First cycle

[narcosis73]

Cheers guys. When you say one cup of rice, one cup of oats ect. are you meaning cooked or uncooked? Because I cooked a cup of brown rice and it filled a whole ice cream container once cooked and it took me aggggesss to eat it! I'm guessing you mean cooked.....

Oh, and the smallest needle I could find is a 27, i'm planning on pinning the glutes....OK?

You will be there all day with a 27 :shock:

A 23 is sweet for me in quads, the 25's were a pain in the ass :pfft: as it took way longer to pin.

I also get cramp doing glutes...

Could be he's planning on drawing with the 25's and pinning with the 23's, I have heard this is common practice, correct me if I'm wrong please.

[tomsammce]

fake gear bro! not genuine... looks like shit, wouldnt touch it with a unwashed scrotum.

why would someone try to copy a pharmaceutical brand? obviously their gear is shit so they need that kind of name to give it some credit and works a treat for newbs just like you.

i take back my advice about 1ml of each per week now that i have seen this. use 4 ml a week and hope for the best.

[jimjim83]

fake gear bro! not genuine... looks like shit, wouldnt touch it with a unwashed scrotum.

why would someone try to copy a pharmaceutical brand? obviously their gear is shit so they need that kind of name to give it some credit and works a treat for newbs just like you.

i take back my advice about 1ml of each per week now that i have seen this. use 4 ml a week and hope for the best.

And get some antibiotics just incase

[severe]

Cheers guys. When you say one cup of rice, one cup of oats ect. are you meaning cooked or uncooked? Because I cooked a cup of brown rice and it filled a whole ice cream container once cooked and it took me aggggesss to eat it! I'm guessing you mean cooked.....

Oh, and the smallest needle I could find is a 27, i'm planning on pinning the glutes....OK?

You will be there all day with a 27 :shock:

A 23 is sweet for me in quads, the 25's were a pain in the ass :pfft: as it took way longer to pin.

I also get cramp doing glutes...

Could be he's planning on drawing with the 25's and pinning with the 23's, I have heard this is common practice, correct me if I'm wrong please.

The key here is that the bigger the number, the smaller the hole.

Drawing with a 25 would be a time waster. Bloody small diameter to draw through. I have pinned with them, and that took more than twice as long to push it through.

I draw easily with the 21, and pin easily with the 23. I found no difference in the site aggrevation between the 25g and 23g, so I go for the tool that lets me do it quicker.

Everyone has preferences, and my sizing wont be others, but I do know that what I use is common.

[narcosis73]

You will be there all day with a 27 :shock:

A 23 is sweet for me in quads, the 25's were a pain in the ass :pfft: as it took way longer to pin.

I also get cramp doing glutes...

Could be he's planning on drawing with the 25's and pinning with the 23's, I have heard this is common practice, correct me if I'm wrong please.

The key here is that the bigger the number, the smaller the hole.

Drawing with a 25 would be a time waster. Bloody small diameter to draw through. I have pinned with them, and that took more than twice as long to push it through.

I draw easily with the 21, and pin easily with the 23. I found no difference in the site aggrevation between the 25g and 23g, so I go for the tool that lets me do it quicker.

Everyone has preferences, and my sizing wont be others, but I do know that what I use is common.

cheers mate.

[ape]

I spoke to my bro about the gear being UG and potentially shit. He uses the same stuff and had great results. So, I decided to go ahead. I got some 25g needles this morning and pinned about two hours ago. I pinned in my quad and getting over the shits about sticking a needle in myself was a mind f*ck. It didn't hurt, just hard to do mentally. Anyway, i'm having 1ml of sus and 1ml of test once a week for 10 weeks. Is it possible to do them together as I pinned twice, once with the test and once with the sus. Not sure if you can mix them or what the deal is.

When do the gym shortly after and it's prob a mental thing but it felt like the best workout ever. Not heavy as weight, but easier.....

