Doping Ban

[nate225]

From the Sports Tribunal:

MEDIA RELEASE

17 August 2010

Sports Tribunal suspends Powerlifter for refusing to provide a sample

The Sports Tribunal has suspended Khalid Slaimanrel from participating in sport because of an anti-doping violation. Mr Slaimanrel refused to provide a specimen for drug testing during an in competition test at a powerlifting event on 28 November 2009.

The New Zealand Powerlifting Federation made an application to the Sports Tribunal for Mr Slaimanrel’s provisional suspension on 16 June 2010. He was provisionally suspended by the Sports Tribunal on 22 June. On 12 August, The Tribunal heard the substantive anti-doping proceedings brought by Drug Free Sport New Zealand (DFS) and issued its decision on 13 August.

Mr Slaimanrel admitted the violation. He stated that he only participated in the competition for fun and did not intend to participate in future powerlifting competitions. He also stated he intended to compete in bodybuilding and believed that any period of suspension imposed by the Tribunal would not prevent him from doing so. The Tribunal warned him that any period of suspension it imposed here would also apply to any sporting body that is a signatory to the World Anti-Doping Code.

The usual sanction for such a violation is two years’ ineligibility (suspension), commencing from the date of provisional suspension. However, DFS acknowledged that there had been a period of delay between Mr Slaimanrel’s refusal to take the test and their notification to Mr Slaimanrel that they were going to pursue the matter before the Tribunal. The delay was the consequence of consideration of some other issues that could not be attributed to Mr Slaimanrel. The Tribunal considered that the sanction should be reduced by 3 months to take into account the period of delay.

The Sports Tribunal therefore suspended Khalid Slaimanrel from participating in sport until 22

March 2012.

Khalid seems to be correct re: his ability to compete in BBing, as it appears none of the major federations now subscribe to the WADA code.

[soundsgood]

What??? You mean the 140kg 20 year old is using gear? Never would have guessed. :pfft:

[nate225]

What??? You mean the 140kg 20 year old is using gear? Never would have guessed. :pfft:

It doesn't say that anywhere in the decision...... just that he refused to take a test! :grin: That said it's the same outcome, which isn't really any outcome if he doesn't want to play PLing anyway, he just gets on with his BBing.

No winners here, just lots of time & resources wasted that would have been better invested in other NZPF lifters. Good to see NZPF sticking to their line re: WADA testing (while NZFBB screams "too hard"!!! :nod:).

[goku_kakarot77]

there is more important things to worry about, as for gear lol i think it is very common in the sport, i have no idea why this is posted up

[Roidzilla]

LOL @ khalids brother ^^^^^

[goku_kakarot77]

LOL @ khalids brother ^^^^^

yeah does the whole world need to know?

[jimjim83]

there is more important things to worry about, as for gear lol i think it is very common in the sport, i have no idea why this is posted up

I agree. Nate why are you posting stuff like this post the important things like politics........ :shock: :pfft:

[Old Bull]

there is more important things to worry about, as for gear lol i think it is very common in the sport,

So you are saying all powerlifters are on the gear?

[tinytraps]

Was wondering when it would become official. Oh well onwards and upwards!

[Viking Power]

there is more important things to worry about, as for gear lol i think it is very common in the sport, i have no idea why this is posted up

NZPF has these strict rules in place and every competitor knows this it ain't a secret brother.

NZPF is strongly against taking short cuts / or when people do not want to take the tests....(old story nothing to hide nothing to worry about) and I think it is good that their are examples made when caught because it keeps those sorts off people out off a organization that's trying to keep things fair and clean.

You are told what the outcome will be if you get caught or refuse to take the test before signing up to DF program which is a must if you want to complete in NZPF.

There are other organizations these people can enter in which it is fine to take short cuts, I have no worries with that either it makes it an even playing for them in that organization and that's great stay within the guide lines or get embarrassed.

VP

[Viking Power]

there is more important things to worry about, as for gear lol i think it is very common in the sport, i have no idea why this is posted up

NZPF has these strict rules in place and every competitor knows this it ain't a secret brother.

NZPF is strongly against taking short cuts / or when people do not want to take the tests....(old story nothing to hide nothing to worry about) and I think it is good that their are examples made when caught because it keeps those sorts off people out off a organization that's trying to keep things fair and clean.

You are told what the outcome will be if you get caught or refuse to take the test before signing up to DF program which is a must if you want to complete in NZPF.

There are other organizations these people can enter in which it is fine to take short cuts, I have no worries with that either it makes it an even playing for them in that organization and that's great stay within the guide lines or get embarrassed.

VP

[nate225]

there is more important things to worry about, as for gear lol i think it is very common in the sport, i have no idea why this is posted up

AAS use in NZ Powerlifting is far from common, in fact I would venture as far to say that NZPF would be one of the cleanest PLing feds in the world at the present time. They have managed this by maintaining a strict WADA compliant in competition & out of competition testing programme alongside education sessions for their athletes.

In this case Khalid made a bad choice and unfortunately it mars the NZPF stats as he is recorded as a banned "powerlifter"!!!

LOL @ khalids brother ^^^^^

yeah does the whole world need to know?

It's actually public forum anyway as the decision & media release is listed on the Sport Tribunal website http://www.sportstribunal.org.nz/decisi ... index.html

As an aside I have absolutely no problem with athletes / people choosing to use AAS or PED's. It is entirely a moral decision that they are entitled to make. HOWEVER, when athletes using AAS / PED's choose to enter a tested federation they are cheating 'clean' athletes from having the opportunity to compete on a level playing field. There are plenty of options for users, they shouldn't have to even go near tested comps - and if they do, they do so at their own peril.

[Riccardo]

I really don't see why this needed to be posted up? I couldn't give two shits to be honest. The reality is sure NZPF may be one of the cleanest federations in the world but there are definitely people competing at the top level who are using PEDs, to suggest otherwise is just naive.

Hell, just looking through recent annual reports there have been suspensions for diuretics, AAS and cannabanoids in powerlifting and those are only the ones that were caught! not to mention most serious competitors who are using are well aware of how long certain drugs take to exist the system before a meet as well as GH which is near impossible to test for.

I agree that natural comps should be exactly that however the reality is athletes using PEDs are always gona compete in tested comps otherwise there would be no need for testing in the first place. Some will get busted and some will refuse to supply a sample for whatever reason but the man has accepted the consequences of refusing to supply a sample so I really couldn't care less.

[Pseudonym]

I think Nate's post certainly has a place here. It's news, and it's relevant to powerlifters, of which we have quite a few. :wink:

[goku_kakarot77]

I really don't see why this needed to be posted up? I couldn't give two shits to be honest. The reality is sure NZPF may be one of the cleanest federations in the world but there are definitely people competing at the top level who are using PEDs, to suggest otherwise is just naive.

Hell, just looking through recent annual reports there have been suspensions for diuretics, AAS and cannabanoids in powerlifting and those are only the ones that were caught! not to mention most serious competitors who are using are well aware of how long certain drugs take to exist the system before a meet as well as GH which is near impossible to test for.

I agree that natural comps should be exactly that however the reality is athletes using PEDs are always gona compete in tested comps otherwise there would be no need for testing in the first place. Some will get busted and some will refuse to supply a sample for whatever reason but the man has accepted the consequences of refusing to supply a sample so I really couldn't care less.

totally agreed

[bambam]

Why not post it up? It is a powerlifting and bodybuilding forum....I found it interesting and therefore had a read... If YOU "couldnt give two shits" then don't read it or contribute. \:D/

[TonganTerror]

bambam your pic would make a sweet t shirt lol.

I think it has a place here and is quite relevant, I for one didnt realise the seriousness with which the NZPF took AAS use and reading this sort of article makes me think If I were using AAS just how it affects the other lifters who are lifting natural and therefore making one think seriously before entering a tested comp, as has been said plenty of untested federations to enter whom others lifting on a level playing field, I find it interesting how others "dont give a shit" whether its posted or not yet continue to follow the thread and comment if you dont care dont enter the thread.....

[bambam]

Cheers TT, You got it in one there :clap:

[nate225]

I really don't see why this needed to be posted up? I couldn't give two shits to be honest.

Strang how you felt the need to comment then..... :pfft:

The reality is sure NZPF may be one of the cleanest federations in the world but there are definitely people competing at the top level who are using PEDs, to suggest otherwise is just naive.

Hell, just looking through recent annual reports there have been suspensions for diuretics, AAS and cannabanoids in powerlifting and those are only the ones that were caught! not to mention most serious competitors who are using are well aware of how long certain drugs take to exist the system before a meet as well as GH which is near impossible to test for.

Agree re: PLing globally, even in tested feds (IPF), there are hundereds of bans for AAS/PED's in the affiliated feds every year & tens of bans in IPF international comps. Hell almost the entire Russian team failed one year! :nod:

Reality is that in NZPF there has only been 4 bans in the last 5 years despite a reasonably good in competition & out of competition testing programme. Interestingly all four were from Auckland & the last two were both bodybuilders! :grin:

I agree that natural comps should be exactly that however the reality is athletes using PEDs are always gona compete in tested comps otherwise there would be no need for testing in the first place. Some will get busted and some will refuse to supply a sample for whatever reason but the man has accepted the consequences of refusing to supply a sample so I really couldn't care less.

Valid opinion Riccardo, as is mine which summarised is:

Using AAS / PED's = a moral decision / personal choice

Competing in a tested federation when using AAS / PED's = CHEATING

[La Roccia]

Mr K did not even complete one lift on the day he was not strong enough.

He did not complete a squat becnh or deadlift - started too heavy.

I guess all the shit got to his brains and he thought he was stronger than he really was.

Keep drugs out of Powerlifting.

[BarBrother]

Its pretty common knowledge to be competitive on the world stage you have to be enhanced. But if you " are just doing it for fun" then there are plenty of natural Pl in NZ that you are tarnishing while you have your fun. And what a bout the people who lost to this druged up lifter who were lifting natural. Im sure you have had all the fun ur eva gunna have in PL!

but the man has accepted the consequences of refusing to supply a sample so I really couldn't care less.

If only "the man" accepted the rules of the NZPF and we wouldnt have this problem in the first place.

If your on drugs, fabulous. Im glad you have made that personal decision, that is your right.

It isnt your right to tarnish other peoples reputation with that choice.

[nate225]

Mr K did not even complete one lift on the day he was not strong enough.

He did not complete a squat becnh or deadlift - started too heavy.

I guess all the shit got to his brains and he thought he was stronger than he really was.

Keep drugs out of Powerlifting.

I'm not ragging on Khalid himself, he's a young guy & made a mistake.

Let's be fair we've all made bad choices in our younger days. Hopefully it serves as a lesson for others considering the same thing.

If you want to use gear & compete in PLing, go compete in CAPO comps. Seriously, they have no testing & the Queensland crew seem like a reasonable bunch of guys.

[ali g]

Its pretty common knowledge to be competitive on the world stage you have to be enhanced.

please dont make assumptions like this as there are nz powerlifters who have successfully competed at this level and have done so being un-enhanced.

but i do totally agree with the rest of your comment... it is up to the individual athlete to decide if they want to take sports enhancing drugs - but they need to choose to compete in a non-tested federation and leave the tested federations for those athletes to compete in that pride themselves on being drug-free.

[michaelk]

There are plenty of options for users, they shouldn't have to even go near tested comps - and if they do, they do so at their own peril.

I'm pretty ignorant to the PL scene as a whole, from your statement above - are there non tested shows in NZ as an option that he could have entered?

[nate225]

There are plenty of options for users, they shouldn't have to even go near tested comps - and if they do, they do so at their own peril.

I'm pretty ignorant to the PL scene as a whole, from your statement above - are there non tested shows in NZ as an option that he could have entered?

Most large comps in NZL are NZPF competitions, which equals testing.

Novice comps don't require NZPF membership so it is an option to compete in these alone, and not be subject to testing. However the PLers that run these are all NZPF affiliated so I wouldn't expect a warm reception for known AAS/PED's users! :grin:

There are quite a few club lifts around the traps, often run by gyms and not affiliated with any Federation - kind of turn up & lift comps, similar to the bench press you held, but usually aligned with PLing rules.

For big comps - e.g. State Titles & Nationals an 'enhanced' lifter would be best to compete in Aussie (with CAPO) or if they had they $$ in some of the American / European comps (far too many federations now, some good, others rubbish).

You thinking of hanging your thong & razor up big fella?! :grin: