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JOSEF RAKICH

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samoan_muscle Veteran member

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Dinner last night = Mac Attack with a Quarter Pounder on the side.

Why? Because JR said....

GJDM. :clap:

As long as it fits into your daily macros.

Daily Macros? WTF is that? :shock:

I thought you just said I could eat McDonalds all day, everyday? :shock:

Holy shit! What am going to do now? I just at BK for lunch!!!

Now I feel very :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:

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meal timing is important too - would you go and do a heavy workout on an empty stomach?? no. is it important to have a shake or meal directly after weights? yes. if you dissagree then your a dumb c*nt.

Meal timing is not all important, hitting your total amount of the macronutrients by the end of the day is. Belive it or not alot of people these days train in a fasted state and claim to have better performance than in a feed state. (Personally not myself, but im just saying)

No its not important to have a meal after the weights, if you have that meal at another time of the day it wont make any difference what so ever on improving body composition, just because you have that meal after the weights you think your going to gain more msucle?? Lol.

Dude you seriously need to stop being so tunnel vision, look at the over all bigger picture on how the body works. The body works on a 24,48,72,weekly basis overall NET balance.

If you actually think that if you dont have a meal after the weights but consume that meal at another time of the day it will have a different effect on body composition, if you actually belive this then your the dumb c*nt.

Im not saying not to have a meal post-workout (i still have my protein and oats) all im saying is if you have this meal at another time of the day it wont make a difference. Cals in VS cald out.

according to this theory, is there a limit?? what i mean is if you could, would you be able to have only 1 meal during the entire day IIFYDM?? i know of people personally who eat only twice a day with 1000cals + in each of the meals (I dont think this includes pre/post workout)

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so the pople arguing with josef can u post sum pics? hahaha

strong phaggotry reviving old thread. hahaha

not hating on him, but whie josef has a well proportioned low bodyfat physique he is small as f*ck.

yes i think you will have success with IIFYM simply because you are limiting energy intake/making sure to have enough protein, which is really not a revolutionary idea...

no i dont think IIFYM is ideal, especially if you take it to extremes.

pic 95kg.

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pretty sure heaps of the other guys who posted in the thread are bigger/have better physiques

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so the pople arguing with josef can u post sum pics? hahaha

strong phaggotry reviving old thread. hahaha

not hating on him, but whie josef has a well proportioned low bodyfat physique he is small as f*ck.

yes i think you will have success with IIFYM simply because you are limiting energy intake/making sure to have enough protein, which is really not a revolutionary idea...

no i dont think IIFYM is ideal, especially if you take it to extremes.

pic 95kg.

fukkr.jpg

pretty sure heaps of the other guys who posted in the thread are bigger/have better physiques

how tall are you? weight without a height doesn't mean much really.

Looking pretty ripped, good size for a natty. but I'm not sure you'd be much heavier than Mr Rackich if you were to diet down to his level of bodyfat.

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184cm. and yeah ive never been that low bodyfat but i would have thought id have maybe 10kg on him considering he's less than 80kg at low bf. but dont see how thats really relevant to the whole IIFYM argument

yea not really relevant.. just wanted some perspective on that weight really. keep up the good work.

IIFYM isn't a bad concept in my opinion... if you can work out what macros you need for your goals can't really go wrong with it.

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yeah i agree that you will have success with it in the same way you would have success counting calories and making sure youre getting adequate protein. i just dont think meal timing and carb type would be irrelevant

It's somewhat irrelevant at certain times of the day. Take Glycogen for example. There's approximately 250-300g stored in your body. When you do a long hard session in the gym you can become very glycogen depleted. When in this state the higher glycemic index carbs are better. Eat some McD's, Ice Cream, Cookies... whatever CHO source is okay. In this state the carbohydrates will be preferentially stored as Glycogen by the body, once the stores are back up spillover will be stored as fat.

At other times of the day if you eat high GI carbs you'll find it's not a good time to do so. Say if you work a sedentary job sitting in-front of a computer. Eat cookies and ice-cream then and you'll raise your blood sugar levels too much and insulin will have to come into play to regulate - i.e. you'll store this excess energy as fat.

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Mcdonalds, ice cream, cookies etc are a poor choice for post workout nutrition. Why would you want that much fat in a pwo meal or carb?

Portion control is the key.

When blood sugar is low, fatty acids are broken down via the biochemical process of beta-oxidation into acetyl units which can then be used to produce energy by oxidative phosphorylation or even converted to glucose via gluconegenisis. This glucose can then undergo glycogenesis to form glycogen.

I agree you need to be careful that you don't eat too much fat in your pwo meal. Fat (9Kcal/g) provides a lot of energy compared to carbs (4Kcal/g).

You can eat whatever you want just usually not so much of it. Hey if you're bulking hard and your IIFYM targets are real high then you've got a good excuse to pig out. :grin:

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I was from about October to November. It was iifym... So all calories were counted. But there was no fast food or bread in it anyway so it was really just like how I would have done it myself.

I don't follow it anymore. I eat 3 bad meals a week now And I don't Clint my calories anymore, I don't see the point for what I'm doing... I have a general idea of what is what and what adds up to what. So I just do that as I don't need to be exact.

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I remember years ago reading Mike Mentzers diet journal and as long as he was hitting the right daily calorie total he literally did not care where those cals from.

It was things like donuts and chips etc etc etc

Having tried it that way and then having done it in a more traditional bodybuilding sense with clean foods I have to say I just feel better eating cleaner but both will get you lean. Hell go keto and diet on loads of cals eating nothing but bacon and cheese.

There are lots of ways to skin a cat and the numbers game works better than most.

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I remember years ago reading Mike Mentzers diet journal and as long as he was hitting the right daily calorie total he literally did not care where those cals from.

It was things like donuts and chips etc etc etc

Having tried it that way and then having done it in a more traditional bodybuilding sense with clean foods I have to say I just feel better eating cleaner but both will get you lean. Hell go keto and diet on loads of cals eating nothing but bacon and cheese.

There are lots of ways to skin a cat and the numbers game works better than most.

Well put.

Mike was well known for being a bit of a meth head... those guys can cut on pretty much anything really tho. :pfft:

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Who even cares... Flabs for the win...

Mass will always win over being cut anyday. So just go and eat some food you skinny c*nts.

i know why you are saying this, i saw your facebook pic. similar to android's avi pic. very unattractive. not mirin. yes mad.

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Who even cares... Flabs for the win...

Mass will always win over being cut anyday. So just go and eat some food you skinny c*nts.

i know why you are saying this, i saw your facebook pic. similar to android's avi pic. very unattractive. not mirin. yes mad.

Wannabe black night spotted. You've been miscing too much phagget.

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Mcdonalds, ice cream, cookies etc are a poor choice for post workout nutrition. Why would you want that much fat in a pwo meal or carb?

Portion control is the key.

When blood sugar is low, fatty acids are broken down via the biochemical process of beta-oxidation into acetyl units which can then be used to produce energy by oxidative phosphorylation or even converted to glucose via gluconegenisis. This glucose can then undergo glycogenesis to form glycogen.

I agree you need to be careful that you don't eat too much fat in your pwo meal. Fat (9Kcal/g) provides a lot of energy compared to carbs (4Kcal/g).

You can eat whatever you want just usually not so much of it. Hey if you're bulking hard and your IIFYM targets are real high then you've got a good excuse to pig out. :grin:

I sometimes feel intelectually inadequate after reading some of your posts IDW.....

I have 60g whey protein (in water) + 20g glucose + 40g honey PWO....

Whats your opinions, could I make any improvements..?

Here's an article that seems relivant: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle ... ition.html

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