Anyone ever tried importing PH's or Steroids into NZ

[deegee]

yeah I have spent about a year reading bbing boards mainly overseas and always read whats going on in the steroid section, dont post though, pretty much got the basics sorted but always drop in for a read and learn from others. always heaps to learn about all aspects of this sport.

[deegee]

re rereading over some of these posts in the wee small hours because I cant sleep (day off tomorrow so i'll catch up later) realised I never answered some questions sorry marcus, when the m1t is gone that will be it for prohormones. I am trying to sort out the real thing at the moment which is where I will go next if I can.

My stats I am around 6' 105 kg and about 15%bf into my 30's now and been doing this a while I started off at 19 years old and 60kg.

I will start my last ph cycle in march and hope I have luck with the real thing after.

[Growth]

I will start my last ph cycle in march and hope I have luck with the real thing after.

What is your planned cycle going to be this time? Are you going to bump up the dosage or stick with what worked? Are you gonig to stack it with anything? How long are to planning to run it for.

By the way your stats are awesome, you have less fat than me and weight about 25kgs more. You must have a freaky physique.

I dare say if you can get your hands on some real gear you will be anything but dissapointed with the results :nod:

Have you thought of starting a journal?

[deegee]

The March cycle will be the same as before just using up the last of what I have, it will be 3 weeks long. I will leave everything the same. Dont really want to play around too much with the m1t dosage. hope I can gain 1-2 kg of good lbm after a cut when finished. want to get down in BF to closer to 10%

Will keep you posted on results at end, dont know about journal though.

I dont really see myself as being that big but thanks for the compliment,I think I have heavy bones or something! Having said that people who dont know me have ased where I train or asked stupid questions like" are all you bodybuilders gay?" or "that muscle is just from the gym its not real is it ?"

So I guess it does show!

[jinkillkill]

m1t is good fur cutting- keeps strength going when cals are low

besides that, Id rather have the real deal over p.h's- but since all I have are p.h's Ill go with em

methyl dht and m5aa are real good too

[Growth]

m1t is good fur cutting- keeps strength going when cals are low

besides that, Id rather have the real deal over p.h's- but since all I have are p.h's Ill go with em

methyl dht and m5aa are real good too

M1T, like any steroid can be used for cutting or bulking. Using an anabolic with a calorie deficit will result in a cutting effect, while using one with a calorie surplus will result in a bulk.

Its a common misconception that anabolics are better for cuts or bulks. Hell, people cut on abombs.

However i agree with you that Methyl DHT and Methyl 5AA are good products. As long as you dont mind losing a bit of hair. :pfft:

[deegee]

It is not really the anabolic that helps you cut, I know this is debated a lot by people, but it is surely the diet you are on that determins of you cut or bulk.

Never heard of people using Anadrol to cut! winstrol and equipoise yes, this is however just from my research point of view only though.

Also never heard of m1t being used to cut, but I guess with manipulation of diet.....

[hawkeye]

i have friend in CHCH who was buying hgh over the internet from the states,not 2 sure how long 4,i told him i thought it was illegal,think he stoped after that .

pills where round ball ,not sure they where real or not.

[deegee]

sounds more likely that they were Hgh "boosters" just another supplement usualy containing L-amino acids and some herbal medicine.

Total waste of money, glad you talked your friend out of them. I could be wrong though.

[jono]

i have friend in CHCH who was buying hgh over the internet from the states,not 2 sure how long 4,i told him i thought it was illegal,think he stoped after that .

pills where round ball ,not sure they where real or not.

hgh doesnt come in pill form.

[jono]

m1t is good fur cutting- keeps strength going when cals are low

besides that, Id rather have the real deal over p.h's- but since all I have are p.h's Ill go with em

methyl dht and m5aa are real good too

M1T, like any steroid can be used for cutting or bulking. Using an anabolic with a calorie deficit will result in a cutting effect, while using one with a calorie surplus will result in a bulk.

Its a common misconception that anabolics are better for cuts or bulks. Hell, people cut on abombs.

However i agree with you that Methyl DHT and Methyl 5AA are good products. As long as you dont mind losing a bit of hair. :pfft:

not all people loose hair. you either do or dont. aas just speeds up the proccess.

[jono]

It is not really the anabolic that helps you cut, I know this is debated a lot by people, but it is surely the diet you are on that determins of you cut or bulk.

Never heard of people using Anadrol to cut! winstrol and equipoise yes, this is however just from my research point of view only though.

Also never heard of m1t being used to cut, but I guess with manipulation of diet.....

certain drugs can enhance fat loss, metabolic rate, help keep muscle while dieting etc.

however diet always plays a large role.

edit: just an example: i dont think anyone could win a debat saying that DNP/hgh doesnt help you cut :grin:

[deegee]

certain drugs can enhance fat loss, metabolic rate

These drugs are not usualy aas though more likely clen or ephedera,

although yes some anabolics are used to help keep muscle while you diet and cardio etc, but they are helping maintain muscle not actual cut.

[jono]

certain drugs can enhance fat loss, metabolic rate

These drugs are not usualy aas though more likely clen or ephedera,

although yes some anabolics are used to help keep muscle while you diet and cardio etc, but they are helping maintain muscle not actual cut.

notice i was careful with my wording and i did not say AAS i said "drugs".

also your just repeating what i said in the rest of my post, "certain drugs can help retain muscle ie - be anti-catabolic."

[deegee]

I noticed that, so that means we are both right then

or at least in agreement!

[Growth]

It is not really the anabolic that helps you cut, I know this is debated a lot by people, but it is surely the diet you are on that determins of you cut or bulk.

Yeah thats what i was getting at in my post, using anabolics puts your body into a positive nitrogen balance, and when your body is in positive nitrogen balance, your muscles are in anabolism. A negative nitrogen balance means your muscle are in catabolism. Thats why its possible to cut or bulk of any anabolic because either you can use the positive nitrogen balance to grow larger by increasing your protein and overall calorie intake, or you can drop your calories whilst still keeping your body in an anabolic state, hence keep the mucle but lose fat.

Never heard of people using Anadrol to cut! winstrol and equipoise yes, this is however just from my research point of view only though.

Most peope wouldnt actually use anadrol for a cut, as winstrol etc dont add as much water retension. But it can be done.

Also never heard of m1t being used to cut, but I guess with manipulation of diet.....

I herd alot of people using it for both, like you say with diet manipulation it can be either.

[Growth]

i have friend in CHCH who was buying hgh over the internet from the states,not 2 sure how long 4,i told him i thought it was illegal,think he stoped after that .

pills where round ball ,not sure they where real or not.

hgh doesnt come in pill form.

Yeah HGH doesnt come in pill form. It probabliy was one of those HGH releaser pills that contain L-arginine and L-Ornithine and a couple other aminos.

[Growth]

Yeah anabolics dont actually promote fat loss like T3 or clen for example, they simpley put your muscles into anabolism, when whilst on a calorie deficit they would be in catabolism.

jono - when using Methyl DHT or M5AA, you will experience hair sheding wiether your are MPB prone or not. If you are MPB prone then it will be more evedent than if you are not but it will still happen. The scalp contains a high concentration of DHT receptors thats why whilst other hair on your body will actually increase when using DHT, hair on your scalp will get thinner / fall out. If your prone to MPB you shouldnt use DHT, if you arent then you can but youll still experince hair thinning and if used over a long period of time, hair loss.

Its like saying some men will not experience benign prostate hypertrophy if they use DHT, in large enough dosaged all men will experience this when using DHT as the prostate is another area with a high concentration of DHT receptors.

[bleat]

Many apologies if this question is over the questioning line but...

But what are the repercussions of importing PHs into NZ if customs seizes the package?

[deegee]

The worst I have heard for PH's is customs destroy your package, no money returned no ph's.

Anyone heard worse?

[Growth]

Unless you are importing an amount over a certain threshold, ie they believe the importation of these products was for resale and not personal use, then they will simpley send you a letter saying that you must get a letter from your doctor stating why you need the said drugs, if you cant produce the letter then they generally will destroy the drugs, and you will not recieve your money back. Occasionally they will send the products back to where they came from and therfor you will recieve a portion of your money back. I have heard that if they suspect you of importing for resale then your name, address etc will be put on a watchlist and any imported goods for your address and or name will be checked.

[Cornfed]

On the subject of M1T, it seems that you can still find it from quasi-licit sources if you look hard enough, but seems a little pricey compared to phs in the good old days. But perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place. Does anyone know how much one would expect to pay? (Just a figure will do; I'm not asking for sources or brand names or anything).

[Growth]

I havent been looking for M1T since the ban but before that i saw a good branded M1T for 10USD a botttle, 60caps per bottle, 5mg per cap.

[Cornfed]

$10? WTF? Oh well, I guess the NZ sources are a rip off, as with everything else.

[jerume]

Just to rectify something, M1T is not a PH it is a steriod.

what makes u say that?i imported a few bottles and sold them over here,i have never heard them being called steroids before!