Jack3d under the spotlight....(Geranamine)

[Hennie]

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/content/le ... ative-view

What is banned there I guess will be banned here.... :shock:

[fudoc5]

huh,g$%kin fda pricks, ah well luckly i just stocked up on this stuff :wink:

[Chemo]

SOaB. Im glad i still got some geranamine caps shelved too. This is gonna stop a lot of products getting into nz.

A heap of USP products, quake.

Sigh

[fit2fight]

Apparently there is a difference

http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Health-condition-categories/Weight-management/Synthetic-geranium-substance-raises-ephedra-like-red-flags

[ThePman]

I laugh like hell any time people compare something to ephedra as if that's dangerous in the first place.

Turns out that fatasses that ignore all the warnings on the bottle and take half the pills at once are probably going to die no matter what?

Funny how they're willing to regulate the hell out of any supplement that gets popular without any evidence it's dangerous, but you can still buy aspirin OTC.

[ThePman]

I laugh like hell any time people compare something to ephedra as if that's dangerous in the first place.

Turns out that fatasses that ignore all the warnings on the bottle and take half the pills at once are probably going to die no matter what?

Funny how they're willing to regulate the hell out of any supplement that gets popular without any evidence it's dangerous, but you can still buy aspirin OTC.

[Peachy]

What is wrong with aspirin?? :shock:

[ThePman]

What is wrong with aspirin?? :shock:

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30#nsaid

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715832

Being a bit dramatic there, but the point is that you can trace a real hard number to serious problems caused by OTC meds, but they're perfectly legal and unregulated.

Whereas supplements don't have to demonstrate any real evidence of danger or mortality to stir up this kind of moral panic and be banned.

[knock knock]

Better stock up I guess...

[Riccardo]

What is wrong with aspirin?? :shock:

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30#nsaid

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715832

Being a bit dramatic there, but the point is that you can trace a real hard number to serious problems caused by OTC meds, but they're perfectly legal and unregulated.

Whereas supplements don't have to demonstrate any real evidence of danger or mortality to stir up this kind of moral panic and be banned.

This^ every drug has side effects its just a risk/benefit analysis.

hell, the the number one cause of acute liver failure in the USA is acetaminophen (paracetamol) poisoning. :roll:

[Flex]

People are getting their knickers in a twist over nothing. The guy that wrote that article can't read and now it's all over the place that geranamine is going to be banned.

The product was Germanium not geranamine:

Consumer Reports 12 Most Dangerous Supplements: (joke)

* Aconite

* Bitter Orange

* Chaparral

* Colloidal Silver

* Coltsfoot

* Comfrey

* Country Mallow

* Germanium

* Greater Celadine

* Kava

* Lobelia

* Yohimbe

http://www.consumerreports.org/health/n ... /index.htm

http://www.thirdage.com/news/dietary-su ... n_8-3-2010

[Pete_S]

Banning this would be a shame as in my experience it is the best pre-workout supplement around at the moment (on a par with Dorian Yates NOX Pump)

[Timbo]

I've not tried others, I got a free sample of this and I haven't looked back. Works a treat for me... amps me up something chronic haha :grin:

[Outkast]

They better not ban this stuff! Took me a very long time to find a pre-workout that works well for me... I will be very sad to see this go if it does!

[tomsammce]

What is wrong with aspirin?? :shock:

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30#nsaid

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715832

Being a bit dramatic there, but the point is that you can trace a real hard number to serious problems caused by OTC meds, but they're perfectly legal and unregulated.

Whereas supplements don't have to demonstrate any real evidence of danger or mortality to stir up this kind of moral panic and be banned.

OTC meds or drugs what have you are dispensed from a pharmacy where there is a pharmacist and technician above the assistants who is qualified to gve intrusction on dosage and dangers not by some guy in a supplement store who earns 12 bucks an hour and tells you what he read in a flex magazine.

[drizzt]

I see a couple of Boks tested positive for methylhexaneamine. Looking at bans, too...

The AB's are keeping an eye on it as well.

Not much longer until it's completely banned, given the recent attention?

[Darkmanx]

What is wrong with aspirin?? :shock:

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30#nsaid

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715832

Being a bit dramatic there, but the point is that you can trace a real hard number to serious problems caused by OTC meds, but they're perfectly legal and unregulated.

Whereas supplements don't have to demonstrate any real evidence of danger or mortality to stir up this kind of moral panic and be banned.

OTC meds or drugs what have you are dispensed from a pharmacy where there is a pharmacist and technician above the assistants who is qualified to gve intrusction on dosage and dangers not by some guy in a supplement store who earns 12 bucks an hour and tells you what he read in a flex magazine.

Not to mention when you buy supplements from a supplement store you can possibly get a nr to where buy roids too. LOL