those muscles as hard because of the pain. I would do it offseason when I hardly trained arms anyway. I notice with a lot of guys my age who did pin their arms a lot that even when they stop the gear and come down to a more normal size all those lumps and bumps of scare tissue are very evident. One of the reasons I stopped pinning arms and started shifting sites and stuff all the time.

deep tissue massages to help relieve scar tissue? thoughts?

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Use common sense. Quarter inch is pushing it, you'd need to use tiny volumes.

Half inch works well as I've said with 1-1.5mL.

Bullshit about not getting deep enough into the muscle belly with half inch.

My 2 cents, use smaller gauge/shorter pins in smaller muscles and longer in larger ones.

I predominantly pin my delts, move the sites every time and only put a ml in one spot at a time so it disapates quickly. I do this to avoid scar tissue build up and to avoid accumulating oil build up in any one area. Nothing looks worse to me than guys who who poin all their shit in one spot all the time and then try and kid people it's their side delt head or ridiculous lumpy biceps or triceps.

I did use to pin my bis and tris in days gone by with prop or test suspension in order to stratch the fascia and it works well. I just found that I couldn't train those muscles as hard because of the pain. I would do it offseason when I hardly trained arms anyway. I notice with a lot of guys my age who did pin their arms a lot that even when they stop the gear and come down to a more normal size all those lumps and bumps of scare tissue are very evident. One of the reasons I stopped pinning arms and started shifting sites and stuff all the time.

deep tissue massages to help relieve scar tissue? thoughts?

Not as much as you'd think... unless you are doing it from the beginning.

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i believe in site growth. of course its very little, but it does occur! much like SEO, the basic principal is, inflammation of the muscle; this causes it to swell and receive greater blood flow. the increase in blood flow causes the damaged muscle to receive and hold more nutrients.

i hate pinning biceps; they always ball up. triceps arent so bad, but im not going to pin 500mg/ml test - f*ck that.

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Depth is not of concern? why not use 1/4 inch pins then?

You definitly want spread injects but you will run into problems going that shallow, your glutes for example you could end up going into fat not muscle. Your also not getting deep enough into the muscle belly and will end up with more lumpy looking muscles if thew scar tissue is too close to the surface.

Use common sense. Quarter inch is pushing it, you'd need to use tiny volumes.

Half inch works well as I've said with 1-1.5mL.

Bullshit about not getting deep enough into the muscle belly with half inch.

How big are your arms?

How long you been site injecting?

Scar tissue builds up over time, you cant totally avoid it. The closer to the surface the scars the more likely you will get lumps being visible.

Why would you want to inject less than 3ml, if your trying to cause site enchancement? Simple use the mgs you want to inject that day and fill the rest of the barrel with Sterile GSO.

I give up! I'm not talking about site enhancement... pinning in general. A bit off topic considering the thread's topic. Sorry if that got you a bit confused?

I don't site inject for enhancement. Especially not using GSO. It dissipates too quickly and as such is a waste of time for this purpose (IMO). Have you heard of hyaluronic acid?

Got proof of running into problems by going that shallow? I don't think so... definitely not with 1-1.5mL injects as I'm talking about. I make all my gear from powder and my shit doesn't sting and inflame like some of the stuff you're probably used to. I probably wouldn't inject that stuff shallow either.

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I read a study regarding nandrolone that showed blood concentrations where the highest when it was administered in the glutes...no I'm not finding it but interdasting...

Yeh same here, Higher bioavailability after injecting into glutes rather than delts, something to do with differences in blood flow, tissue composition & localized fat content....

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