chest workout

[jimjim83]

while the decline is probably the best to perform it is also the most dangerous as if you dont have a spotter there is a big chance you can drop the weight on your head instead of your chest

plus if you have blood pressure issues like alot of big guys do it raises your bp because of all the blood rushing to your head

Dropping it on your head is an issue but blood presure shouldnt be.

Sure your in a decline position but your not upside down.

If blood pressure is that much of an issue should probably go see a Dr.

[Mrbig]

while the decline is probably the best to perform it is also the most dangerous as if you dont have a spotter there is a big chance you can drop the weight on your head instead of your chest

plus if you have blood pressure issues like alot of big guys do it raises your bp because of all the blood rushing to your head

Dropping it on your head is an issue but blood presure shouldnt be.

Sure your in a decline position but your not upside down.

If blood pressure is that much of an issue should probably go see a Dr.

your head is below your heart so it will raise your bp just saying as a precurser for anybody who has problems

I mean a heavy weight session raises your bp anyway and yes jimjim there alot of people who think there healthy beacuse there lean but it can be quite the opposite

[jimjim83]

while the decline is probably the best to perform it is also the most dangerous as if you dont have a spotter there is a big chance you can drop the weight on your head instead of your chest

plus if you have blood pressure issues like alot of big guys do it raises your bp because of all the blood rushing to your head

Dropping it on your head is an issue but blood presure shouldnt be.

Sure your in a decline position but your not upside down.

If blood pressure is that much of an issue should probably go see a Dr.

your head is below your heart so it will raise your bp just saying as a precurser for anybody who has problems

I mean a heavy weight session raises your bp anyway and yes jimjim there alot of people who think there healthy beacuse there lean but it can be quite the opposite

I would be interested to know how much more a decline bench raises the BP compared to a flat bench when using a stressful amout of weights. I guess it would be minimal but im far from being a Doc, well thats a registered Doc.

[weener lad]

Use dumb bells and you won't drop anything on your noggin :pfft: Given it is alot harder to get onto the decline bench and do the exercise but you get use to it.

[train hard]

while the decline is probably the best to perform it is also the most dangerous as if you dont have a spotter there is a big chance you can drop the weight on your head instead of your chest

plus if you have blood pressure issues like alot of big guys do it raises your bp because of all the blood rushing to your head

Dropping it on your head is an issue but blood presure shouldnt be.

Sure your in a decline position but your not upside down.

If blood pressure is that much of an issue should probably go see a Dr.

i get a slight head rush from declines but doesnt come close to the rush of blood to my head when doing heavy ass squats and deads!

[tinytraps]

I dont see how declines are a more anatomically correct movement as the pecs are prime movers for horizontal flexion. Ive never liked declines, the metal millitia guys rate them for arched benchers but they never really worked much prefer dips (when im strong enough to do them )

[Mrbig]

I dont see how declines are a more anatomically correct movement as the pecs are prime movers for horizontal flexion. Ive never liked declines, the metal millitia guys rate them for arched benchers but they never really worked much prefer dips (when im strong enough to do them )

your right anatomically not the best but how many bbers actually know there anatomy lol they still think you can hit different areas of a muscle but it is still your strongest bench so can place a bigger load thru the pecs

[PeterDolan]

they still think you can hit different areas of a muscle

You can hit different areas of a muscle better with different angles etc

[Mrbig]

they still think you can hit different areas of a muscle

You can hit different areas of a muscle better with different angles etc

anatomically this doesnt make sense because when you understand the functions of a muscle and the movements they perform no matter how you perform and exercise at whatever angle the entire muscle is still hit

But in saying that I have nothing against what you believe in but if you genetically dont have a peak in your bicep no matter what you do it will never happen

[PeterDolan]

they still think you can hit different areas of a muscle

You can hit different areas of a muscle better with different angles etc

anatomically this doesnt make sense because when you understand the functions of a muscle and the movements they perform no matter how you perform and exercise at whatever angle the entire muscle is still hit

But in saying that I have nothing against what you believe in but if you genetically dont have a peak in your bicep no matter what you do it will never happen

So what you are saying is that there is absolutely no difference between incline, flat and decline presses?

[Mrbig]

You can hit different areas of a muscle better with different angles etc

anatomically this doesnt make sense because when you understand the functions of a muscle and the movements they perform no matter how you perform and exercise at whatever angle the entire muscle is still hit

But in saying that I have nothing against what you believe in but if you genetically dont have a peak in your bicep no matter what you do it will never happen

So what you are saying is that there is absolutely no difference between incline, flat and decline presses?

anatomically yes but there have been emg studies that show otherwise but the difference isnt that significant I never ever do decline presses and my so called lower pecs are fine

The Pec muscle has 3 origins and 1 insertion the humerus and to perform a benchpress at whatever angle the entire pec is stretched and contracted

[PeterDolan]

You have to be joking

[Mrbig]

You have to be joking

http://www.rad.washington.edu/academics ... atlasImage

look at the pic you will see what im talking about if you dont believe me Its ok to each their own but I dont think you can argue with the human anatomy its been the same since well forever

[tinytraps]

You can hit different areas of a muscle better with different angles etc

anatomically this doesnt make sense because when you understand the functions of a muscle and the movements they perform no matter how you perform and exercise at whatever angle the entire muscle is still hit

But in saying that I have nothing against what you believe in but if you genetically dont have a peak in your bicep no matter what you do it will never happen

So what you are saying is that there is absolutely no difference between incline, flat and decline presses?

Different leverages. You can usually decline more than flat, flat more than incline. Incline more than millitary press. I think what mr big is trying to get at is when people say they want to isolate your upper pecs you cant do that your pec major is one muscle. Inclines place more stress on the clavicular fibres, declines the sternal fibres but the entire chest complex is being worked as you're performing the pecs prime movement pattern if that makes sense.

[PeterDolan]

anatomically this doesnt make sense because when you understand the functions of a muscle and the movements they perform no matter how you perform and exercise at whatever angle the entire muscle is still hit

But in saying that I have nothing against what you believe in but if you genetically dont have a peak in your bicep no matter what you do it will never happen

So what you are saying is that there is absolutely no difference between incline, flat and decline presses?

Inclines place more stress on the clavicular fibres, declines the sternal fibres but the entire chest complex is being worked as you're performing the pecs prime movement pattern if that makes sense.

THANK YOU TT! That was exactly what I was saying but what he was saying that regardless of the exercise, you don't work different areas more effectively (or at least that's how I interpreted it)

[AgentOrange]

i rate decline and i find it my strongest angle. I normally (after warming up go)

Decline

Flat

Incline

Strongest angle to my weakest angle

[PeterDolan]

On another note, how do people feel about declines and pec shape? I've heard it can give a very unaesthetic droop to the lower pec, never needing more lower pec development, I only use them on occasion so can't dismiss this as fiction, any first hand experience?

I think that muscle shape is largely to do with this and it only occurs in some people where their bellies are shaped this way

[chaos]

I usually work weakest to strongest in an effort to strengthen my weak points.........to each his own.

[Creatine]

my normal flat benching style mimicks a slight decline and is stronger than my press on a decline bench cos the bench doesnt allow for leg drive or stability. As far as chest development in a bodybuilding sense i usually rely more on heavy dumbbell work because of the greater stretch i get at the bottom.