Who do you do bodybuilding for?

[Yeah-Buddy]

[MOD EDIT: Topic split from My 2.5 year transformation]

Seriously impressive work man. Good on you.

Though I do feel I need to say that you really shouldn't feel like you have to put on more muscle mass. Ask any girl and the vast majority would favour how you look now over Frank Zane any day!

No need to ruin a good thing.

Seriously?, over Frank Zane?? If any chick thinks he looks better than Frank Zane I dont think I could tolerate talking to her.

Anyway Im sure most serioius trainers dont really prioritise what girls think. Anyone who is seriously into the sport isnt doing it for the girls.

Ripped is good. Big and ripped is better. Massive and ripped is best!

[Grover]

Seriously impressive work man. Good on you.

Though I do feel I need to say that you really shouldn't feel like you have to put on more muscle mass. Ask any girl and the vast majority would favour how you look now over Frank Zane any day!

No need to ruin a good thing.

Seriously?, over Frank Zane?? If any chick thinks he looks better than Frank Zane I dont think I could tolerate talking to her.

Anyway Im sure most serioius trainers dont really prioritise what girls think. Anyone who is seriously into the sport isnt doing it for the girls.

Ripped is good. Big and ripped is better. Massive and ripped is best!

:nod:

[Jigga]

I actually have to agree with PI. If it's girls you are after then symmetry and rippedness is what you want.

Chicks love Sonny because he has wide shoulders and a natural amount of muscle. Bbing isn't mainstream and looking wayyyy bigger than the general populus will be seen as a negative by most girls (not all).

As soon as you start looking a little freaky you cut the potential field down a lot. If you are butt ugly though then getting big can increase the field (because it was so small to begin with) and the chicks that want a freak to hang off will come flocking.

In general guys get freaky big to impress other guys... just sayin.

[perpetual_injuries]

I'll definitely agree with you there Jigga. It's a very straight guy thing to do. A lot of the time the natural aesthetic shape is lost with the quest to be really large.

I'd also say, that getting to the huge levels of muscle, A: it's not very practical, B: to a degree isn't not particularly healthy. Look at the human body over history and you'll see it's evolved has evolved to a point where the ideal efficient/effective level of muscle is about what Josef already has. As a competitive athlete I wouldn't give you thank you for any more bulk than that, ignoring the aesthetic side, it ends up being big, and very slow moving muscle.

Personally I ripped and solid is the ideal, big is getting excessive and massive is just gross.

[thatwaslight]

I find it interesting that people talk about being "too big" like it is something that is easily achieved or happens over night.

If you throw a bit of tin round and have a few shakes and you turn into a mass monster right??? most of the people on this site will never know what its like to be truly big (myself included atm anyway)

If your worried about getting 'to big' please don't it will NEVER happen

[Jigga]

I find it interesting that people talk about being "too big" like it is something that is easily achieved or happens over night.

If you throw a bit of tin round and have a few shakes and you turn into a mass monster right??? most of the people on this site will never know what its like to be truly big (myself included atm anyway)

If your worried about getting 'to big' please don't it will NEVER happen

I don't disagree with this...

[Yeah-Buddy]

I actually have to agree with PI. If it's girls you are after then symmetry and rippedness is what you want.

My point was that if your passionate about bodybuilding then it has nothing to do with girls. Who cares what they think.

As a competitive athlete I wouldn't give you thank you for any more bulk than that, ignoring the aesthetic side, it ends up being big, and very slow moving muscle.

As a competitive athlete for what? As this is a BODYBUILDING forum I will assume you mean bodybuilding so I couldnt disagree more. More mass us always better if condition is maintained. As for any other sport who gives a shit.

Personally I ripped and solid is the ideal, big is getting excessive and massive is just gross.

Thats personal opinon. I dont argue that chicks dont dig how Jay Cutler looks but it doesnt take away from the fact that he is an impressive beast.

Bbing isn't mainstream and looking wayyyy bigger than the general populus will be seen as a negative by most girls (not all).

