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Attention Country of origin Comps


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Hey BG,

What this means is that the "country of Origin" shows that were suppose to qualify NZ competitors for the Australian Nationals will no longer qualify competitors for Australians Nats or any Nationals for that matter as no longer backed by any federation. Hope that clears it up for you.

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Just got off Phone from Carole

The Country of Origin in Australia and the NZ Privately Promoted Shows are all go as planned and id suggest that the INZFBB/NZFBB/NPC exec team or whatever you are called these days focus on your own shows and we will do the same.

Mike Debenham

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Please be advised that the gutless person making any claims on behalf of myself or my husband Paul Graham,be informed that you have no right to make any statements or claims on our behalf.

Do not use our names to back anything you have to say please. If you persist, we will have you in court.

Don't pretend to have any authority to speak on our behalf. And don't try to create trouble with your claims.

I will not be entering into any further discussion with you so don't bother posting anything else and do not use our names stating what we are saying or doing to give yourself any credibility.

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Hi there all

Mark had asked me to post this up on his behalf in the event calendar ... it's relevant here too ...

Note!!

Event: The Harbour Fitness Country of Origin BB Qualifier Championship.

Date: Saturday 9th October 2010.

Venue: Auckland Girls Grammar School.

Registration: Friday 8th October @ the Venue from 5.00 to 8.00pm & Saturday from 9.00 to 10.00am ( both regos @ the Event Venue )

Competitors Briefing: 10.00am

Prejudging: 11.00am

Final: 5.00pm

Guest Poser: Tony “The Body “ Ligaliga.

Aussie Trip: Selected Athletes from this Event will receive funding to compete in Aussie for the Country of Origin Championships.

Athletes: All athletes competing in Aussie will have a chance to meet with Phil Heath, photo shoot & having meal with Phil.

Teams: We have some huge Teams from various Gyms competing in this Event 9th October.

Teams from Genetics gym, from The Environment- Fitness 15, from Club Physicals, from Proformance–Tauranga, from Wolfs gym and let’s not forget the largest & the biggest of them all “ Team Harbour Fitness”.

ATTENTION:

Please don’t read into what some disgruntled person wrote or post on websites about the South Island 25th September, Tauranga 25th September & Auckland Event 9th October.

I can assure you all that these three Events will go as planned and we have 110% full support of Paul & Carole Graham.

All Athletes competing in these three Events regardless of placing are able to compete in Aussie if they so desire.

Selected Athletes will received funding as part of their prizes, awards & rewards.

I’m in full support of taking care of the Athletes regardless of the Color, Ethnic, Cultural, Religion or even who they compete for.

Event Contact: Auckland 9th October, Mark Stewart Ph 021 949818.

: South Island 25th September, Mike Debenham Ph 021 885212.

: Tauranga 25th September, Daryl & Kaye O’Neill Ph 0800 998227 or 0272 923072.

Posted on behalf of Mark Stewart

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Thank you for confirming that Carol.

There are over a hundred athletes registered so far for Kaye and Mike's shows this weekend with indications from a good number of athletes who are eager to compete at your event in Sydney, even before selections have been made.

The athletes selected from these events will have full support from the team managers attending your event and each athlete will be paid their subsidies when promised - not just a select favourite few and accomodation is at the very beautiful and trendy Bondi Beach. The athletes will be basking in the the sun with athletes from Guam, New Caledonia and other islands. How exciting is that.

The sponsors for Mike and Kayes events have been amazing.. Just have a look at the posters. Many new sponsors have come on board and the organisers have sunk their teeth in and done everything to ensure these will be brilliant shows.

These 3 upcoming events in New Zealand also welcome back past judges who have previously been disposed of, who have a wealth of judging experience so the athletes are assured of fair judging with the normal criteria of the past. Athletes of any federation are welcome to compete in these events. All the best to the organisers and to the athletes this weekend.. CHCH and Tauranga will rock..

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Thank You for your input Carol,

Again, I never said the shows wouldnt go ahead I simply said that I have received official Informatiom from the TOP of the IFBB stating that these shows will not be supported by IFBB Australia.

Both you and MIke have stated that the shows will go ahead, what is not clear, is whether or not The IFBB Australia will be supporting them as Legitimate qualifiers to the Australian Nationals. Could you Please confirm this as I have received information to the contrary.

Thank you

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Moe Elmoussawi has asked that the following statement from himself, on behalf of the NZIFBB, be included to provide a balanced input from all parties involved.

I have spoken with Dr Rafael Santonja (IFBB President) and Jim Manion (IFBB Vice President, North America) and have asked that Paul Graham and Carole Graham be asked to resign if they continue to support the shows being run in New Zealand by another body claiming IFBB affiliation.

The rules state only one IFBB affiliate per nation.

This matter will be discussed further at the IFBB Congress in 3 weeks time.

Moe Elmoussawi

As all parties have had their say this thread will remain locked.

Promoters / Officials - please deal with each other directly with regards to this issue, the moderators will act strictly & impartially if any potentially defaming comments appear elsewhere on this forum due to the commercial ramifications of this dispute.

Lets see some Bodybuilding rather than Bodybuilding Politics eh?! :grin:

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  • 4 weeks later...

this was posted up on Go Figure today ...

http://www.gofigure.co.nz/doc/index2.ph ... 0&Itemid=7

20 October Update

Letter says

To all NZIFBB Members

Dear valued members of the New Zealand International Federation of Bodybuilders:

Any NZIFBB athlete who is considering competing at the Australian Nationals 'Country of Origin' without formal consent of the NZIFBB Federation will loose his/hers membership status immediately and will be suspended from our federation for two consecutive years

The NZIFBB has not approved the Country of Origin's class, therefore you have not qualified through the proper IFBB Federation of your country in which is deemed illegal

If you have any queries regarding this matter, please do not hesistate to contact me at nzfbb@xtra.co.nz

Sincerely

Johanna Moses

Secretary

Discuss but play nice :wink:

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How can that possibly be legal?

Why would the NZFBB committee want to exclude some of NZs best talent from their comps next year and the year after? This appears to be such an immature knee jerk reaction from the NZFBB that will lead to some of the best competitors boycotting their shows. :naughty:

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Why on earth the NZFBB would want to leave out some of there best athlets from there comps in the new year.I thought how very immature from the NZFBB which lead to some of there best athlets jumping ship and competing in other feds like NABBA,INBA,IFBB south pacfic and NABBA/ WFF also thought that as well can this be legal and what a dumb letter or in other words :roll: .

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And it is for this exact reason those of us competing really don't care about the NZIFBB or losing our membership fees.

It's all about particular people feathering their own nests instead of allowing (amateur) athletes to compete where ever possible.

I guess this will really be my last Classic Class comp! Never mind NABBA/WFF is heading in a better direction than the current NZIFBB.

NZIFBB it's about the athletes, without them and their support you will not exist! WE pay your wages :evil:

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Why doesn't NZIFBB do the same to those competing for Nabba and Nabba/WFF and ban them for 2 years? Would just make it consistent after all.

I would have thought competing for Nabba or Nabba/WFF was more disloyal to NZIFBB than the Origin.

If we want to keep competitors loyal and locked to one federation then that would be the best way.

The problem is only 60 competitors turned up for NZIFBB Nationals this year and with a rule like that they might get a lot less.

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