Pink Magic

[Chemo]

Anyone got any info on this?

I'd like to trust USP labs but this sounds way too good to be true.

I've bought some bullshit stuff in the past for shits and giggles but this just seems suspect...

[crazyfacials]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =125890543

[Chemo]

Lol, another divided argument. Good link through cheers.

Man saw it hit shotgun's shelves recently too 150 dollars!!!

[Flex]

It's amazing that some retailers will sell shit like this even after it's be shown to be a load of crap and so massively underdosed that it's not going to do anything positive unless you use about 10 times the recommended serve. A fool and his money will soon be parted but it's down to the retailers not to sell shit in a can just for a quick buck.

[Hennie]

It's amazing that some retailers will sell shit like this even after it's be shown to be a load of crap and so massively underdosed that it's not going to do anything positive unless you use about 10 times the recommended serve. A fool and his money will soon be parted but it's down to the retailers not to sell shit in a can just for a quick buck.

Well I guess it is like this with the most of the stuff (If it sounds to good............blah blah), Arimatest by (MUSCLEMEDS better known as MHP) is probably the worst I have come accross wrt claims.

From a retailers pespective:

A client wants a product and he want's you to get it for him, you tell him it's crap and he should stick to the basics (Had someone wanting CEE powder and I pointed them to Creapure, this guy already had his mind made up and there was no way of telling him CEE is not 400% stronger than mono), needles to say he went off and got it from another store and I never saw him coming back. So what do you do next time.......?

BTW....$150 for a few herbs is quite steep

[Flex]

A client wants a product and he want's you to get it for him, you tell him it's crap and he should stick to the basics (Had someone wanting CEE powder and I pointed them to Creapure, this guy already had his mind made up and there was no way of telling him CEE is not 400% stronger than mono), needles to say he went off and got it from another store and I never saw him coming back. So what do you do next time.......?

But if you sell him crap for $150 and then he

a) doesn't get any result

b) reads information like this about how shit it is

c) has his balls drop off

d) all of the above

do you think he is going to shop with you again? I hope not.

Personally I'd prefer to give the guy honest advice. If he doesn't like it and goes off to buy it somewhere else then at least my integrity is still intact and I haven't sold my soul to the esterified supplement devil.

Hopefully he'll eventually realise he was ripped off elsewhere, grow his balls back and come back to and get something that actually does what it says on the tin.

[Hennie]

Agree 100%, there are just always guys that gets sucked in and will try the next big thing after the other again and again, but as you said I guess that will have to be classified as a fool then.

I do hope the CEE guy comes back, maybe he tries Pink Magic Next

[Chemo]

Too true, I think many are after that magic pill. I know out of impatience ive tried a few bull$ht stuff MuscleMeds hexagen O___O, what a sub standard product, even trib would be better

but there are a few things that i have tried on impulse and have had some minor success with

my first halodrol was quite impressive, even the placebo effect was useful.

Pink Magic is a step to far I think, the marketing on this one was insane.

"It's amazing that some retailers will sell shit like this even after it's be shown to be a load of crap and so massively underdosed that it's not going to do anything positive unless you use about 10 times the recommended serve. A fool and his money will soon be parted but it's down to the retailers not to sell shit in a can just for a quick buck."

ahhhhhhh capitalism, the bullshit our world revolves around :3

all that being said people are loving this shit!! cant wait to see where this all goes

[Im Hungry]

where i work i see guys taking all sorts of supps - most of it is crap. the guys take it train harder than usual, eat better than usual and then when it runs out they start getting slack on their diet, go out drinking and training slackens off a bit and they are back where they were before the spent all the $$

remember inosine and vanadium from the early 90's?

this is what i think works-

protein frequency and amount 6-7 x per day

controlled carb intake

smashing yourself in the gym- doing the basics heavy, mixing it up

good sleep

lots water

creatine- though not if wanting to strip fat

some thermo to get you in the mood to go hard

sure you can do a pre workout pump formula but its all cosmetic, your legs can pump up riding the bike but that dont make em bigger- the pre workout formulas are the latest con

i read those muscle tech adverts in muscle development and often the key ingredient often turns out to be caffeine.

gaspari nutrition is putting out some real snake oil stuff

my 2c worth

[weajo196]

creatine- though not if wanting to strip fat

Don't want to hijack the thread but I find taking creatine has no adverse effect when cutting. Actually I find it to be quite beneficial, it helps to give me the extra energy when doing those hard trainings when on a calorie deficit.

[Chemo]

yeah creatine can help reduce body fat if im not mistaken, its just the water weight and bloat thats the issue

"gaspari nutrition is putting out some real snake oil stuff"

awwww man, Gaspari is one of my favs as a company!

I think a lot of the snake oil blends are to market a profitable product around the laws of different countries :\ Was gutted to hear novedex had been banned before i could even try it

[Hennie]

creatine- though not if wanting to strip fat

Don't want to hijack the thread but I find taking creatine has no adverse effect when cutting. Actually I find it to be quite beneficial, it helps to give me the extra energy when doing those hard trainings when on a calorie deficit.

Agreed, lots of people have had fat gain with creatine and dextrose formulas,but plain creatine should not contribute to fat, could be water weight.

[crazyfacials]

not sure where you get extra energy from, I take plain creatine mono

as for gaspari, I have yet to taste any protein that rivals myofusion

ps. you still can buy novedex

[Chemo]

Yuss myofusion is the shit, awesome cheap with some free vits thrown in very cool 8)

"ps. you still can buy novedex"

Cant import it anymore, and med safe will be wanting it of shelves soon ay.

[Flex]

Agree 100%, there are just always guys that gets sucked in and will try the next big thing after the other again and again, but as you said I guess that will have to be classified as a fool then.

I do hope the CEE guy comes back, maybe he tries Pink Magic Next

What's this, do my eyes deceive me? - http://www.bodybuilding.co.nz/usplabs-p ... 69cecb6bc1

BTW....$150 for a few herbs is quite steep

So $129 is a bit more reasonable for something that doesn't work....awesomeness. Gonna get huge now with my pink bits and save $21.

[Hennie]

Agree 100%, there are just always guys that gets sucked in and will try the next big thing after the other again and again, but as you said I guess that will have to be classified as a fool then.

I do hope the CEE guy comes back, maybe he tries Pink Magic Next

What's this, do my eyes deceive me? - http://www.bodybuilding.co.nz/usplabs-p ... 69cecb6bc1

BTW....$150 for a few herbs is quite steep

So $129 is a bit more reasonable for something that doesn't work....awesomeness. Gonna get huge now with my pink bits and save $21.

Detective FLEX!

Got me......, your eyes are not deceiving you,we had various requests and been getting it for people on special request at the obvious better price, up to the end where I decided to load it. I honestly anticipated something like this from you, which at the end of the day is a 100% fair question / statement I guess

[Flex]

Detective FLEX!

Got me......, your eyes are not deceiving you,we had various requests and been getting it for people on special request at the obvious better price, up to the end where I decided to load it. I honestly anticipated something like this from you, which at the end of the day is a 100% fair question / statement I guess

Someones gotta keep you on your toes. It seems to be popping up all over the place now. Something to be said for a fancy label and marketing campaign.

[Chillicat]

Ah well, Hennie's got to make a living same as the rest of us, and if people want it then he's just shooting himself in the foot not to sell it. Supply and demand and all that.

[Flex]

Ah well, Hennie's got to make a living same as the rest of us, and if people want it then he's just shooting himself in the foot not to sell it. Supply and demand and all that.

So you don't mind retailers selling you any old ***? The retailers prepared to sell fancy packaging as opposed to educating the consumer are what keeps the bearings greased of the bullshit merry go round that makes up most of the sports nut industry. Personally if I go into a store and had a store person tell me that a product that I was wanting was actually a big bunch of balls I'd appreciate it alot more than shelling out my coin on something that is mediocre or not suitable for me.

The retailers and manufacturers have a position of trust as most consumers will believe the hype and advertising in the mags and on the box. However there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of sports nut companies currently willing to put up their hands and take the bullshit out of their products.

[Chillicat]

I agree re someone actively trying to sell me stuff under false pretenses. But I'm more the kind of person who decides what I want then goes out and buys it, than someone who goes in without knowledge of what I want, and therefore gets a hard sell on a product that someone is trying to sell to me regardless of its worth.

I completely agree that if Hennie thinks its a load of crap and if someone asks him about it, then he should say so - but if people want it based on their own 'research', then why shouldn't he be the one to sell it?

You can be all virtuous about what you sell, and that's fine, nothing wrong with that, it's admirable. But you can also be homeless with no food because you don't provide what people want to buy and so don't make a buck. OK, that's a bit extreme.

I don't believe the hype about most of the supplements sold, and agree with the snake oil comment above. But on the flip side, my curiosity often gets the better of me and I still want to try some of the new things, even if I know in my head that it is in fact snake oil - and the first places I'll look are Hennie's site and Shotgun.

[Flex]

I completely agree that if Hennie thinks its a load of crap and if someone asks him about it, then he should say so - but if people want it based on their own 'research', then why shouldn't he be the one to sell it?

This is the most unusual forum conversation I've had a long time.

So next time you go to the doctor and you have an ailment you wouldn't mind if the doctor went along with the research you'd gathered on google rather than what your doctors opinion was.

I don't often come across people that would rather be sold crap than something good but I guess that's why the supps companies spend more on their magazine publishing and marketing departments than what they do on research or product development.

You can be all virtuous about what you sell, and that's fine, nothing wrong with that, it's admirable. But you can also be homeless with no food because you don't provide what people want to buy and so don't make a buck. OK, that's a bit extreme.

Yes well at least I'll have a clear conscience tonight when I go to sleep under the stars in my cardboard box.

[Chillicat]

It's not an issue I have steam coming out of my ears about, and I'm really not interested in it enough to get into an argument over it - so I'll leave you to fight it out with whoever else cares enough.

But a doctor and a supplement provider are not really comparable - I doubt that Hennie and everyone else went to uni to study for 8 years or so to learn how to sell supplements :pfft:

You're also hung up on the 'being sold stuff' and have raised it again despite me starting my last post by saying I don't agree with that (treating the customer as a passive consumer rather than an active buyer who makes their own choices). But again, I don't care enough about it to argue, so I'll let you have it if it makes you feel better :nod:

You win - yay you :clap: \:D/

[Chillicat]

Just a thought - are you also going to take on all the accupuncturists and homeopathy people purveying their wares as well, given that clinical testing has shown over and over again that the only positive effects from those so-called 'remedies' are placebo, yet they have thriving industries making money from a LOT of people who are convinced it works for me

[Flex]

You win - yay you

Awesome thanks for that.

Just a thought - are you also going to take on all the accupuncturists and homeopathy people purveying their wares as well, given that clinical testing has shown over and over again that the only positive effects from those so-called 'remedies' are placebo, yet they have thriving industries making money from a LOT of people who are convinced it works for me

I don't work in either of those industries. If I was in a position to be able to offer a professional opinion on either of them then I would.

You're also hung up on the 'being sold stuff' and have raised it again despite me starting my last post by saying I don't agree with that (treating the customer as a passive consumer rather than an active buyer who makes their own choices)

I'm not hung up on "being sold stuff". An active buyer that makes their own choices might have only done research by reading the supplement company produced Bodybuilding magazine or bullshit marketing spin.

[Chillicat]

If only everyone was like you, the world would be a better place, and we wouldn't have to go around looking at people wearing Crocs and other abominations they've been sold because they want them, even though they do nothing positive for them, only negative