Maassive's Diet

[rovr4on]

So you can do a steam fresh but you cant warm up your chicken?

yeah dude, twice a week fry up a few steaks n breasts. then take it all to work and microwave as need be. eat like an apple orange kiwifruit here n there, just buy a bag n leave em in your draw as snacks. good vitamins/minerals and source of carbs. Lets be honest the quality of vitamins and minerals in a multi vs fruit is proberbly feilds apart. I just eat alot of fruit n veg and take half a multi just incase im missing some other nutrients. Maybe consider a banana with that post workout shake aswell, with say 30g dextrose for the insulin spike? you add bcaa powder to it?

I do actually have a banana usually with post WO - ididnt realise I'd left it off. I use BCAA pre workout and I used to have glucose post WO with creatine but I thought that it would help BF% by cutting that out... I'd be interested in hearing other opinions on that.

cheers for tips on fruit. Your feedback has actually been really really helpful mate

creatine doesnt increase bodyfat, it increases water retention, which gives the illusion of bodyfat. I have read creatine good mix with cycle, again read rather than experienced (shit starting to sound like Ramy) haha. Also read and heard from some BBers that it good to have bcaas pre and post WO.

Creamed rice Post for insulin spike SM? would the rice in carbs slow the uptake of protein since its alot of carbs? But now I come to think of it, creamed rice is uber mushy

[maassive]

Updated to reflect criticism:

5:30 Breakfast CALS PROTEIN FAT CARB

5 Eggs 375 29.5 28.5 0

10ml Olive Oil 126 0 14 0

2 pieces of toast w/ peanut butter 324 16.2 14.2 33.6

8:00 Post WO

Protein Shake 120 24 1 3

Banana

9:00 Second Breakfast

1 Cup Raw rolled oats 292 12.2 4.5 50.6

1 tsp Brown Sugar 11 0 0 3

Handful of Almonds 73 2.5 6.7 0.8

Protein Shake 120 24 1 3

11:00 Pre Lunch

1 Cup of Rice 340 9.2 1.2 72.8

90gm Tuna 130 16.7 5.9 2.8

10ml olive oil 126 0 14 0

Protein Shake 120 24 1 3

Avocado 389 2.8 41.5 1.1

2:00 Lunch

Can of Baked beans 364 21 2.6 66

Meat of the day 356 67 10 0

10ml olive oil 126 0 14 0

Steamed vegies

4:00 Pre Dinner

90gm Tuna 130 16.7 5.9 2.8

1 Cup of Rice 340 9.2 1.2 72.8

7:00 Dinner

200gm Meat (eg 2 chicken breasts) 356 67 10 0

200gm Carbs (rice/pasta/kumara) 170 4.6 0.6 36.4

Vegies

9:00 Goodnight meal

Cassein Protein shake 120 24 1 3

Totals 4508cal 371gm PRO 179gm FAT 355gm CHO

33% 36% 31%

[Daz69]

Hey Fella......

Just found this, have a read....

http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread ... d-Articles

[maassive]

Hey Fella......

Just found this, have a read....

http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread ... d-Articles

faaark what a guru!!! I'm loving this read

[Daz69]

Hey Fella......

Just found this, have a read....

http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread ... d-Articles

faaark what a guru!!! I'm loving this read

Thought you might need it, you look kinda fat.... :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[maassive]

Hey Fella......

Just found this, have a read....

http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread ... d-Articles

faaark what a guru!!! I'm loving this read

Thought you might need it, you look kinda fat.... :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

I'm just maaaaasively big boned.

[bang_bang]

id swap the toast for more complex carbs like another cup of oats. 30g of carbs isnt a lot pre w/o especially when you have just fasted for 8 hours

[maassive]

Hey Fella......

Just found this, have a read....

http://www.afboard.com/forum/showthread ... d-Articles

"As noted above, strictly speaking fiber is not an essential nutrient; you might be healthier with it but if you never ate another gram you would not die. You might want to die when you tried to poop but you wouldn’t actually die without it." LOL

[maassive]

id swap the toast for more complex carbs like another cup of oats. 30g of carbs isnt a lot pre w/o especially when you have just fasted for 8 hours

It's not the toast I want, it's the PButter. besides, who the f*ck doesn't love a good pbutter on toast.

