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who is the biggest natural bber you know of? (personally)


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umm it depends, in person Mateo ...but overall? Jeff Willet?

You know Jeff Willet ? Lol

yeah bro me and him are facebook buddies! (srs) but to be honest that's the first name that pops to my head when i hear natural bber....

Mateo on the other hand i know in person from my old gym

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umm it depends, in person Mateo ...but overall? Jeff Willet?

You know Jeff Willet ? Lol

yeah bro me and him are facebook buddies! (srs) but to be honest that's the first name that pops to my head when i hear natural bber....

Mateo on the other hand i know in person from my old gym

Wha you think of max ot

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I did Max-OT for about 6 months of this year - read the programme and followed it to the a t. I found i got WAY stronger than I ever have. Did heavier bench press, squats, deads, shoulders presses etc. I changed the routine every 8 weeks but there came a point where I noticed I just didn't seem to be getting anymore gains. Biceps actually got a bit smaller, shoulders couldn't seem to bump through. The coolest thign about it was I could be in and out of the gym in under an hour and still had energy in tank. The biggest thing I've taken from it is you don't have to do high reps to grow muscle, but I definitely notice better gains from more sets (some of the max OT stuff is like one set of an exercise). Just my amateur as opinion though.

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stats? even if you've got pics? be keen to see what so called 'natural bbers' can achieve. pref people you know yourself as its to hard to say if blah blah blah from texas is natural....

Daniel Hibbs (I don't know him personally). Reported to be natural- organic even.

I don't have his stats but I think he is around 70 kg on stage. Maybe a bit lighter when he is in really good shape. :)

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Yeah no disrespect to Dan he has all the aesthetics ect but I eat meals bigger than him lol jokes. Like others have said it's impossible to say who really is natural, but I recently helped out a bro start his first cycle and he was bigger than all my mates that have been juicing for ages so it's interesting to see what is possible.

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Yeh the steroid frauders are the scum of the earth in a bodybuilding context

There are a lot of people out there who use and dont admit it for a lot of reasons. Mostly social stigma I would imagine, if the media didnt hype the shit out of how evil it was and therefore everyone who doesnt have a clue believe it then I would think more guys would admit use. It fuks me off when people with no clue whatsoever write guys gains off just because they juice and ignore all their hard work. i.e. "hes on gear so thats why he looks like that". Get the fuk out of here.

Also admitting an illegal activity isnt always something guys want to openly do. Makes a lot of sense really.

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Yeh the steroid frauders are the scum of the earth in a bodybuilding context

There are a lot of people out there who use and dont admit it for a lot of reasons. Mostly social stigma I would imagine, if the media didnt hype the shit out of how evil it was and therefore everyone who doesnt have a clue believe it then I would think more guys would admit use. It fuks me off when people with no clue whatsoever write guys gains off just because they juice and ignore all their hard work. i.e. "hes on gear so thats why he looks like that". Get the fuk out of here.

Also admitting an illegal activity isnt always something guys want to openly do. Makes a lot of sense really.

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Theres a big difference between simply not admitting it and the guys who openly come out and proclaim that they are natural when they are not.

The forementioned aren't doing so because of social stigma or whatever, but because they like the extra kudos and respect they get from frauding.

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Theres a big difference between simply not admitting it and the guys who openly come out and proclaim that they are natural when they are not.

The forementioned aren't doing so because of social stigma or whatever, but because they like the extra kudos and respect they get from frauding.

Thats a big assumption to make for why they dont admit use. If a mass monster wants to claim natural to clueless idiots to get kudos thats more to do with self esteem issues imo. After all whats so great about getting praise for something which isnt true?

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i was really fucked the other weekend out in the club and had dudes straight up asking me, i just couldn't be fucked anymore so just told them the truth lol

when people ask me "what are you taking?" i just reply with the same thing :pfft:

brah.... they meaning what appetite suppresents you taking

U MAD?

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i was really fucked the other weekend out in the club and had dudes straight up asking me, i just couldn't be fucked anymore so just told them the truth lol

when people ask me "what are you taking?" i just reply with the same thing :pfft:

brah.... they meaning what appetite suppresents you taking

U MAD?

niggah please, no suppressant can f*ck with my appetite 8)

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Some of the samoan lads coming over here are pretty big. I reckon those fellas have better genetics then any other nationality on average.

:nod: A friend of mine is like this. Bloody huge, and lean as. Swears he's natural, and I believe him - there's something about his physique that reminds me of the myostatin deficiency. I'd love to get him genetically tested!

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