anti estrogen/ sustanon

[ronnie k]

hi, i have just started a cycle of sustanon 250. i am taking two a week and will increase to three next week, when do i need to look at taking some anti estrogen pills.thanks

[startinfromscratch]

dude, dont you think you should have sorted this before starting? as most ppl will say.

have you got one on hand?

if yes, what?

what have you got atm for pct?

need more info brah

[nate225]

hi, i have just started a cycle of sustanon 250. i am taking two a week and will increase to three next week, when do i need to look at taking some anti estrogen pills.thanks

LMAO - for someone taking 750mg of test a week you seem a little naive..... :nod:

Post some more info & hopefully someone like MuscleNZ takes pity on you and answers your question in an informed manner.

[startinfromscratch]

hi, i have just started a cycle of sustanon 250. i am taking two a week and will increase to three next week, when do i need to look at taking some anti estrogen pills.thanks

LMAO - for someone taking 750mg of test a week you seem a little naive..... :nod:

Post some more info & hopefully someone like MuscleNZ takes pity on you and answers your question in an informed manner.

are you insinuating my answer was not in a good manner brah? :grin: i thought i did well to resist the strong urge to flame him, but i couldnt offer any insight at all without more info.

the reality is, all the reccomendations in the world wont be the determining factor, it will more likely be what he has access to.

but yes, all this shit should be sorted, and in hand before any pinning takes place....

2c

[nate225]

hi, i have just started a cycle of sustanon 250. i am taking two a week and will increase to three next week, when do i need to look at taking some anti estrogen pills.thanks

LMAO - for someone taking 750mg of test a week you seem a little naive..... :nod:

Post some more info & hopefully someone like MuscleNZ takes pity on you and answers your question in an informed manner.

are you insinuating my answer was not in a good manner brah? :grin: i thought i did well to resist the strong urge to flame him, but i couldnt offer any insight at all without more info.

the reality is, all the reccomendations in the world wont be the determining factor, it will more likely be what he has access to.

but yes, all this shit should be sorted, and in hand before any pinning takes place....

2c

LOL SFS - Nope I thought you were spot on.

My post simply highlighted too many guys (maybe the Ronnie included?) are quick to jump on the gear (and usually more gear than necessary) without thinking it though and dotting the i's & crossing the t's! (e.g. as you highlight PCT).

[ronnie k]

hi, i have just started a cycle of sustanon 250. i am taking two a week and will increase to three next week, when do i need to look at taking some anti estrogen pills.thanks

LMAO - for someone taking 750mg of test a week you seem a little naive..... :nod:

Post some more info & hopefully someone like MuscleNZ takes pity on you and answers your question in an informed manner.

thanks for your HELP Not ive asked many people and all have different answers so i was told to ask on here but no one on here seems to know either. all i wanted to know was if it should be taken at the end of the cycle as a few people have said or during!!!!

[ronnie k]

dude, dont you think you should have sorted this before starting? as most ppl will say.

have you got one on hand?

if yes, what?

what have you got atm for pct?

need more info brah

Ive got novadex for the anti est and am on my second week of the sus, so far had one then two this week. So many people are saying take the anti est now and some say after the cycle???

[HumanPerformance]

The general rule of thumb is take anti estrogens (AE) or aromatase inhibitors only when and if they are needed. This is because in taking them will effect the overall muscle gain you experience on the cycle. Although 750mg of sus a week is quite alot some lucky individuals can get by on this with little estrogen related sides (e.g maybe just water retention ) this is especially true if you are young and very lean. But most individuals will start to notice itchy and or sensitive nipples whilst on this amount after a few weeks.

If this is your first cycle you should just stick with 500mg a week and see how you go. If you start to to experience any gyno related side effects then start taking your nolvedex. The point is though you can probably get by with good gains on 500mg a week with no estrogen side effects. But once you increase it to 750mg you will most likely need the nolva which will lessen the muscle you get from the sus. Save the nolva for when you come off as part of your PCT and just stick to 2 sus a week . You will get less side effects and save money.

[startinfromscratch]

The general rule of thumb is take anti estrogens (AE) or aromatase inhibitors only when and if they are needed. This is because in taking them will effect the overall muscle gain you experience on the cycle. Although 750mg of sus a week is quite alot some lucky individuals can get by on this with little estrogen related sides (e.g maybe just water retention ) this is especially true if you are young and very lean. But most individuals will start to notice itchy and or sensitive nipples whilst on this amount after a few weeks.

If this is your first cycle you should just stick with 500mg a week and see how you go. If you start to to experience any gyno related side effects then start taking your nolvedex. The point is though you can probably get by with good gains on 500mg a week with no estrogen side effects. But once you increase it to 750mg you will most likely need the nolva which will lessen the muscle you get from the sus. Save the nolva for when you come off as part of your PCT and just stick to 2 sus a week . You will get less side effects and save money.

good post!

nolva is better than nothing for surez, though from memory it hinders igf-1, so is not ideal. also, as already noted, an actual AI would be better to have on hand, but only taking it if estro related sides appear, e.g itchy nipps.

something like adex, or aromasin would be good, or femera will kill any estro issues you have quick smart.

also good advice there regarding dosage, 500/wk will reduce your risk of sides, and still have heapsa gaining potential if you nail diet and training.

good luck dude.

[ronnie k]

The general rule of thumb is take anti estrogens (AE) or aromatase inhibitors only when and if they are needed. This is because in taking them will effect the overall muscle gain you experience on the cycle. Although 750mg of sus a week is quite alot some lucky individuals can get by on this with little estrogen related sides (e.g maybe just water retention ) this is especially true if you are young and very lean. But most individuals will start to notice itchy and or sensitive nipples whilst on this amount after a few weeks.

If this is your first cycle you should just stick with 500mg a week and see how you go. If you start to to experience any gyno related side effects then start taking your nolvedex. The point is though you can probably get by with good gains on 500mg a week with no estrogen side effects. But once you increase it to 750mg you will most likely need the nolva which will lessen the muscle you get from the sus. Save the nolva for when you come off as part of your PCT and just stick to 2 sus a week . You will get less side effects and save money.

Thankyou very much for your reply and advise,its refreshing to know there are still people who are willing to help rather than just be rude,i really do appreciate your advice and will do just that thanks again

[ronnie k]

The general rule of thumb is take anti estrogens (AE) or aromatase inhibitors only when and if they are needed. This is because in taking them will effect the overall muscle gain you experience on the cycle. Although 750mg of sus a week is quite alot some lucky individuals can get by on this with little estrogen related sides (e.g maybe just water retention ) this is especially true if you are young and very lean. But most individuals will start to notice itchy and or sensitive nipples whilst on this amount after a few weeks.

If this is your first cycle you should just stick with 500mg a week and see how you go. If you start to to experience any gyno related side effects then start taking your nolvedex. The point is though you can probably get by with good gains on 500mg a week with no estrogen side effects. But once you increase it to 750mg you will most likely need the nolva which will lessen the muscle you get from the sus. Save the nolva for when you come off as part of your PCT and just stick to 2 sus a week . You will get less side effects and save money.

Thanks for your comments they are much appreciated!!

good post!

nolva is better than nothing for surez, though from memory it hinders igf-1, so is not ideal. also, as already noted, an actual AI would be better to have on hand, but only taking it if estro related sides appear, e.g itchy nipps.

something like adex, or aromasin would be good, or femera will kill any estro issues you have quick smart.

also good advice there regarding dosage, 500/wk will reduce your risk of sides, and still have heapsa gaining potential if you nail diet and training.

good luck dude.

[thatwaslight]

Testing the waters is the only way you will know mate, pyramid up your dose and see how you respond.

It's all very well to give advice from a text book or isteriods.com but everyone responds differently to AAS. I have never had any side effects other than increased hair growth and a bit of testicular atrophy, not the horror acne, balding, gyno and sides the internet suggests you may experience. In saying this i also know people who get acne on 500mg a week; so walking the walk is the only way you will find out but as others suggest do so with caution.

Good luck

[Specter]

I got sides from using AAS..mostly Steak/Chicken/Fish...just couldnt avoid it... :wink: