Blood Results

[Pete_S]

I've just had bloods done so will post up results when i get them in a day or so.

Urine sample contained protein and traces of blood so not looking forward to receiving the official script from the docs :pray:

[EMC]

keep us updated!

[nate225]

I've just had bloods done so will post up results when i get them in a day or so.

Urine sample contained protein and traces of blood so not looking forward to receiving the official script from the docs :pray:

Ouch!

From my limited understanding the urine test is a better indicator of renal damage than the blood tests as creatinine levels are pushed up by increased muscle mass (you qualify here! :grin: ), therefore often indicating renal damage that doesn't exist. The estimated GFR will also indicate damage if creatinine is out of whack with norm reference groups.

However protein in the urine means kidneys are taking a beating.

[Grover]

:pfft:

prepare yourself for digital prostrate examination!!!

:shock:

[jimjim83]

:pfft:

prepare yourself for digital prostrate examination!!!

:shock:

Or DEATH!!

[Pete_S]

Ok so picked up results from Docs today and he said he wants to see me next week to discuss....

From the results, abnormalties were;

Serum Urea Level 9.5 mmol/l (High)

Serum Creatinine 122 umol/l (High)

ALT/SGPT Serum Level 98 iu/l (High)

LDL Cholesterol 6.08 mmol/l (High)

HDL Cholesterol 0.1 mmol/l (Low)

Serum Cholesterol 7 mmol/l (High)

Red Blood Cell Distribution Width 15.1% (High)

Haematocrit 0.53 l/l (High)

Red Blood Cell Count 6.37 10*12/l (High)

Haemoglobin estimation 17.7 g/dl (High)

Will do a bit of digging around to understand a bit better but would be interested to know what you guys think.

[genetic freek]

MNZ will tell you what they are.

[docroids]

Man thats one rap sheet i was on cycle for over two years straight and all i got was low white blood cells, high cholesterol and high bp and that made come off but i wasn't taking any supps as you don't know they put in that crap Hope you get sorted quick :pray:

[musclenz]

Ok so picked up results from Docs today and he said he wants to see me next week to discuss....

From the results, abnormalties were;

Serum Urea Level 9.5 mmol/l (High)

Serum Creatinine 122 umol/l (High)

ALT/SGPT Serum Level 98 iu/l (High)

LDL Cholesterol 6.08 mmol/l (High)

HDL Cholesterol 0.1 mmol/l (Low)

Serum Cholesterol 7 mmol/l (High)

Red Blood Cell Distribution Width 15.1% (High)

Haematocrit 0.53 l/l (High)

Red Blood Cell Count 6.37 10*12/l (High)

Haemoglobin estimation 17.7 g/dl (High)

Will do a bit of digging around to understand a bit better but would be interested to know what you guys think.

Haaaa Pete its pretty obvious you are doing a bit of naughty stuff LOL Will look at a few things. Typically Creatinine (protein) is elevated in a BBer with additional muscle mass, intense training, & diet high in proteins & results in increased levels in this & ALT etc. Creatinine has a range of (50-110 umol/L) so you are a bit over the top. I was 109 on my last test & Doc made mention of it but because of my tradition of this & my BBing lifestyle he does not worry too much.ALT is another protein value (0-55IU/L). You are quite high on this one but expect its a bit the same as above. Dont know much about Urea as not something I test for. Ok it might be time to look at your BFlevels & check diet with LDL (Bad Chlor) up there but once again we need cholesterol to produce testosterone so I think the medics can get a bit paranoid about this. Your RBC & Haematocrit is high. If you are on something like Boldenone this will elevate these. You might have to come clean on that one

mnz the Shaman but no Endocrinologist :grin:

[Pete_S]

Cheers MNZ ... i was awaiting your valuable input

BP was 158/88 - bit on the high side which could also be contributing to the high creatinine and urea counts.

You mention the Boldenone (don't use the stuff) but I suspect the high red blood levels could be the current cycle including Masteron at 700mg pw.

[Pete_S]

Man thats one rap sheet i was on cycle for over two years straight and all i got was low white blood cells, high cholesterol and high bp and that made come off but i wasn't taking any supps as you don't know they put in that crap Hope you get sorted quick :pray:

Really? What sort of doses/meds were you running in the two years?

[musclenz]

Cheers MNZ ... i was awaiting your valuable input

BP was 158/88 - bit on the high side which could also be contributing to the high creatinine and urea counts.

You mention the Boldenone (don't use the stuff) but I suspect the high red blood levels could be the current cycle including Masteron at 700mg pw.

Ummm I dont believe that Masteron works on RBC more in hydration in the muscle. However I believe that many AAS do contribute to increased RBC but this tends to be dose dependant. ie the higher the dose the more likely this is to occur. Yeah BP is getting up into mild hypertension but is not excessive. I would say you could turn this down with additional cardio & a reduction in BF. Are you on a bulk Pete?

[docroids]

Hi Pete i would keep the test at 500mgs per week then if i ran another compound it would maybe go up but i would only run tren and mast, I dont use orals and only take nolv when needed so maybe im lucky but i needed the test for hrt. Every time i would have a blood test my Doc would say i was doing well for my age that all i take is losec but there was always something would show up on the tests that he said was unusual but not a concern Been off for about 6 months and my results were good :shock:

[gymhoe]

hahaha still dodging the bullet doc :clap: pm me

[nate225]

Thats almost the complete list of blood work bad sides! :grin:

Creatinine often high with increased muscle mass, but can be an indicator of renal damage. Confirmed by protein in the urine - you can tick that box.

Urea often goes high on a high protein diet.

Raised ALT not good!

RBC increased count often due to bold / anap etc which raise this (and were used by endurance athletes for this purpose prior to EPO / Cera). May increase risk of cardiovascular event / stroke = bad!

Low HDL often a result of AAS use, often nandrolones for some reason. LDL will rise with decreased HDL.

The good news is that all of this should resolve with a break Pete.

More shamanism - no medical quals here either!! :grin:

[musclenz]

Thats almost the complete list of blood work bad sides! :grin:

Creatinine often high with increased muscle mass, but can be an indicator of renal damage. Confirmed by protein in the urine - you can tick that box.

Urea often goes high on a high protein diet.

Raised ALT not good!

RBC increased count often due to bold / anap etc which raise this (and were used by endurance athletes for this purpose prior to EPO / Cera). May increase risk of cardiovascular event / stroke = bad!

Low HDL often a result of AAS use, often nandrolones for some reason. LDL will rise with decreased HDL.

The good news is that all of this should resolve with a break Pete.

More shamanism - no medical quals here either!! :grin:

Good points Nate. He would be wise to tone things down a bit & look at diet & cardio with the view to retesting in 6-8 weeks. I would expect his Doc to go somewhere there.

[jimjim83]

Thats almost the complete list of blood work bad sides! :grin:

Creatinine often high with increased muscle mass, but can be an indicator of renal damage. Confirmed by protein in the urine - you can tick that box.

Urea often goes high on a high protein diet.

Raised ALT not good!

RBC increased count often due to bold / anap etc which raise this (and were used by endurance athletes for this purpose prior to EPO / Cera). May increase risk of cardiovascular event / stroke = bad!

Low HDL often a result of AAS use, often nandrolones for some reason. LDL will rise with decreased HDL.

The good news is that all of this should resolve with a break Pete.

More shamanism - no medical quals here either!! :grin:

Good points Nate. He would be wise to tone things down a bit & look at diet & cardio with the view to retesting in 6-8 weeks. I would expect his Doc to go somewhere there.

Pussies!!

The only way to fix it is to take more.

Im a doctor and know what Im talking about. \:D/

[Pete_S]

Thats almost the complete list of blood work bad sides! :grin:

Creatinine often high with increased muscle mass, but can be an indicator of renal damage. Confirmed by protein in the urine - you can tick that box.

Urea often goes high on a high protein diet.

Raised ALT not good!

RBC increased count often due to bold / anap etc which raise this (and were used by endurance athletes for this purpose prior to EPO / Cera). May increase risk of cardiovascular event / stroke = bad!

Low HDL often a result of AAS use, often nandrolones for some reason. LDL will rise with decreased HDL.

The good news is that all of this should resolve with a break Pete.

More shamanism - no medical quals here either!! :grin:

Spot on Nate....you are on the money with that diagnosis

Doc wants me to "change lifestyle" and have bloods redone in 8 weeks.

So...what that means is a PCT (ouch/yuck)

Going to wait 14 days for the Cyponiate to clear then;

2500ius of HCG EOD for 8 shots (Total 20,000ius)

50mgs Clomid twice a day for 30 days

25mg Nolva for 30 days

1000ius Vitamin-E ED

Tribulus and Horny Goat Weed as well for good measure

Will run GH at 10ius on workout days just to stay nice and full (so i don't break down like a weeping women whn i look in the mirror)

If bloods are still screwed up in 8 weeks will be off to a renal specialist and likely biopsy

[Pete_S]

Thats almost the complete list of blood work bad sides! :grin:

Creatinine often high with increased muscle mass, but can be an indicator of renal damage. Confirmed by protein in the urine - you can tick that box.

Urea often goes high on a high protein diet.

Raised ALT not good!

RBC increased count often due to bold / anap etc which raise this (and were used by endurance athletes for this purpose prior to EPO / Cera). May increase risk of cardiovascular event / stroke = bad!

Low HDL often a result of AAS use, often nandrolones for some reason. LDL will rise with decreased HDL.

The good news is that all of this should resolve with a break Pete.

More shamanism - no medical quals here either!! :grin:

Good points Nate. He would be wise to tone things down a bit & look at diet & cardio with the view to retesting in 6-8 weeks. I would expect his Doc to go somewhere there.

Thanks mate - have principally decided to revert back to the old chinese medicine ways to shock the body back to normality. I'll be looking at cardio and diet as well - which have been rather unbalanced

[Mrbig]

Thats almost the complete list of blood work bad sides! :grin:

Creatinine often high with increased muscle mass, but can be an indicator of renal damage. Confirmed by protein in the urine - you can tick that box.

Urea often goes high on a high protein diet.

Raised ALT not good!

RBC increased count often due to bold / anap etc which raise this (and were used by endurance athletes for this purpose prior to EPO / Cera). May increase risk of cardiovascular event / stroke = bad!

Low HDL often a result of AAS use, often nandrolones for some reason. LDL will rise with decreased HDL.

The good news is that all of this should resolve with a break Pete.

More shamanism - no medical quals here either!! :grin:

Good points Nate. He would be wise to tone things down a bit & look at diet & cardio with the view to retesting in 6-8 weeks. I would expect his Doc to go somewhere there.

Thanks mate - have principally decided to revert back to the old chinese medicine ways to shock the body back to normality. I'll be looking at cardio and diet as well - which have been rather unbalanced

Hay pete just curious as to what doses you have been running??