Its because its not mainstream which is somewhat the appeal aswell imo. As for it being viewed negatively by girls, who cares! In saying that tho theres plenty of chicks who will say its gross then be all up on you 5minutes later. LOL

[tomsammce]

I find it interesting that people talk about being "too big" like it is something that is easily achieved or happens over night.

If you throw a bit of tin round and have a few shakes and you turn into a mass monster right??? most of the people on this site will never know what its like to be truly big (myself included atm anyway)

If your worried about getting 'to big' please don't it will NEVER happen

yeah wankers.

[jimjim83]

I find it interesting that people talk about being "too big" like it is something that is easily achieved or happens over night.

If you throw a bit of tin round and have a few shakes and you turn into a mass monster right??? most of the people on this site will never know what its like to be truly big (myself included atm anyway)

If your worried about getting 'to big' please don't it will NEVER happen

yeah wankers.

I would hate to be too big all those icky muscles.

The people that talk about too big think a 100kg bench is huge or their mate who weighs 85kgs is huge. these are the same people who choose to do a 60kg bench because they are going for "reps". You cant get too big!

[breezy]

respect brov

[tomsammce]

I actually have to agree with PI. If it's girls you are after then symmetry and rippedness is what you want.

Chicks love Sonny because he has wide shoulders and a natural amount of muscle. Bbing isn't mainstream and looking wayyyy bigger than the general populus will be seen as a negative by most girls (not all).

As soon as you start looking a little freaky you cut the potential field down a lot. If you are butt ugly though then getting big can increase the field (because it was so small to begin with) and the chicks that want a freak to hang off will come flocking.

In general guys get freaky big to impress other guys... just sayin.

Ur "just sayn"?

No offence, but wtf do u know about anything u just said?... Lol

[Rookie]

I actually have to agree with PI. If it's girls you are after then symmetry and rippedness is what you want.

Chicks love Sonny because he has wide shoulders and a natural amount of muscle. Bbing isn't mainstream and looking wayyyy bigger than the general populus will be seen as a negative by most girls (not all).

As soon as you start looking a little freaky you cut the potential field down a lot. If you are butt ugly though then getting big can increase the field (because it was so small to begin with) and the chicks that want a freak to hang off will come flocking.

In general guys get freaky big to impress other guys... just sayin.

Ur "just sayn"?

No offence, but wtf do u know about anything u just said?... Lol

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Jigga you're talking about a lot of people there, huge generalization- I am far from being Freaky too but I don't train for chicks. Agree with TWL, if it was so easy you would see mass monsters at the bus exchange, not guys like Deano wearing XS shirts to make their arms look big

[Jigga]

I actually have to agree with PI. If it's girls you are after then symmetry and rippedness is what you want.

Chicks love Sonny because he has wide shoulders and a natural amount of muscle. Bbing isn't mainstream and looking wayyyy bigger than the general populus will be seen as a negative by most girls (not all).

As soon as you start looking a little freaky you cut the potential field down a lot. If you are butt ugly though then getting big can increase the field (because it was so small to begin with) and the chicks that want a freak to hang off will come flocking.

In general guys get freaky big to impress other guys... just sayin.

Ur "just sayn"?

No offence, but wtf do u know about anything u just said?... Lol

I'm an unbiased observer. Not ripped or massive. If I was one or the other I think my argument would lose some credit. The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

P.S. Instead of throwing your toys out of the cot and abusing me why don't you produce an argument which disproves what I just said.

Jigga you're talking about a lot of people there, huge generalization- I am far from being Freaky too but I don't train for chicks. Agree with TWL, if it was so easy you would see mass monsters at the bus exchange, not guys like Deano wearing XS shirts to make their arms look big

I also agree with TWL and nearly everyone on this site is at no risk of being so freaky that girls find them repulsive. Blanket statements are good to provoke a response. Tom is usually the only one that bites though and all he does is mash his keyboard in a blind rage.

[Jigga]

Food for thought: If you are trying to get as big as possible Rookie but you aren't doing it for girls... then who are you doing it for?

