meal times

[mr yoyo]

Ok, so i am pretty new to actually dieting, up and till now it was weights & then just as much junk etc and not really caring.

Im curious how people fit in there eating? especialy on weekends, most "experts" seem to say eat every 3 hours, and eat 6 meals, but I havent got 18 hours a day to work in with my "expert" recomended 8 hours sleep.

So how do you make it work??

[Pseudonym]

7am - breakfast

10am - morning tea

1pm - lunch

3pm - afternoon tea

6pm - dinner

9pm - supper

See? Easy! And that still leaves room for a post-workout meal somewhere. :grin:

[tallulahangie]

Eating is the easy part... Finding time to train is proving difficult... :S

[MasterTel]

Your calculation of 6 x 3 = 18 hours should have been 5 x 3 hours = 15 hours to have 6 meals with a 3 hour gap between each.

Why not reduce the gap to perhaps 2.5 hours so the total time from meal 1 to meal 6 is 5 x 2.5 = 12.5 hours, so there is plenty of time to fit in 8 hours of sleep as well!

Meal preparation can be a pain timewise, so I tend to keep plenty of tinned veges (e.g. beans, asparagus), fish (tuna, salmon) and Uncle Ben's rice sachets (several flavours and just 2 minutes in the microwave for 1-2 meals) handy. You just need a can opener and a microwave for a quick and reasonably cheap meal.

[poos_n_wees]

Eating is the easy part... Finding time to train is proving difficult... :S

x2

[Pseudonym]

Really? I'm quite the opposite. Training only happens once a day, so I find it's easy to fit in - you just do it. But a good diet requires you to be disciplined six or more times a day, and that's where I struggle (although I'm being a good boy at present :wink: )

[deegee]

I find eating regularly the hard part, I can always find time to get down to the gym.

[musclearmor]

Yep, training is the easy part, once a day Monday through Friday. Its the eating part, particualrly in the evening thats the worry. I rely on meal replacments for 3 of my 6 meals per day. Sometimes even mixing up a Myoplex Meal replacment shake is inconvienient at times. Fortunately we (EAS), have only weeks ago released Myoplex in a 500ml size ready to drink. Thats about all I use for meal repalcements lately- 43g protein, 20g carbs (4g is fibre), 6g fat (all unsaturated), 25 vitamins and mineral - all for $6.

Nutrition bars are also useful but dont make a habit of eating more than 1, maybe 2 a day. Regardless of brand, meal replacment powders such as Myoplex are nutritionally superior to bars.

[Phantomb]

Regardless of brand, meal replacment powders such as Myoplex are nutritionally superior to bars.

So race down to your nearest friendly Myoplex supplier.

Go!

Go now!

[2guns]

imo i like the balance mass gainer.

i think cheaper then myoplex, tastes better, and maybe a better profile, has growth factors etc. about 500 calories per serve

anyone else got comments on the balance mass gainer?

[2guns]

a few people trying to sell EAS supplements here aye.... lol

[Flex]

Comments on Balance mass gainer:

Cheap, nasty, fat gainer stuff...

Nah not as bad as some, has some reasonable ingredients in it but then it'sn ruined by some cheap nasty stuff - soy protein, sodium caseinate, milk protein, fructose. I'd say they took a stab at copying something good made by someone else and missed the mark a bit.

Lots of simple sugars from dextrose and glucose syrup, plus fructose so only really any good post training. Use too much of it and your mates will be calling you Mr Blobby. For some reason they've added vegetable oil powder to it, along with a token amount of glutamine and colostrum. There's lots, lots better stuff on the market, but if you want something cheap then you could do worse.

Think.....Musashi.

[2guns]

ah k thanks shows how much i know... haha.

mass gainers can get a bit expensive if u take them regualry.

another one i have taken was megamilk by dymatize.

got abit expensive tho after a few tubs of it.

think ill just stick to the elite protein powder

[Varven]

Ive used massgainers and gained mass ! HOWEVER.. equal amounts of muscle and fat mass lol.. what puts me off is the high amount of sugars they all have.. seriously when sitting at my desk , give me one good reason to consume 50g of sugars and 30g of proteins in one mix.. id rather 30g of protein and 2 large potatoes or brown rice.

[Marcus]

Agreed Varven. I see merits if you are a real hardgainer, but nothing beats real food.

[Pseudonym]

:stupid:

[Oros]

Since Oct/Nov 2005 I've been eating every 2.5 hours.

Starting at 6:30am, but saying that, I am fortunate that my employer has never had any comments to make on me eating outside of generally accepted meal/break times.

From Monday to Friday I have no problems what so ever on following my diet plan, it's the weekends that are the killer for me.

Either I'm away from home, (and all edible temptations) out fishing (and generally not eating at all) for an entire day then I get home and stuff myself stupid, or else I'm stuck at home, bored stupid and need to be restrained from eating everything I can lay my hands on.

Flex,.......whats your beef with Musashi protein? At present I'm having 5 or 6 servings of Musashi WPC per day, only bought it (12x1.9kg buckets) because it happened to work out cheaper per 30g serving than the Balance product I was previously using.

[Dyceast]

Hah Im exactly like you. ^^^^^

My job is also pretty easy on me eating every 2-3 hours or so. And its always the weekend that buggers me up to. I end up waking up a lil later I usually have breakfast right, but after that time just shoots by and I usually forget about the 2-3 hours. Next time Im with food its like 4-5 horus later :shifty:

But ah well, i dont mind too much. As long as I stopped eating chocolates and chips

[mr yoyo]

so are a majority of people eating 2.5 - 3 hours apart??

At the moment I tend to try and cram everything in before 7pm. workout time is between 5-6.30ish most days.

Should I be spacing it out and having the post workout meal, and then the last protein shake at 9ish before sleep??

[MasterTel]

I reckon having a protein shake at 9pm or just before bed is a good idea - especially as it will be perhaps 10 hours before your next meal (unless you are into getting up in the middle of the night for a snack!).

Another thing I do if I find my meals a bit filling to have in one go is to split it in two - have 1/2 at the regular time then the rest of it an hour or so later. This means you digest the meal better so you don't feel bloated, plus it saves waiting 2-3 hours to eat again (especially when dieting for a comp!)

[waldo]

I reckon having a protein shake at 9pm or just before bed is a good idea - especially as it will be perhaps 10 hours before your next meal (unless you are into getting up in the middle of the night for a snack!).

Seeing as other Reps are doing this, mastertel you should have a look at MAX'S Lean Nite Time, one of the few true night time formulas on the market. PM if you need any details, although Phily Nuku could probably sort you out. That and he'll sort you out a new pair of shoulders. Mine seem to have grown since Thursday!

[Flex]

Flex,.......whats your beef with Musashi protein? At present I'm having 5 or 6 servings of Musashi WPC per day, only bought it (12x1.9kg buckets) because it happened to work out cheaper per 30g serving than the Balance product I was previously using.

This post was mainly about their mass gainers, which tend to be at the lower end of the spectrum as far as the quality of the ingredients. A couple of their mass gainers list "Whey Protein" as an ingredient. However what type of whey protein is completely unknown as it is just listed as whey protein. Considering the difference in quality and purity of a whey protein vs a whey protein concentrate or isolate I couldn't recommend a product that uses whey protein as being of very high quality.

They claim on their labels that their protein formulas use Enhanced Filtration Process which seems to be unique to them and entails some sort of filtration of various types of protein, enhanced by free form amino acids.

Another thing that worries me about Musashi protein products in general is that their nutrition profiles seem a bit out of whack compared to other protein powders. The nut profile of the WPC (again just listed as a whey protein concentrate with no idea as to if it is micro or ultra filtered) shows 24.1g protein per 30g serve - that's 80.3% protein. This seems unusually high to me for a WPC considering that have also added Inulin, Milk Solids (?), Xanthan Gum and Guar Gum, Flavour and sucralose. Especially since they state that "Small levels of carbohydrates have also been added to replenish levels following training". In the form of what? I'm guessing they mean the inulin which is actually a soluble plant fibre that has no effect on blood sugar, and even if they had added enough of it to attempt to restore glycogen levels, at high doses it causes gas and bloating. And how can it have carbs added when it apparently only contains 1.1g of carbs including 0.1g sugars per serve. I can't see how it can only have 1.1g carbs per serve when it has both Xanthan gum and Guar gum added as thickeners, which are plant fibres/carbohydrates, plus then you've got the Inulin and the flavouring, plus the carbs present in the whey. It just doesn't add up to me.

[2guns]

if u work a standard 8 hour shift. u shouldnt have trouble with finding time to eat as u get to 15 min smokos and 30 mins lunch. no need for kind bosses lol

[poos_n_wees]

a few people trying to sell EAS supplements here aye.... lol

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[2guns]

exactly they try to advertise the product in a sneaky way but after a couple of posts it becomes pretty ovious who they r.