[maassive]

id swap the toast for more complex carbs like another cup of oats. 30g of carbs isnt a lot pre w/o especially when you have just fasted for 8 hours

It's not the toast I want, it's the PButter. besides, who the f*ck doesn't love a good pbutter on toast.

Actually, to be perfectly honest, I really struggle to eat first thing in the morning (unless I sleep in late). the eggs and toast is a fucken mission as it is...

Anyone else like this?

[bang_bang]

have that as well then. i aint hatin on peanut butter on toast thats for sure theres just not a lot of energy in that meal to fuel an intense w/o especially considering your on gear. pre and post workout should be your biggest meals of the day

[maassive]

yeah bro I hear ya. Will throw some oats inthe mix then!

[Lurker]

The total cal number is only really relative to you, everyones metabolism and daily activity level is completely different, some people need 5k+ to bulk while others are at the other end of the scale, so what is your maintenance, and how much over and under that have you bulked/cut on previously?

Looking at that though that looks like way too much fat, you only need 20% of your intake hormone wise and anything over 30 is unnecessary especially in your situation. I'd also up carbs on a bulk way above that, but given your trying to cut fat that might not work for you.

What works for me cutting fat is keeping carbs pre-post workout and limiting them in the evening and consuming pro/fat together and pro/carbs but never carb/fats alone together. And obviously also cutting out the burgers and sugar.

[maassive]

Looking at that though that looks like way too much fat, you only need 20% of your intake hormone wise and anything over 30 is unnecessary especially in your situation.

Interesting.... I've read through much of that guy Lye Mcdonald (links posted a few below) and he would seriously disagree with you on this. You may want to read some of it and argue your position?

[maassive]

The total cal number is only really relative to you, everyones metabolism and daily activity level is completely different, some people need 5k+ to bulk while others are at the other end of the scale, so what is your maintenance, and how much over and under that have you bulked/cut on previously?

Looking at that though that looks like way too much fat, you only need 20% of your intake hormone wise and anything over 30 is unnecessary especially in your situation. I'd also up carbs on a bulk way above that, but given your trying to cut fat that might not work for you.

What works for me cutting fat is keeping carbs pre-post workout and limiting them in the evening and consuming pro/fat together and pro/carbs but never carb/fats alone together. And obviously also cutting out the burgers and sugar.

also, I'm not trying to cut. I was merely asking a question the other day (...exactly what I got pissed at you for... jumping up and down without reading or understanding what was said).

But anyway, thanks for the advice.

[rovr4on]

id swap the toast for more complex carbs like another cup of oats. 30g of carbs isnt a lot pre w/o especially when you have just fasted for 8 hours

It's not the toast I want, it's the PButter. besides, who the f*ck doesn't love a good pbutter on toast.

Actually, to be perfectly honest, I really struggle to eat first thing in the morning (unless I sleep in late). the eggs and toast is a fucken mission as it is...

Anyone else like this?

why not slap the eggs into a shake with frozen berries, banana, pbutter bcaas oats etc for the morning meal pre WO??

[Lurker]

Interesting.... I've read through much of that guy Lye Mcdonald (links posted a few below)

He looks like he lifts pencils and is trying to sell a book, I'd rely more on people like Layne Norton and co who actually practice what they preach.

But copying anyone exactly is pointless, I'm guessing you haven't done the typical bulking/cutting cycle in the past so you need to find out what works for you, what intake you need to maintain, and what an acceptable amount over that works for you in terms of muscle and fat gain, your always going to gain some fat when your trying to gain mass, the aim is not to gain so much that you need to go in some drastic cut afterwards where you end up losing as much muscle as fat so your back to square one.

End of the day when your still finding this stuff out, use the mirror as your guide, you don't get to 20% overnight and just change things if you don't like what your seeing.

[maassive]

Lurker, re your never carbs and fat together this is an article written just for you - on why that is a fallacy.

Also, I think you should be careful about judging the value of someone's knowledge by the way they look (as if this even needs to be said). There is some real value in these articles, the author's physique regardless.

http://alanaragon.com/carbs-fat-friends-after-all.html