The answer is boys but if you are convinced you are doing it for yourself then give an explanation and prove me wrong. I'm open to your opinion and you may even change my view on it.

Getting strong is similar in that you are training to be top dog amongst the fellas. Most girls aren't attracted to big fat dudes lifting boulders on to barrels. I can appreciate there are masochists out there though who train purely to feel the pain and see how far they can push themselves but they still enjoy the by-product of getting big.

[samoan_muscle]

I also agree with TWL and nearly everyone on this site is at no risk of being so freaky that girls find them repulsive. Blanket statements are good to provoke a response. Tom is usually the only one that bites though and all he does is mash his keyboard in a blind rage.

I think you will find there are a number of us on this board who at some stage in their bodybuilding journey have had chicks tell us that we are too big and look gross.

[Jigga]

I also agree with TWL and nearly everyone on this site is at no risk of being so freaky that girls find them repulsive. Blanket statements are good to provoke a response. Tom is usually the only one that bites though and all he does is mash his keyboard in a blind rage.

I think you will find there are a number of us on this board who at some stage in their bodybuilding journey have had chicks tell us that we are too big and look gross.

Well of the 5760 members on this site I would say there are less than 1% who are in that category with you SM :wink:

[tomsammce]

I actually have to agree with PI. If it's girls you are after then symmetry and rippedness is what you want.

Chicks love Sonny because he has wide shoulders and a natural amount of muscle. Bbing isn't mainstream and looking wayyyy bigger than the general populus will be seen as a negative by most girls (not all).

As soon as you start looking a little freaky you cut the potential field down a lot. If you are butt ugly though then getting big can increase the field (because it was so small to begin with) and the chicks that want a freak to hang off will come flocking.

In general guys get freaky big to impress other guys... just sayin.

Ur "just sayn"?

No offence, but wtf do u know about anything u just said?... Lol

I'm an unbiased observer. Not ripped or massive. If I was one or the other I think my argument would lose some credit. The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

P.S. Instead of throwing your toys out of the cot and abusing me why don't you produce an argument which disproves what I just said.

Jigga you're talking about a lot of people there, huge generalization- I am far from being Freaky too but I don't train for chicks. Agree with TWL, if it was so easy you would see mass monsters at the bus exchange, not guys like Deano wearing XS shirts to make their arms look big

I also agree with TWL and nearly everyone on this site is at no risk of being so freaky that girls find them repulsive. Blanket statements are good to provoke a response. Tom is usually the only one that bites though and all he does is mash his keyboard in a blind rage.

i wasnt throwing my toys, im saying yr not really qualified i guess for lack of a better word to say that... so its really just wat jigga thinks isnt it?

your not 100 or 110kgs, you dont go out to bars and clubs weighing that and looking big... so how would you know what all the girls like and dnt like... most of the time they either really like it or really dislike it... theres not really an in between... from my experiences.

and sure to ppl on this forum none of us are by any means freakish because we all know what freakish looks like... but to some lil blonde sluzza who never seen a bodybuilding competition in her life we do look freaskish.

(word of the day = freakish)

and for u to say if u dont do it for girls then u must do it for guys... wtf ru on? most ppl do geniunly do it for themselves. and yeah the physique that comes with is is just a bonus...

also these lil sluzzas that are like 18-21... most them have physiques that are much more developed over they boyfriends... they could squat and dealift more i reckon.... mate when u get to the sluzzas how are late 20s, 30s, 40s... they appreciate a physique alot more, they suck a better cock... so thats 20-25 years compared to 7 years of your 18-25 year olds

u know what im saying?

p.s - id steal ur mrs anyday jigga and make her not walk for a month for a week.

[Rookie]

Food for thought: If you are trying to get as big as possible Rookie but you aren't doing it for girls... then who are you doing it for?

The answer is boys but if you are convinced you are doing it for yourself then give an explanation and prove me wrong. I'm open to your opinion and you may even change my view on it.

Getting strong is similar in that you are training to be top dog amongst the fellas. Most girls aren't attracted to big fat dudes lifting boulders on to barrels. I can appreciate there are masochists out there though who train purely to feel the pain and see how far they can push themselves but they still enjoy the by-product of getting big.

LOL you don't even know me dude. The reason I want to get is big as possible is because this is the only thing/activity I have found that I have ever wanted to give 110%. Soon as I started PLing/PBing training it appealed to me because you are consistent with everything/commit to it 24/7- nutrition in particular.

Then I thought damn if I could get as big as possible that would help my sport and getting as strong as possible would help me get big (with the type of training I do anyway).

So in a nutshell, I don't train to show off to anyone or be the big man on the block. I may sound like I'm repeating myself but I do it for the personal challenge, I love pushing myself and getting stronger. Just got the iron bug I guess, you'll understand it when you start eating/training consistently :nod: I hate doing things half arsed, so for me its the perfect opportunity to go all in

You say girls dont like PLers/Strongmen, you think I give a flying f*ck? If that was the reason I was training then I would. It aint so I couldnt give a rats arse what girls think.

Rookie

[Dr Squat]

I also agree with TWL and nearly everyone on this site is at no risk of being so freaky that girls find them repulsive. Blanket statements are good to provoke a response. Tom is usually the only one that bites though and all he does is mash his keyboard in a blind rage.

I think you will find there are a number of us on this board who at some stage in their bodybuilding journey have had chicks tell us that we are too big and look gross.

Yup. I get this on a daily basis. Often at night too when I am woken up and told to rollover and stop snoring. And I'm not even a bodybuilder. :oops:

[nate225]

I also agree with TWL and nearly everyone on this site is at no risk of being so freaky that girls find them repulsive. Blanket statements are good to provoke a response. Tom is usually the only one that bites though and all he does is mash his keyboard in a blind rage.

I think you will find there are a number of us on this board who at some stage in their bodybuilding journey have had chicks tell us that we are too big and look gross.

Yup. I get this on a daily basis. Often at night too when I am woken up and told to rollover and stop snoring. And I'm not even a bodybuilder. :oops:

LOL - so you're another poor bastard that gets to wake up with a frozen shoulder and pin & needles in your arm out of fear of sleeping on your back and snoring the house down! I'm feeling your pain brother, usually in the ribs at 3 am from right hook! :pfft: :grin:

The best comment I ever got was "ew thats gross, you're all distorted with all those muscles". I took it as a compliment! :grin:

[Jigga]

Sweet Rookie.

I like this:

Soon as I started PLing/PBing training it appealed to me because you are consistent with everything/commit to it 24/7- nutrition in particular.

But there was a lot of defensive bs in there:

LOL you don't even know me dude.

You say girls dont like PLers/Strongmen, you think I give a flying f*ck?

It aint so I couldnt give a rats arse what girls think.Rookie

I'm guilty of provoking you with the boy comment but I meant it in light-hearted way. Nothing personal, just chill a little mate.

[Dr Squat]

Sweet Rookie.

I like this:

Soon as I started PLing/PBing training it appealed to me because you are consistent with everything/commit to it 24/7- nutrition in particular.

But there was a lot of defensive bs in there:

LOL you don't even know me dude.

You say girls dont like PLers/Strongmen, you think I give a flying f*ck?

It aint so I couldnt give a rats arse what girls think.Rookie

I'm guilty of provoking you with the boy comment but I meant it in light-hearted way. Nothing personal, just chill a little mate.

Rookie, you firey little prick...

Let's play nice. "Relax people, it's just the internet".

[HarryB]

just remember it isn't about your physique or your personality. Grow your wallet and you'll always do ok ha ha ha ha ha ha

I'm just sayin!

[PeterDolan]

Let's play nice. "Relax people, it's just the internet".

Q Doc!

[Dr Squat]

Let's play nice. "Relax people, it's just the internet".

Q Doc!

I gave you my abs so thought I could borrow your quote? :pfft: