Auckland & Combined Services Bodybuilding Championship

[Mr NZ]

Nah it was too long and the mc was a dick.

[bigmd]

FYI

The south island champs. tanning will be as per normal and we willl have people to help with both dream tan and shimmer. there will be no crossing over of classes . you pick your class and run with that. the show WILL RUN ON TIME! thats my promise.

regards Mike D

[hawks]

Nah - athletes should compete in Nabba/WFF :pfft:

[Lil mama]

Once the figure class went on the M.C guy was making leary comments to the "boys" in the audience, something along the lines of "I like the butt on number 26, a good show for the perverts ay boys"

As a figure girl i too was shocked at this remark... the mc seems like a nice bloke but he needs to tidy up his act... us figure girls have worked hard to gain some respect as fellow athletes which i do believe we are starting to get. (bring back our linny!!!) Other wise all in all an enjoyable comp and a great show with the fighting and giveaways... i do feel each show is better than the last... figure & bodyfitness definately needs to be defined more clearly before nationals.. and maybe no more last minute rules (tanning, multi-categories...) before nats also......

bring back our old panel of judges...you are dearly missed. :cry:

[hawks]

The old ostrich with the head in the sand applies i wonder when people will wake up and realise that the people that run these shows are messing up . Tanning in the public eye , allowing competitors to enter two classes sheesh , and i believe they even asked a competitor who got ripped off with a placing in there federation and is now been succsessfull in nabba wff to be on one of there posters whats with that ?? . People having run shows in the past been booted out then low and behold they made up and kissed and are running shows again . One must ask what is going on , NZFBB is a mess . :roll: :roll: :roll:

[nzmusclemonster]

Where have all the people promising affirmative action against the nzfbb gone?

[MasterTel]

.. i believe they even asked a competitor who got ripped off with a placing in there federation and is now been succsessfull in nabba wff to be on one of there posters whats with that ??

Hey hawks, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing you are referring to me as the 2010 NZFBB Wellington Champs organiser asking Neralee Montague (2009 Wellington Champs overall winner) to be on this year's poster - along with fellow 2009 Overall winners Karl Cook and Jan Dixon? If so, I don't see what the issue is - it is logical to pick either prominent local competitors, a guest poser or past Overall winners to appear on a poster, which is what I'm doing for this event. Karl and Jan are happy with this, and Neralee politely declined the offer due to her obligations to NABBA/WFF (which I totally understand and I respectfully accepted this). I've known Neralee for nearly 10 years (we did our first event together at the 2001 NZFBB Capital Champs) and I've always had the utmost respect and admiration for her efforts and achievements.

I'd like to make it clear that I resigned from the NZFBB Executive 2 months ago, but I remain committed (with Bevan Mackenzie & Mike Debenham) to running quality events in our regions out of respect for the competitors, spectator and sponsors. We don't have any say in how NZFBB events get run in Auckland or any other region, and I fully support and respect event organisers who puts the interest of bodybuilding and those competing, watching or sponsoring their event before any personal agenda they may have ... regardless of whether they are running an NZFBB, NABBA NZ, NABBA/WFF or INBA show.

[Gym rat]

I also thought that as well about the MC at the show and some his comments about the figure girls were sexest plus when the figure girls and the other female athlets who diet and trained hard for the show.So very true Hawks I have also thought many times what is wrong with the NZFBB these days.There needs to be some changes soon like

[hawks]

.. i believe they even asked a competitor who got ripped off with a placing in there federation and is now been succsessfull in nabba wff to be on one of there posters whats with that ??

Hey hawks, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing you are referring to me as the 2010 NZFBB Wellington Champs organiser asking Neralee Montague (2009 Wellington Champs overall winner) to be on this year's poster - along with fellow 2009 Overall winners Karl Cook and Jan Dixon? If so, I don't see what the issue is - it is logical to pick either prominent local competitors, a guest poser or past Overall winners to appear on a poster, which is what I'm doing for this event. Karl and Jan are happy with this, and Neralee politely declined the offer due to her obligations to NABBA/WFF (which I totally understand and I respectfully accepted this). I've known Neralee for nearly 10 years (we did our first event together at the 2001 NZFBB Capital Champs) and I've always had the utmost respect and admiration for her efforts and achievements.

I'd like to make it clear that I resigned from the NZFBB Executive 2 months ago, but I remain committed (with Bevan Mackenzie & Mike Debenham) to running quality events in our regions out of respect for the competitors, spectator and sponsors. We don't have any say in how NZFBB events get run in Auckland or any other region, and I fully support and respect event organisers who puts the interest of bodybuilding and those competing, watching or sponsoring their event before any personal agenda they may have ... regardless of whether they are running an NZFBB, NABBA NZ, NABBA/WFF or INBA show.

Well if the cap fits wear it . Really though its bloody cheeky to ask a competitor to help advertise a federation that they no longer compete for dont you think , And yes you dont have any say in how events are run in Auckland that is true but by helping run events for NZFBB you are supporting a president that shall we say is not running the federation as it should be . You have reps that get booted , remarks where made on this forum by this person which i say i must agree with then bugger me they are back running shows again , the whole thing really looks like a joke . I must say and i have said it before there are some fine people running shows in this country in both NABBA NZ and NZFBB its the people at the top of these federations that are ruining the sport for the athletes.Imagine how good a federation we could have if people like yourself who are experianced in running shows and athletes who are not getting a fair shake came over to nabba wff and got behind a new federation in this country that is for the athletes . We could get back to the good old days of having over 100 competitors at shows .Unfortunately i think far to many people have there own personal agenders .

[MasterTel]

Well if the cap fits wear it . Really though its bloody cheeky to ask a competitor to help advertise a federation that they no longer compete for dont you think ,It's not cheeky at all! Neralee is the reigning Overall NZFBB Wellington Figure champion, many people compete for more than one organisation, and I asked Neralee as a favour to her. Neralee had no problem with being asked, so why should you hawks ... not that it's any of your business anyway. And yes you dont have any say in how events are run in Auckland that is true but by helping run events for NZFBB you are supporting a president that shall we say is not running the federation as it should be . Wrong. As I said earlier I'm privately organising the event for the benefit of the competitors, spectators and sponsors who deserve to have a good show to compete in/watch/sponsor ... it has nothing at all to do with supporting the NZFBB President!You have reps that get booted , remarks where made on this forum by this person which i say i must agree with then bugger me they are back running shows again , the whole thing really looks like a joke. Isn't it better to have people like me and Mike running these events, rather than dumping them on less-experienced people (which would be a joke). I must say and i have said it before there are some fine people running shows in this country in both NABBA NZ and NZFBB its the people at the top of these federations that are ruining the sport for the athletes. Imagine how good a federation we could have if people like yourself who are experianced in running shows and athletes who are not getting a fair shake came over to nabba wff and got behind a new federation in this country that is for the athletes . We could get back to the good old days of having over 100 competitors at showsThat would be nice, but only if we had one big organisation rather than several smaller ones .Unfortunately i think far to many people have there own personal agenders .Once again, hawks - I agree with you 100%

[SportsGuru]

ok its clear to me that there are several promoters that are running shows around the country that are well run and are well orgainised and well suported shows, this applies to both nzfbb & nabba nz! however as this thred is based on nzfbb i will refer to them!

i am curious as to how running a show that is affiliated to a president (who is currently running a dictatorship and has made a lot of people unhappy with lack of orgainisation, and sloppy managment of shows, as well as the tanning, pro card, un-contactable, and rule changes questions that dont appear to have been sufficently answered by the orgainisation (i may stand corrected)) how do you feel that your giving oportunities to your local competiters? will they not be hugely disapointed when they make the step from your well run local shows to a national "president" run show!!

will those novice competiters who are starting out in the sport get a fair deal at a national event where it seems that the "pres" has the final say over the judges anyway! (i say this as it does seem that all the credable and admired judges from around the country have ither been booted out or have left as they couldnt stand the way the federaiton was headding!)

how has it all been able to happen!!!

[MasterTel]

I do defend my decision to run this years NZFBB Wellington Champs. There are certainly better and more experienced event organisers in this country, but I'm extremely proud of what I've achieved in organising 12 events since 2005 in this region - 11 regional events and the 2008 NZFBB NZ Nationals. I made a commitment to running this event (and co-organising the Masterton event with Bevan Mackenzie) last October, which is when I started organising it (unlike Auckland-based events which seem to get thrown together in a couple of weeks if that). Two months ago, Moe & I were restocking shelves when an ex-NZFBB event organiser walked in. He asked me if I was organising this year's Wellington Champs and at the time I was so stressed and tired I said "I'm not sure" - to which Moe responded "well, if he doesn't then I can do it from Auckland!". Was I prepared to walk away and force the show to be run from Auckland .... definitely not, as I certainly wouldn't want to run an Auckland-based show from here so why would I put the pressure on someone up there to run a show in Wellington!

Keep in mind that any regional event is not just about qualifying for Nationals. Just under 50% of competitors at the 2009 NZFBB Wellington Champs did not go to Nationals, and this figure would be fairly much the same for most other regional events. So these people are only interested in competing in a well run and enjoyable regional event - nothing more. And many competitors who do end up going to Nationals will do so regardless of whether they expect the event to be poorly run because of their desire for a National title. Also, as I'm sure you will appreciate Sportsguru - a well run show gives a lot to the people who watch the event and also the sponsors.

This may be my last year running events for the NZFBB and if so then I'd like to finish off by giving my best efforts as I always do for the people that matter! :nod:

[SportsGuru]

My full respect to you Mastertell!

you are open, honest and to the point!

i can see you reasoning for continuing to run the show and forfilling your undertakings most comendable,

if in the future you would be interested in orgainising an event with NABBA/WFF we would welcome your expereance, knowlage and integrity with open arms.

it is people like your self that keep me passionate about the sport

kingsley hannah

[hawks]

Well if the cap fits wear it . Really though its bloody cheeky to ask a competitor to help advertise a federation that they no longer compete for dont you think ,It's not cheeky at all! Neralee is the reigning Overall NZFBB Wellington Figure champion, many people compete for more than one organisation, and I asked Neralee as a favour to her. Neralee had no problem with being asked, so why should you hawks ... not that it's any of your business anyway. And yes you dont have any say in how events are run in Auckland that is true but by helping run events for NZFBB you are supporting a president that shall we say is not running the federation as it should be . Wrong. As I said earlier I'm privately organising the event for the benefit of the competitors, spectators and sponsors who deserve to have a good show to compete in/watch/sponsor ... it has nothing at all to do with supporting the NZFBB President!You have reps that get booted , remarks where made on this forum by this person which i say i must agree with then bugger me they are back running shows again , the whole thing really looks like a joke. Isn't it better to have people like me and Mike running these events, rather than dumping them on less-experienced people (which would be a joke). I must say and i have said it before there are some fine people running shows in this country in both NABBA NZ and NZFBB its the people at the top of these federations that are ruining the sport for the athletes.AGREED!Imagine how good a federation we could have if people like yourself who are experianced in running shows and athletes who are not getting a fair shake came over to nabba wff and got behind a new federation in this country that is for the athletes . We could get back to the good old days of having over 100 competitors at showsThat would be nice, but only if we had one big organisation rather than several smaller ones .Unfortunately i think far to many people have there own personal agenders .Once again, hawks - I agree with you 100%

:roll: you completely miss the point , once again wasting my breath .

