straps and deadlifts

[blahman]

at what point do you start using straps?

my limit seems to be around 140kg and the bar wont hold

[Phedder]

Do you mean after 140kg you can't keep hold of the bar? I'd suggest doing some grip specific work to increase your grip strength instead of using straps at the point your grip gives out. You could use straps until your grip strength catches up with your deadlift weight, but they're not a solution to the problem.

[AgentOrange]

my grips shit. Since TT sent me straps i use them from the get go.

word

[thatwaslight]

i can barely hold onto anything over 160 but my max is over 230, but the way i look at it i'm not going to drop the straps and compromise weight

[tinytraps]

whats wrong with bringing up your grip to match your strength?

Continually using straps is just going to exacerbate the problem

[thatwaslight]

im doing heavy rack pulls atm to try and close the gap but its a big gap lol

[genetic freek]

Is this overhand grip or over under?

[thatwaslight]

by under you mean one under one over?

[drizzt]

OP: Have you tried chalk? What grip do you use?

I used to use straps when I was younger, and I wasn't able to do heavier deadlifts without them. When I reset my deads last year, I resolved not to use the straps. My grip improved with my deads, and at my top sets nowadays I don't notice any fatigue with an alternate grip + chalk.

Now I don't suggest you reset your deads just to get your grip up to speed, but maybe try chalk, and/or doing your warmup sets without straps (or until you absolutely can't deadlift without them).

Just my 2c

[TonganTerror]

whats wrong with bringing up your grip to match your strength?

Continually using straps is just going to exacerbate the problem

I agree with you here TT but if your doing some back specific work like a bent over row I like to use the straps on 100kg+ just so I can focus directly on the muscle im trying to hit same applies with wide grip chins or upright rows heavier than 60kg.

[rose]

Don’t let your grip be the limiting factor when training for max effort. If your grip is weak, train it separately. Also, a lot of people will always use an overhand/underhand grip when deadlifting. Switching to a double over hand grip and using straps will lessen the chance of a biceps tear as well as eliminating the windmill effect that many lifters seem to have when using a pronated/supinated grip.

Do as much as you can without straps and when grip starts to fail use straps.

[PeterDolan]

If you are a PLer/SM, don't use straps, if you are BBer, use straps when you need them, not necessarily when your grip fails.

[rose]

If you are a PLer/SM, don't use straps

Rubbish! Use straps when your grip starts to fail. If grip is a weak point, train it, just like you would any other weak point.

You often see pro strongmen and powerlifters training with straps. You going to stop a training session or lift less because grip gives out? Nah :grin:

[PeterDolan]

I was gonna add in about using them when you may need them for theose sports but as I don't train for it I thought I better not, rather than start a huge debate I know little about

[tomsammce]

deadlifting is not a forearm/grip exercise, its a back exercise. like rose said go as heavy as u can without and then add them in.

its not about grip strength, peoples hand are diff sizes and olympic bars are not ergonomically suited to them so wraps is only option.

[genetic freek]

Just go over and under with chalk. You should not have too many grip issues doing this.

[tomsammce]

having one hand pronated and one supinated can lead to bicep tear easliy if you are not careful (even if you are careful)

[Maximus]

I have to use straps when I go over 120kg in the Deadlift (my max is 150kg). My grip is my weak point but I put this down to my hands being cut up by Kettlebells and BJJ most of the time.

Anyone suggest any grip specific exercises?

[tomsammce]

I have to use straps when I go over 120kg in the Deadlift (my max is 150kg). My grip is my weak point but I put this down to my hands being cut up by Kettlebells and BJJ most of the time.

Anyone suggest any grip specific exercises?

bjj and judo ka have insane strong grip from gripping the Gi alot, one my best mates is 2nd dan fights under 73kg and his forearm strength is fucken crazy. so thats not a good excuse buddy lol

[rose]

Anyone suggest any grip specific exercises?

Try some timed DB holds, fat bar work, farmers walks etc:

Grip Training for the Deadlift. By Elliot Newman and Andy Bolton

[TonganTerror]

I have to use straps when I go over 120kg in the Deadlift (my max is 150kg). My grip is my weak point but I put this down to my hands being cut up by Kettlebells and BJJ most of the time.

Anyone suggest any grip specific exercises?

bro there is a kettlebell website I found a while ago cant find it now can you flick me a link if you have it?

[Monarchking]

I know my current max with chalk, would be interesting with straps

reason i usaly dont use straps is so I am trained to grip heavy ass things. so when im out of the gym and sum random say "dude give us a lift" I wont have to strap up for the occasion.

[crazyfacials]

bjj and judo ka have insane strong grip from gripping the Gi alot

tell me about it...I hate fighting anyone who's been training judo for more than 5 years since chances are if they grab your GI it's pretty much over (especially if they cheat and have real thick contest GIs vs my cheap gi) :evil:

[tinytraps]

I know my current max with chalk, would be interesting with straps

reason i usaly dont use straps is so I am trained to grip heavy ass things. so when im out of the gym and sum random say "dude give us a lift" I wont have to strap up for the occasion.

This is gold! My grips always stronger than my back (labouring for summer work definetley helped) but ive always made a concious effort to work my grip. Remember your only as strong as your weakest link!

[Maximus]

It's not an excuse for grip, however, you don't need a great grip for BJJ. It depends on your game plan and what level you are at. If you grip my Gi hard and don't watch your positioning and hips all the strength in the world is not going to help you. When you extend your arm / leg I'm taking it away with me. Simple.

Kettlebell websites:

http://www.mikemahler.com/

http://www.kettlebellsnz.com/

http://www.fullkontact.com/