Why do legs take so long 2 recover?

[Monarchking]

Seriously?. For me anyway, after training wheels, for 2days I can barely move, then another 2days I'm sore. Other body parts don't get as near sore as wheels. Is it like this for every1? I love it, but f*ck I can't w8 to wake up 2mrw a little bit more repaired

[PeterDolan]

Maybe tack on 5 minutes cool down after your workout to loosen up the pump and remove some lactic acid. Also stretching will help too. Not gonna comment about nutrition cause I'm assuming you've already got that down

As a side note, Tom Platz trained legs every 10 days, he felt they took that long to recover before the were ready to hit them again

[Monarchking]

Maybe tack on 5 minutes cool down after your workout to loosen up the pump and remove some lactic acid. Also stretching will help too. Not gonna comment about nutrition cause I'm assuming you've already got that down

As a side note, Tom Platz trained legs every 10 days, he felt they took that long to recover before the were ready to hit them again

thats interesting about Tom Platz. I will admit in the past my warm downs have been pretty brief. But been doing some pretty soild ones recently with a bit of stretching in between sets as well, and still death. :twisted:

[PeterDolan]

Maybe tack on 5 minutes cool down after your workout to loosen up the pump and remove some lactic acid. Also stretching will help too. Not gonna comment about nutrition cause I'm assuming you've already got that down

As a side note, Tom Platz trained legs every 10 days, he felt they took that long to recover before the were ready to hit them again

thats interesting about Tom Platz. I will admit in the past my warm downs have been pretty brief. But been doing some pretty soild ones recently with a bit of stretching in between sets, and still death. :twisted:

PWO stretching would be more critical for dulling down your DOMS. Do you constantly change your workouts? When ever I add in a new exercise or completely change my rep scheme then I will have DOMS for at least 2 days and my legs can't do intense cardio or explosive movements for a further 2. Comes with the territory I guess

[Monarchking]

Maybe tack on 5 minutes cool down after your workout to loosen up the pump and remove some lactic acid. Also stretching will help too. Not gonna comment about nutrition cause I'm assuming you've already got that down

As a side note, Tom Platz trained legs every 10 days, he felt they took that long to recover before the were ready to hit them again

thats interesting about Tom Platz. I will admit in the past my warm downs have been pretty brief. But been doing some pretty soild ones recently with a bit of stretching in between sets, and still death. :twisted:

PWO stretching would be more critical for dulling down your DOMS. Do you constantly change your workouts? When ever I add in a new exercise or completely change my rep scheme then I will have DOMS for at least 2 days and my legs can't do intense cardio or explosive movements for a further 2. Comes with the territory I guess

I often change my rep scheme as apposed to new exercises, some weeks are the same.

[PeterDolan]

Maybe that's it then, just constantly innervating different muscle fibers.

No doubt though someone else will have a opinion on this, will be good to hear what others think

[ThePman]

I squat three to five times a week and don't find it to be a problem.

[TonganTerror]

I squat three to five times a week and don't find it to be a problem.

Are you squatting to total failure Pman as I think its more of the bodybuilder style training that is gonna give you the bad doms would you agree??

I get terrible two day burn train legs on a wed thurs is bearable friday is sometimes office bound :pfft: :pfft:

[ThePman]

I do singles up to something heavy for the day then clock back 20kg or so and do singles, doubles, or triples as I feel like it. Sometimes I do a set of 10 or two instead.

But short answer, no, not doing anything remotely bodybuilder-like.

[oldfella]

Taken on some advice posted on here a while ago, I've been squatting using compression pants. Doesn't remove the DOMs entirely, but sure as heck reduces them.

Agree with MK, if any muscle set is gonna give you the most grief it's legs.

[TonganTerror]

oooo and triceps oldfella ouch lol oh and traps

I think because the legs are walked on all day and take such a beating through daily routine that when we train them they need an extra hard beating and being such a big muscle group they take quite some training to grow and can endure tremendous amounts of work!!

[tomsammce]

your legs/glutes are your biggest muscle group. i think this is the simplest and most obvious answer as to why they take the longest to recover...

[ThePman]

Fun thought to toss out there:

Soreness has nothing to do with recovery.

[TonganTerror]

f*ck pman I hate it when you do that now im off to the gym deciphering that quote......

[tomsammce]

Fun thought to toss out there:

Soreness has nothing to do with recovery.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/weigh ... 90605.html

thoughts?

[Bobsta]

Like pman, I've been squating at least twice a week, rep range anywhere from 3reps to 60 reps, sometimes it could be one set, sometimes it could be 10 sets, and have'nt been sore for the last 2 years.

As pman said soreness has nothing to do with recovery nor growth :nod:

[ThePman]

Fun thought to toss out there:

Soreness has nothing to do with recovery.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/weigh ... 90605.html

thoughts?

http://www.ampedtraining.com/articles/d ... e-soreness

[tomsammce]

yeah this is true, when i look back on my own training over the years i never got sore when i made a habit of something. if you are training the same way for a long period of time you wont get sore at all, if you change your training then most of the time you will experience doms.

so when you change it up and get doms from those trainings you are not used to. could be super slow reps or lots of negatives im talking bout turning your usual training u do every day upside down.

are you getting more growth out of those trainings? assuming diet and supplementation are kept same. i dont think someone could give an answer for this... so you wouldnt really know if you are getting more growth from doms or not.

this is just something i thought of as i read this thread not something i believe in, just thought i would put it out there for discussion

[Phedder]

I squat 5x5 three times a week, light, medium, and heavy. Don't even really get DOMS after the heavy days, haven't had DOMS in my legs in maybe a month or so actually.

[PeterDolan]

I don't measure my growth etc by DOMS but I do measure my intensity by it, if I don't have DOMS then I'm pissed, if I have it for just a day, a little bit more effort is required next time

[tomsammce]

I squat 5x5 three times a week, light, medium, and heavy. Don't even really get DOMS after the heavy days, haven't had DOMS in my legs in maybe a month or so actually.

thats really only one intense workout then? 5 sets of 5 reps on a light weight is hardly even a workout... and probably medium weights wouldnt be very intense either.

[Phedder]

I squat 5x5 three times a week, light, medium, and heavy. Don't even really get DOMS after the heavy days, haven't had DOMS in my legs in maybe a month or so actually.

thats really only one intense workout then? 5 sets of 5 reps on a light weight is hardly even a workout... and probably medium weights wouldnt be very intense either.

Rest intervals get much shorter, maybe 30sec-1min max between sets. I focus more on good depth, form and explosiveness with lighter/medium weights. Still a work out.

[PeterDolan]

I squat 5x5 three times a week, light, medium, and heavy. Don't even really get DOMS after the heavy days, haven't had DOMS in my legs in maybe a month or so actually.

thats really only one intense workout then? 5 sets of 5 reps on a light weight is hardly even a workout... and probably medium weights wouldnt be very intense either.

Gotta remember that PL/strength works off different principles than BB and it works the CNS a lot more

[train hard]

legs are the largest and strongest muscles in the body they take the heaviest overload and will take longer to recover add on that you have to use them to walk around on afterwards and you can understand why 70% percent of your average gym member dont even bother training legs! or only give a half ass effort. If you are sore for a couple of days afterwards give yourself a big pat on the back you got the job done :clap:

[Phedder]

I squat 5x5 three times a week, light, medium, and heavy. Don't even really get DOMS after the heavy days, haven't had DOMS in my legs in maybe a month or so actually.

thats really only one intense workout then? 5 sets of 5 reps on a light weight is hardly even a workout... and probably medium weights wouldnt be very intense either.

Gotta remember that PL/strength works off different principles than BB and it works the CNS a lot more

Very true. I'm going for strength at the moment. Not cool when you see guys 10-15kg lighter lifting more haha.