The sumo equation

[Dr Squat]

I have this view that sumo is more techincal than most appreciate and it is done poorly by most lifters.

Generally speaking, those doing sumo would be better doing conventional.

That should fire a few of you up. :nod:

[startinfromscratch]

I have this view that sumo is more techincal than most appreciate and it is done poorly by most lifters.

Generally speaking, those doing sumo would be better doing conventional.

That should fire a few of you up. :nod:

i did a session of sumo tech with oldbull a few months back, and i gotta say, i agree with doc..

TRUE sumo is very technical, a very large % of ppl actually end up just doing a wide stance conventional pull...........

[Phedder]

I have this view that sumo is more techincal than most appreciate and it is done poorly by most lifters.

Generally speaking, those doing sumo would be better doing conventional.

That should fire a few of you up. :nod:

i did a session of sumo tech with oldbull a few months back, and i gotta say, i agree with doc..

TRUE sumo is very technical, a very large % of ppl actually end up just doing a wide stance conventional pull...........

Would either of you care to elaborate on the main differences in pulling style? Particularly the wide stance conventional pull.

[tinytraps]

Lots of people just make their stance wider and lean right over as in a conventional pull. Sumo wide stance staying relatively upright, forcing the knees out hard. A true sumo pull is more a reverse squat, where as really bad sumo is just a wide stance conv pull :pfft:

[Phedder]

Lots of people just make their stance wider and lean right over as in a conventional pull. Sumo wide stance staying relatively upright, forcing the knees out hard. A true sumo pull is more a reverse squat, where as really bad sumo is just a wide stance conv pull :pfft:

Ah, good. I stay quite upright and do the reverse squat. That's what saves my lower back, going wide stance and still leaning forward heaps would be just as bad as conventional on the lower back.

[red machine]

i reakon just get in there in pick the bastard up how ever feels good to you, when i started doin deads few years ago before i knew any thing about sumo, con etc i just picked it up con was quite hard on lower back, then tried wide, sore on hips, then went some were in the middle and it felt sweet so have stuck with it, some call it modified i think, goes well and had consistently gone up weight wise, love it, all in all its just a lifting weight off the ground find the easiest way to do it and BANG!

[tomsammce]

just grip and rip.... too much thinking going on here.

[Dr Squat]

just grip and rip.... too much thinking going on here.

I agree bro... to a point.

If you do conventional then ok as long as you keep a few simple things in mind (bar close to body, using legs, shoulders behind bar). Not quite as simple with sumo. IMHO of course.

[OnlyHuman]

[rose]

just grip and rip.... too much thinking going on here.

I agree bro... to a point.

If you do conventional then ok as long as you keep a few simple things in mind (bar close to body, using legs, shoulders behind bar). Not quite as simple with sumo. IMHO of course.

Grip and rip a bicep? An often unmentioned essential is to take tension out of the bar before lifting. Some might look to lifters such as Konstantinovs, he still takes a few moments to set up, using a technique he's refined over a long period of time? If you lift with bad technique grip and rip isn't going to help you.

Pearls:

If you are not wearing any equipment, be sure to use a narrower stance. Without the support of squat briefs or a squat suit, a wide stance will be a nightmare for your hips.

Food for thought re choosing a deadlift stance that suits you...

Many times the taller, thinner lifters are the best pullers, and they start with the bar very close to their shins. However, if you look at them from the side, they still have their shoulders behind the bar when they pull. This is just not possible to achieve with a thicker lifter.

If a thicker lifter with a large amount of body mass—whether it’s muscle or fat—were to line the bar up with his shins, he would have an impossible time getting the shoulders behind the bar. Remember, you need to pull the bar back toward you, not out and away from you. I believe many lifters look to those who have great deadlifts to see how they pull and then they try to do the same themselves. What they need to do is look to those who are built the same way that they are and have great deadlifts and follow their lead.

[Grover]

well put Rose