opinions on this diet plz!

[tomsammce]

raw weight mr williams, you just taking the piss though right

LOL - sry my bad - I actually wasn't! I thought he was doing some raw food diet kinda thing like Raechelle was! Call it a blonde moment! :grin:

It would strip off the weight quickly.

new method of summer cut bro?

[mr natural]

isn't it meant to be raw fish,lemon juice and coconut creme sm? too long off the boat mate?

[nate225]

isn't it meant to be raw fish,lemon juice and coconut creme sm? too long off the boat mate?

Acidity tend to kill bacteria, I'm good with raw fish but I'll pass on raw chicken! SM - you really eat that shit?

Sry bout the hijack! :grin:

[mr natural]

yep!

diet looks ok argee with most, drop the peaches, maybe increase the brown rice and oats to 1 cup per serve(if muscle gain is number one goal),keep the protein where it is and give it 6 weeks and assess from there.

[samoan_muscle]

isn't it meant to be raw fish,lemon juice and coconut creme sm? too long off the boat mate?

Acidity tend to kill bacteria, I'm good with raw fish but I'll pass on raw chicken! SM - you really eat that shit?

Sry bout the hijack! :grin:

My sarcasm is beyond you at times Mr Nate

[samoan_muscle]

LOL - sry my bad - I actually wasn't! I thought he was doing some raw food diet kinda thing like Raechelle was! Call it a blonde moment! :grin:

Mmmm raw chicken in coconut cream....

I'll stick to Taro SM, the raw chicken would be great for weightloss - The Campylobacter Diet - aka shit off 10kg in 3 days.... :pfft: :grin:

LOL yep next best thing to DNP.

[nate225]

isn't it meant to be raw fish,lemon juice and coconut creme sm? too long off the boat mate?

Acidity tend to kill bacteria, I'm good with raw fish but I'll pass on raw chicken! SM - you really eat that shit?

Sry bout the hijack! :grin:

My sarcasm is beyond you at times Mr Nate

I'm having a slow day today SM! :pfft: Must be work stress! :pfft: :grin:

[Dr Squat]

Acidity tend to kill bacteria, I'm good with raw fish but I'll pass on raw chicken! SM - you really eat that shit?

Sry bout the hijack! :grin:

My sarcasm is beyond you at times Mr Nate

I'm having a slow day today SM! :pfft: Must be work stress! :pfft: :grin:

Stress at work Nate! Lol.

[startinfromscratch]

is it just me or is perpetual injuries posting up perpertually shitty advice?

cutting on 100-odd grams protein a day? that ok if you are going for the crack-smoking-african look, but other wise i would suggest keeping protein high, and as others have said ditch the peaches, and revise what training you are doing.

and drop the trainer - nzbb fo' life

[Gym rat]

Your diet is right on track change to peaches to bannas and for your shake before you go to bed have a shake with 200ml of yoghurt mixed in with your plus you a extra 6g of protein in your shake.

[tomsammce]

Your diet is right on track change to peaches to bannas and for your shake before you go to bed have a shake with 200ml of yoghurt mixed in with your plus you a extra 6g of protein in your shake.

change to peaches? hes already having peaches.... or do u mean change peaches for peaches? or the peaches that magically change to bananas after you OD on some prescription meds?

and have a shake? should he shake the left or right side of his body? draw an arrow which way if iv confused u..

[Calvin]

Your diet is right on track change to peaches to bannas and for your shake before you go to bed have a shake with 200ml of yoghurt mixed in with your plus you a extra 6g of protein in your shake.

change to peaches? hes already having peaches.... or do u mean change peaches for peaches? or the peaches that magically change to bananas after you OD on some prescription meds?

and have a shake? should he shake the left or right side of his body? draw an arrow which way if iv confused u..

BAHAHAHA.. Gym Rat and pertpetual injuries read the same cook books

[bob26]

is it just me or is perpetual injuries posting up perpertually shitty advice?

cutting on 100-odd grams protein a day? that ok if you are going for the crack-smoking-african look, but other wise i would suggest keeping protein high, and as others have said ditch the peaches, and revise what training you are doing.

and drop the trainer - nzbb fo' life

spot on

[thatwaslight]

is it just me or is perpetual injuries posting up perpertually shitty advice?

cutting on 100-odd grams protein a day? that ok if you are going for the crack-smoking-african look, but other wise i would suggest keeping protein high, and as others have said ditch the peaches, and revise what training you are doing.

and drop the trainer - nzbb fo' life

Lololol!

[newbb]

thanks guys heaps of good info and its interesting to see what other people say..

as to my training atm it looks like this:

4 day split,

monday: shulders & back

teusday: legs & abs

thursday: chest, traps & abs

friday: biceps, triceps & forearms

rep range is 6-12, around 12 sets per bodypart. i change my routine and reps every 4 weeks usually and change my bodypart splits around every coupple of months to try something new and keep it interesting. ive been keeping the weight relatively heavy to let the muscle know its needed and needs to stay(so iv read on here in another forum?)

im not trying to cut up a hell of alot just getting my midsection in better shape, im not looking at competing yet.. and so ive been told the body produces more muscle at 12% bf? soo i thought i would get down to 12% and see what happens..im still learning and willing to try new things, experiment with my body and try to understand the way it works a little more.there is so much to learn!

as for the nutritionist im seeing yes she is registered but i think she talks more than she knows or maybe she has forgotten what she learnt, dont think il go back to her :?

peaches are tinned in syrup, she told me to just drain the juice out..

so as from now i will cut out peaches at night and change from 'in syrup' to 'in water' if i can find them.

its good to know my carbs arnt low, i was worried i was burning muslce for fuel.so who knows how she measured i had lost 1.5kgs, must of been simple things like hadnt had as much water or food at that time.

another thing i wanted to know was if i was having enuf simple carbs post training? because carbs is essential post training rite? carbs is a carrier and transports the protein into the muscle??

i am taking myofusion which is 5g of carbs per serving, correct me if i am wrong but it doesnt sound like enough? i was thinking of buying sum glucose powder and adding it to my post workout shake?

[newbb]

thanks guys heaps of good info and its interesting to see what other people say..

as to my training atm it looks like this:

4 day split,

monday: shulders & back

teusday: legs & abs

thursday: chest, traps & abs

friday: biceps, triceps & forearms

rep range is 6-12, around 12 sets per bodypart. i change my routine and reps every 4 weeks usually and change my bodypart splits around every coupple of months to try something new and keep it interesting. ive been keeping the weight relatively heavy to let the muscle know its needed and needs to stay(so iv read on here in another forum?)

im not trying to cut up a hell of alot just getting my midsection in better shape, im not looking at competing yet.. and so ive been told the body produces more muscle at 12% bf? soo i thought i would get down to 12% and see what happens..im still learning and willing to try new things, experiment with my body and try to understand the way it works a little more.there is so much to learn!

as for the nutritionist im seeing yes she is registered but i think she talks more than she knows or maybe she has forgotten what she learnt, dont think il go back to her :?

peaches are tinned in syrup, she told me to just drain the juice out..

so as from now i will cut out peaches at night and change from 'in syrup' to 'in water' if i can find them.

its good to know my carbs arnt low, i was worried i was burning muslce for fuel.so who knows how she measured i had lost 1.5kgs, must of been simple things like hadnt had as much water or food at that time.

another thing i wanted to know was if i was having enuf simple carbs post training? because carbs is essential post training rite? carbs is a carrier and transports the protein into the muscle??

i am taking myofusion which is 5g of carbs per serving, correct me if i am wrong but it doesnt sound like enough? i was thinking of buying sum glucose powder and adding it to my post workout shake?

i also used to take casein at night but she said there was no need for that and that any whey will do the same......hmmm..

she is also against creatine and got me off that too..lol

[newbb]

Also was this person a registered dietitian?

How are the measuring your BF and muscle mass?

she measured with callipers and weighed me on electronic scales, she used the programme on her laptop to get my muscle mass..

[Optimalisation]

she is also against creatine and got me off that too

Well in addition to time of day / full stomach etc mentioned earlier that could explain some of the 'lean mass' loss there too couldn't it? Holding a bit less water?

[Android]

Why would she take you off a supplement that helps you lift heavy weights for those extra few reps at the end of a set? She doesn't want you to get too big to soon?

Milk is similar to Caesin so if you add milk to any shake it's going to slow down the release, but WPC/WPI with water will go right through you in an hour or so. Caesin isn't #1 for growth imo unless you train late at night.

The most important meals for a bodybuilder are breakfast, pre-workout and post-workout, and I'd say 2 meals post-workout are actually important.

Not saying other meals aren't but these ones should be your focus.

And yes 5gms simple carbs is pathetic. Get 30-60gms into you post-workout (and include the creatine the sugar spike rams more of it into the muscle ,anyone who does insulin will tell you that).

[newbb]

she is also against creatine and got me off that too

Well in addition to time of day / full stomach etc mentioned earlier that could explain some of the 'lean mass' loss there too couldn't it? Holding a bit less water?

i think you could be rite about holding less water..i did think of that too.

il probably get back on it as i liked to train with it

[newbb]

Why would she take you off a supplement that helps you lift heavy weights for those extra few reps at the end of a set? She doesn't want you to get too big to soon?

Milk is similar to Caesin so if you add milk to any shake it's going to slow down the release, but WPC/WPI with water will go right through you in an hour or so. Caesin isn't #1 for growth imo unless you train late at night.

The most important meals for a bodybuilder are breakfast, pre-workout and post-workout, and I'd say 2 meals post-workout are actually important.

Not saying other meals aren't but these ones should be your focus.

And yes 5gms simple carbs is pathetic. Get 30-60gms into you post-workout (and include the creatine the sugar spike rams more of it into the muscle ,anyone who does insulin will tell you that).

i dont really no, her thoughts were that its all in your head that creatine helps u lift more etc.she said it sits on top of the muscle and under the skin which gives you the bloated look??

i used to have milk with my bedtime shake and i was putting the flaxseed oil in it because( correct me if im wrong) fats help slow down digestion??..that was when i didnt have any casien.

then she told me to change to water for my bedtime shake and moved the flaxseed oil to earlier in the day.

[Chemo]

Or you could just get some raw fruit if your really that keen on it.