[MasterTel]

My full respect to you Mastertell!

you are open, honest and to the point!

i can see you reasoning for continuing to run the show and forfilling your undertakings most comendable,

if in the future you would be interested in orgainising an event with NABBA/WFF we would welcome your expereance, knowlage and integrity with open arms.

it is people like your self that keep me passionate about the sport

kingsley hannah

Thanks very much for those kind comments, Kingsley - much appreciated! Thank you also for the offer to perhaps help out with a NABBA/WFF event in the future - I'll keep it in mind. For now I'm just focusing on these two NZFBB events I'm involved with running this year, as well as getting back on stage for the first time in 3 years.

[hawks]

Your summary of the current chaotic state of the NZFBB is spot on, Sportsguru - I certainly can't disagree with you on any of those points.

I do defend my decision to run this years NZFBB Wellington Champs. There are certainly better and more experienced event organisers in this country, but I'm extremely proud of what I've achieved in organising 12 events since 2005 in this region - 11 regional events and the 2008 NZFBB NZ Nationals. I made a commitment to running this event (and co-organising the Masterton event with Bevan Mackenzie) last October, which is when I started organising it (unlike Auckland-based events which seem to get thrown together in a couple of weeks if that). Two months ago, on the day Moe dumped me from his Wellington store, we were restacking shelves when an ex-NZFBB event organiser walked in. He asked me if I was organising this year's Wellington Champs and at the time I was so stressed and fed up with the NZFBB I said "I'm not sure" - to which Moe responded "well, if he doesn't then I can do it from Auckland!". Was I prepared to walk away and let the show be run from Auckland .... definitely not!

Keep in mind that any regional event is not just about qualifying for Nationals. Just under 50% of competitors at the 2009 NZFBB Wellington Champs did not go to Nationals, and this figure would be fairly much the same for most other regional events. So these people are only interested in competing in a well run and enjoyable regional event - nothing more. And many competitors who do end up going to Nationals will do so regardless of whether they expect the event to be poorly run because of their desire for a National title. Also, as I'm sure you will appreciate Sportsguru - a well run show gives a lot to the people who watch the event and also the sponsors.

Even if I want to continue next year, this may be my last year running events for the NZFBB. Believe me, I have a LOT of very good reasons to walk well away from the NZFBB for the way I've been treated this year, so if this is my last year then I'd like to finish off by giving my best efforts as I always do for the people that matter! :nod:

Cant argue with that well said , just the sorta bloke we need in NABBA WFF :wink:

[musclenz]

Your summary of the current chaotic state of the NZFBB is spot on, Sportsguru - I certainly can't disagree with you on any of those points.

I do defend my decision to run this years NZFBB Wellington Champs. There are certainly better and more experienced event organisers in this country, but I'm extremely proud of what I've achieved in organising 12 events since 2005 in this region - 11 regional events and the 2008 NZFBB NZ Nationals. I made a commitment to running this event (and co-organising the Masterton event with Bevan Mackenzie) last October, which is when I started organising it (unlike Auckland-based events which seem to get thrown together in a couple of weeks if that). Two months ago, on the day Moe dumped me from his Wellington store, we were restacking shelves when an ex-NZFBB event organiser walked in. He asked me if I was organising this year's Wellington Champs and at the time I was so stressed and fed up with the NZFBB I said "I'm not sure" - to which Moe responded "well, if he doesn't then I can do it from Auckland!". Was I prepared to walk away and let the show be run from Auckland .... definitely not!

Keep in mind that any regional event is not just about qualifying for Nationals. Just under 50% of competitors at the 2009 NZFBB Wellington Champs did not go to Nationals, and this figure would be fairly much the same for most other regional events. So these people are only interested in competing in a well run and enjoyable regional event - nothing more. And many competitors who do end up going to Nationals will do so regardless of whether they expect the event to be poorly run because of their desire for a National title. Also, as I'm sure you will appreciate Sportsguru - a well run show gives a lot to the people who watch the event and also the sponsors.

Even if I want to continue next year, this may be my last year running events for the NZFBB. Believe me, I have a LOT of very good reasons to walk well away from the NZFBB for the way I've been treated this year, so if this is my last year then I'd like to finish off by giving my best efforts as I always do for the people that matter! :nod:

Terry, I don't think there is any question about your ability & also MikeD's ability to run successful regional shows but while you are aligning yourselves with the current NZFBB, as promoters, you surely must be subject to the hierarchy's decision making, rules & conditions. Airing your dirty laundry on a public forum is only going to make your job more difficult I would have thought. Either embrace & work with the Federation as it stands or pull out completely & operate independently much like a CCI event. Good luck with your shows.

[Grover]

All very interesting, like a soap story!

BUT

Does anybody have the results??? pictures??

[ED_AISH]

Here a pic of Phil K a couple of days after the show. He looks Awesome

Have put some more in the post your pics section.

[kj]

The overall winners pics, a video clip, and some shots from the judging rounds are now online at:

http://www.muscleimaging.com/Events/NZF ... FCS10.html

All class winners lineups and placings will follow - honest.

KJ

[Gym rat]

I thought Phil K did look amazing at the show on Saturday and I thought the MC could have said were the athlete is from and which gym that the train at ie Les Mills etc

[MasterTel]

Terry, I don't think there is any question about your ability & also MikeD's ability to run successful regional shows but while you are aligning yourselves with the current NZFBB, as promoters, you surely must be subject to the hierarchy's decision making, rules & conditions. Airing your dirty laundry on a public forum is only going to make your job more difficult I would have thought. Either embrace & work with the Federation as it stands or pull out completely & operate independently much like a CCI event. Good luck with your shows.

Thanks very much, Rod. Yes, you are 100% correct - this forum is not the place to air my dirty laundry, so I apologise for that and have modifed my original post.

As I am no longer on the NZFBB Executive (by choice), I have no say in the decision making on rule changes or policy. I have emailed the NZFBB President & Judges Chairman (Moe & Brian) to reconfirm my commitment to running the best possible events this year, and to abide fully with NZFBB protocol, rules and guidelines. All I ask from them is that any change that affects the competitors or the running of the event is communicated to me as the Event Organiser and our members/competitors in a timely and effective manner so we all know where we stand and there are no nasty surprises for anyone.

[NZresident1]

I applaude Mastertel for informing the masses of where he stands, as to shows being run in NZ all groups need to stop the carry on and get on with there own shows.

To much time is spent in this site explaining this and that lets just get on with the year natural attrition will balance the cards laid on the table.

One question I would like to ask

Is there a reason Bodybuilding organisations are running events all over NZ on the same days? and why?

Seems pointless if everyone in here says we are here for the athletes would it not be prudent as show organisers to find appropriate dates that work for the athletes.

[kj]

As promised, all winners pics plus results are now online at http://www.muscleimaging.com/Events/NZF ... FCS10.html

DVD coming very soon.

KJ

[musclenz]

Terry, I don't think there is any question about your ability & also MikeD's ability to run successful regional shows but while you are aligning yourselves with the current NZFBB, as promoters, you surely must be subject to the hierarchy's decision making, rules & conditions. Airing your dirty laundry on a public forum is only going to make your job more difficult I would have thought. Either embrace & work with the Federation as it stands or pull out completely & operate independently much like a CCI event. Good luck with your shows.

Thanks very much, Rod. Yes, you are 100% correct - this forum is not the place to air my dirty laundry, so I apologise for that and have modifed my original post.

As I am no longer on the NZFBB Executive (by choice), I have no say in the decision making on rule changes or policy. I have emailed the NZFBB President & Judges Chairman (Moe & Brian) to reconfirm my commitment to running the best possible events this year, and to abide fully with NZFBB protocol, rules and guidelines. All I ask from them is that any change that affects the competitors or the running of the event is communicated to me as the Event Organiser and our members/competitors in a timely and effective manner so we all know where we stand and there are no nasty surprises for anyone.

Excellent. Its good to see a promoter taking care of his athletes. Thats what Federations have lost sight of amongst their little power & ego trips.