Let the cycle begin!

[thatwaslight]

I spoke to my bro about the gear being UG and potentially shit. He uses the same stuff and had great results. So, I decided to go ahead. I got some 25g needles this morning and pinned about two hours ago. I pinned in my quad and getting over the shits about sticking a needle in myself was a mind f*ck. It didn't hurt, just hard to do mentally. Anyway, i'm having 1ml of sus and 1ml of test once a week for 10 weeks. Is it possible to do them together as I pinned twice, once with the test and once with the sus. Not sure if you can mix them or what the deal is.

When do the gym shortly after and it's prob a mental thing but it felt like the best workout ever. Not heavy as weight, but easier.....

Let the cycle begin!

can mix them no problem

[ape]

I spoke to my bro about the gear being UG and potentially shit. He uses the same stuff and had great results. So, I decided to go ahead. I got some 25g needles this morning and pinned about two hours ago. I pinned in my quad and getting over the shits about sticking a needle in myself was a mind f*ck. It didn't hurt, just hard to do mentally. Anyway, i'm having 1ml of sus and 1ml of test once a week for 10 weeks. Is it possible to do them together as I pinned twice, once with the test and once with the sus. Not sure if you can mix them or what the deal is.

When do the gym shortly after and it's prob a mental thing but it felt like the best workout ever. Not heavy as weight, but easier.....

Let the cycle begin!

can mix them no problem

How? From what I have read and seen you are supposed to draw into the syringe the amount you want to inject, say 1ml. Then inject the air into the vial and then draw out. If I do that to one vial I couldn't do it to the next if you get what i'm saying. Prob a greenhorn question...

[thatwaslight]

draw up your test first, then pull the syringe back to two ml mark so there will be a ml of air + ml or test in barrel then squirt in 1ml air and draw out deca

[ape]

draw up your test first, then pull the syringe back to two ml mark so there will be a ml of air + ml or test in barrel then squirt in 1ml air and draw out deca

Cheers, i'll give it a go next Saturday. I suppose I better change my profile from natural now.... :grin:

[Daz69]

I spoke to my bro about the gear being UG and potentially shit. He uses the same stuff and had great results. So, I decided to go ahead. I got some 25g needles this morning and pinned about two hours ago. I pinned in my quad and getting over the shits about sticking a needle in myself was a mind f*ck. It didn't hurt, just hard to do mentally. Anyway, i'm having 1ml of sus and 1ml of deca once a week for 10 weeks. Is it possible to do them together as I pinned twice, once with the test and once with the sus. Not sure if you can mix them or what the deal is.

When do the gym shortly after and it's prob a mental thing but it felt like the best workout ever. Not heavy as weight, but easier.....

Let the cycle begin!

No prob mixing in the same vial, pinning up to 2ml in quads/glutes is acceptable... everywhere else 1ml.................

[Daz69]

draw up your test first, then pull the syringe back to two ml mark so there will be a ml of air + ml or test in barrel then squirt in 1ml air and draw out deca

Cheers, i'll give it a go next Saturday. I suppose I better change my profile from natural now.... :grin:

But we're all natural...................... :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[thatwaslight]

I spoke to my bro about the gear being UG and potentially shit. He uses the same stuff and had great results. So, I decided to go ahead. I got some 25g needles this morning and pinned about two hours ago. I pinned in my quad and getting over the shits about sticking a needle in myself was a mind f*ck. It didn't hurt, just hard to do mentally. Anyway, i'm having 1ml of sus and 1ml of deca once a week for 10 weeks. Is it possible to do them together as I pinned twice, once with the test and once with the sus. Not sure if you can mix them or what the deal is.

When do the gym shortly after and it's prob a mental thing but it felt like the best workout ever. Not heavy as weight, but easier.....

Let the cycle begin!

No prob mixing in the same vial, pinning up to 2ml in quads/glutes is acceptable... everywhere else 1ml.................

Quads and glutes good for 3ml easy, my delts 3 and tris take 2 no problems. The recommendations I have read are 1.5 for tri & bi 2 for delt and 3 for quad glute. Have heard of 10ml im injections! :shock:

[Daz69]

No prob mixing in the same vial, pinning up to 2ml in quads/glutes is acceptable... everywhere else 1ml.................

Quads and glutes good for 3ml easy, my delts 3 and tris take 2 no problems. The recommendations I have read are 1.5 for tri & bi 2 for delt and 3 for quad glute. Have heard of 10ml im injections! :shock:

A bit on the top side considering its UG gear & the % of benzyl A + B might not be as exact as pharma grade ... TWL

Remember your a big c*nt, and quoting Tom: "he's only a stick"..!! :grin:

If your a newbie & on the small side I wouldn't pin over 2ml in glutes/quads & keep to 1ml elsewhere.... just my 2c...................... :pfft:

[ape]

Cheers for the advice. I woke up this morning and my quad is sore :oops: not really painful, just feels slightly bruised maybe and a little bit of a limp.... is that conidered normal? Mind you it was my first pin.

[Daz69]

Cheers for the advice. I woke up this morning and my quad is sore :oops: not really painful, just feels slightly bruised maybe and a little bit of a limp.... is that considered normal? Mind you it was my first pin.

Occasionally it may feel like a bruise would.... If you're lucky..!!

If you're very unlucky... And the mix of benzyl A or B is too high, the area of injection could swell, go red, hot, be very painful, you may get flu like symptoms, severe headache & a temperature this may last for up to 5 days...

It sounds (& feels bad) but it will go....

Again just one of the risks............ We've all been there....!!!

[ape]

Does test or sus keep you up? I felt like I didn't get any sleep last night.

[Daz69]

Does test or sus keep you up? I felt like I didn't get any sleep last night.

Sustanon is Test...??

A bit early days to be losing sleep, maybe its just the anticipation of things to come..... :pfft:

Half way through a course I do struggle to sleep, but its dependent on whether someone has pissed me off.... :grin:

Some people report night sweats, but I think its gear type/dose dependent

[ape]

Oops, I meant sust or deca.

Well good news on my quad, its pretty much good now. Just a very mild discomfort. I had a shoulder work out tonight and it went well. Shoulders are prob my weak spot and I didn't run out of energy like I normally would. So went hard for about 80 minutes.

[ape]

So first week over of my 10 week cycle. At the start of the week I did feel stronger, but I put that down to hype. Tried 2ml into the other quad today instead of two 1ml pins. Definitely felt like I was putting more shit into my quad and could feel it in there. Went straight into the gym for a back workout. Quads not as sore as last week but I think that will change when I wake up :shifty:

[lazyeye]

i was wary of using a large gauge needle to draw after i saw it was chopping up the rubber top quite badly and putting little flecks of rubber in the vial. (only one or two admittedly) i can imagine it would be bad news to inject a little bit of rubber deep into your shoulder.

just heating the vial in warm water before hand made it easy to draw with a 25

[thatwaslight]

i was wary of using a large gauge needle to draw after i saw it was chopping up the rubber top quite badly and putting little flecks of rubber in the vial. (only one or two admittedly) i can imagine it would be bad news to inject a little bit of rubber deep into your shoulder.

just heating the vial in warm water before hand made it easy to draw with a 25

drawing with a 25 LOL

[lazyeye]

never took too long, only 30sec or so....i have the time

(perhaps it was less viscous stuff than usual, dunno)

[TTTYYY]

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[ape]

Into the third week of my cycle and all going good. Is there anything I can do to avoid the potential side effect of growing a pair of tit's? On a good note I have gone from 84kgs to 88kgs in these three weeks. I need to do a body fat test to see if it's good weight tho. In saying that I did rip the side of my shorts when I bent down so I think i'm getting bigger :grin: