Shoulder broadness/body shape

[rimma]

Disclaimer: this is probably a stupid question.

Is it possible to develop a larger build, as in skeletal size/shoulder broadness etc?

I have a classic toast-rack ribcage, coat-hanger shoulders ecto shape. Just wondering if bodies only change through the addition of muscle/fat, or if the underlying structure of your body can keep growing too?

if so, is it age-specific?

Cheers

[Jigga]

GH apparently increases organ size which could push your ribcage outwards giving you a bigger chest. You can make yourself appear wider by building your lats and delts. If you look at the young Dorian and Olympia Dorian and though it doesn't look like he has just packed on a whole lot of muscle to get thicker and wider. His actual skeleton looks bigger..

[rimma]

That's exactly what I was wondering about jigga, I've seen some big fellas posting pics of how they used to be sticks-not even small and solid.

Then they get huge...is it all muscle or is there a change in skeletal size?

What's GH? Growth hormone?

[NZresident1]

His actual skeleton looks bigger..

Good grief you on somethnig to strong for you I have met Dorian in person and he is a true gentleman of the sport I have been to his gym and most of the equipment is kitted out toward muscle growth.

As to the word skeletal lmao.

Once you have reached a ceratain age range the skeleton wont get any bigger, its the muscles that will do this.

Train hard train S.M.A.R.T

[rimma]

Good grief you on somethnig to strong for you I have met Dorian in person and he is a true gentleman of the sport I have been to his gym and most of the equipment is kitted out toward muscle growth.

Well yeah...thats what you'd expect in a gym right?

As to the word skeletal lmao.

Once you have reached a ceratain age range the skeleton wont get any bigger, its the muscles that will do this.

yeah so curious what age this would be. I'm 19 for example. Has my skeleton stopped growing?

[Riccardo]

No you can't make your shoulders wider.. shoulder width is a function of clavicular length among other things and unless you decide to hit the GH while still going through puberty you arent going to be able to change your skeletal structure. If your growth plates have fused then there is no hope.

If GH caused your organs to swell so much that you had them pressing on your rib cage then you have bigger things to worry about besides broad shoulders lol.

However, GH after puberty will cause your bones to thicken chances are you've stopped growing if you're 19, you might get a small increase in bone lengthening if you are a late developer but most likely not.

Growth hormone is a small peptide hormone released from the pituitary gland in your brain and has many functions around your body, most pertaining to increased cell division, tissue regeneration, protein anabolism etc i.e. it makes you grow physically larger (obviously).

[Jigga]

His actual skeleton looks bigger..

Good grief you on somethnig to strong for you I have met Dorian in person and he is a true gentleman of the sport I have been to his gym and most of the equipment is kitted out toward muscle growth.

As to the word skeletal lmao.

Once you have reached a ceratain age range the skeleton wont get any bigger, its the muscles that will do this.

Train hard train S.M.A.R.T

Nearly everything you said was either irrelevant or didn't make sense.

Doesn't look like he has just packed on muscle but whatever...

[Pseudonym]

Old-school bodybuilders used to do dumbell pullovers in the belief that it would expand their ribcage. Whether this actually works or not, I couldn't say.

[NZresident1]

Doesn't look like he has just packed on muscle but whatever...

nub I was tryin to point out you are blowing it out your ass by telling someone the shite you typed above.

Well yeah...thats what you'd expect in a gym right?

As to the above quote, Dorian selects all different types of equipment for muscle growth he doesnt go and get bone grafts you nob.

The pics represent ten years of training try it and see or are you another 19 year old gym blow hard

[rimma]

NZresident what are you on about? Can you even read?

1. You misquoted jigga as riccardo

2. Nobody is criticising dorian yates in any way

3. Nobody implied that he got 'bone-grafts'

4. Thread is just asking a question about body types and growth which you clearly have misinterpreted

4. You are adding nothing useful to this thread

Conclusion: gtfo

[Jigga]

hahaha :clap:

[kels]

:clap: =P~

[Beef]

4. You are adding nothing useful to this thread

:nod: threads on this site would be so much easier to read if people just answered the question and moved on.

[weajo196]

NZresident what are you on about? Can you even read?

1. You misquoted jigga as riccardo

2. Nobody is criticising dorian yates in any way

3. Nobody implied that he got 'bone-grafts'

4. Thread is just asking a question about body types and growth which you clearly have misinterpreted

4. You are adding nothing useful to this thread

Conclusion: gtfo

nice

[HarryB]

This is an interesting thread, I mean we look at guys like Dorian and it's hard to believe that they have changed so much. Ronnie is another great example, the way he changed from when he got his pro card at about 95 kilos to stepping on stage at a shredded 130 something is so hard to comprehend. For the most part I think your bone structure is what it is and that doesn't change.

Maybe look at Flex Wheeler on videos now as compared to when he was in his bodybuilding prime. He is back to a very fit and still muscular physique.. or Kevin Levrone.

[AlBundy]

You can change the size of your bones but only to a very small extent and only regarding their thickness not length, once a growth plate has closed longitudinal growth permanently ceases. Repeated stress on your skeleton will cause stress areas to calcify to an extent just as breaking a bone causes it to grow back slightly thicker. Just look at old builders hands the bones in their fingers are good examples of this kind of adaptation.

[rimma]

Interesting albundy. How much would the increase in thickness be do you think? visibly?

It would be cool to take an X-ray of somebody after they finish puberty, but before they start bodybuilding. Then take an X-ray after years of heavy training. See if theres any visible increase in bone thickness.

[geneticgod]

as to what Albundy said; i saw this on discovery with those human wreckin balls and they were throwing themselves onto cars and breaking concrete with the hands etc, they said they had spent year training to make their bones more dense than the objects they were smashing and bone biopsies showed they had damaged the bone and it had repaired itself to the extent that it had become 'rock hard', i guess they were doing to their bone what bodybuilders do to their muscle

[AlBundy]

Don't know. To test it would take years and you would need to take into account quite a few things, hard to monitor as well.

Calcium/salt deposits are usually negative, e.g calcium deposits in the joints, everyone knows the name of what it causes, arthritis. Someone who does boxing or pretty much any full contact sport for many years is at a higher risk of developing arthritis.

A better example of hardening might be to look at the limbs of fighters. Muay Thai practitioners who harden their legs by striking them on hard objects like banana trees causes small stress fractures to form, which given adequate rest will heal back thicker, the body deposits more minerals at those points. Then repeating the process many times over a long period of time I would imagine their shins become alot more solid.

Would be cool to see before and after xrays of their legs.

[wongk222]

open your fridge and stand between the door and the actual fridge.Get yourself in a comfortable position and pull the door shut on your shoulders.Do this every day for 10 weeks.Your shoulders will narrow (so will your arteries) .

suplementos musculação

[courts]

To answer your question, no your bones will not grow. Once you stop growing which is between 18 and 20 you wont grow anymore, however your bones do become more dense with weights.

this is why they tell women to do load bearing activities to prevent arthritis as the bones become stronger and thicker. of course this is limited by your genetics, some people have brittle bones.

Did you know that your ears and nose never stop growing lol

[tinytraps]

To answer your question, no your bones will not grow. Once you stop growing which is between 18 and 20 you wont grow anymore, however your bones do become more dense with weights.

this is why they tell women to do load bearing activities to prevent arthritis as the bones become stronger and thicker. of course this is limited by your genetics, some people have brittle bones.

Did you know that your ears and nose never stop growing lol

IIRC its actually osteoperosis or bone degeneration.

[cantygirl]

Ronnie is another great example, the way he changed from when he got his pro card at about 95 kilos to stepping on stage at a shredded 130 something is so hard to comprehend.

id imagine the juice had something to do with that

[ani_m0L]

So I suppose long-term/chronic trauma i.e a re-occurring popped shoulder, could change bone shape or structure?

If so, could lifting heavy weights (e.g for 3+ yrs) be considered as a very minor long-term trauma?

As for the Dorian conversation, there's no way you could achieve an olympian body without matured muscle... everyone knows you're at your prime in your 30-40's (right? :shifty: )

Nah honestly, I have no idea :pfft:

[Dubble_D]

As for the Dorian conversation, there's no way you could achieve an olympian body without matured muscle... everyone knows you're at your prime in your 30-40's (right? )

Thats a good question!