True/false. Post protein shake holds fat?? HELP!

[Margot02]

Just wondering y my PT has never got me to have protein shakes after my workouts? Isnt that the most important time to have it?

And how far out from a comp do i stop protein shakes? i have 3 weeks till comp :doh:

[Beef]

if you're buying protein supplements, yes, the best time to take it is immediately post-workout. i would argue that eating real food post workout is as good if not better

[Margot02]

Ok, well im 3 weeks out and im having bad cravings after t, so i have been having 'sludge', scoop protein and tspn of almond or PB.Would i have to cut that out of my diet now? :doh:

[Elite121]

Just wondering y my PT has never got me to have protein shakes after my workouts? Isnt that the most important time to have it?

And how far out from a comp do i stop protein shakes? i have 3 weeks till comp :doh:

Sorry I cant be of much help to you on this but I've never heard of post workout protein shakes holding fat? I would really like to see the studies he can provide backing that claim up, as Ive never come across that before.

I hope people here more experienced can help you out on this one.

Good luck with your competition.

[Margot02]

Yeah i found it pretty hard to understand myself! I always took protein after workouts anyway :pfft:

But hey thank u anyways

[Beef]

no offence but your PT sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Elite121]

Yeah i found it pretty hard to understand myself! I always took protein after workouts anyway :pfft:

But hey thank u anyways

You might get something out of this article by Lyle Mcdonald.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle ... ition.html

Enjoy

[Margot02]

Thanks for that... yea i honestly dont know why hes not wanted me to he competes himself!! :pfft:

[PTinCHCH]

lean protein in water = awesomeness

[Laver]

Just regarding the importance of PostWO shake...

I've always understood it like this,

If you don't have a high protein diet, in which amino acids are always running around in your body, then PWO is the best time for you to take extra protein in, it will be utilized best by the body.

However, if you have a good diet, where your already taking in a good amount of protein around the clock and there are already amino acids readily available, then the benefits of a post workout shake diminish significantly, to the point where it would be just as good to have another feed.

[Beef]

Just regarding the importance of PostWO shake...

I've always understood it like this,

If you don't have a high protein diet, in which amino acids are always running around in your body, then PWO is the best time for you to take extra protein in, it will be utilized best by the body.

However, if you have a good diet, where your already taking in a good amount of protein around the clock and there are already amino acids readily available, then the benefits of a post workout shake diminish significantly, to the point where it would be just as good to have another feed.

yes :nod:

[Elite121]

Just regarding the importance of PostWO shake...

I've always understood it like this,

If you don't have a high protein diet, in which amino acids are always running around in your body, then PWO is the best time for you to take extra protein in, it will be utilized best by the body.

However, if you have a good diet, where your already taking in a good amount of protein around the clock and there are already amino acids readily available, then the benefits of a post workout shake diminish significantly, to the point where it would be just as good to have another feed.

Alan Aragon says it like this:

"The first law of nutrient timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing

[seascott]

Sounds like that applies to people who train in the evening, which then brings the question is it always best to train in the early evening ( after work ) when you have eaten plenty of quality foods throughout the day.

On weekends I train in the mornings? May have to change that then!

[Elite121]

Sounds like that applies to people who train in the evening, which then brings the question is it always best to train in the early evening ( after work ) when you have eaten plenty of quality foods throughout the day.

On weekends I train in the mornings? May have to change that then!

A shake 30 minutes or an easily digestible meal 60 minutes prior to a workout may be an option for you in the mornings.Not sure if their would be a need for a further PWO shake as the pre-workout nutrition has a lingering affect upon the post and pre workout period

People can be under the illusion that if you dont consume a PWO your muscles will fall off your bone, but if during and pre workout nutrition is addressed is their really a need to worry about the so called "Window of opportunity". Interestingly enough the vast majority of studies on nutrient timing have been done on overnight fasted subjects which limits the applicability of those studies applications.

I'm not sure what the rest of you forum members think about this, I'm pretty open to constructive criticism if what you've read seems wrong.

[Beef]

Sounds like that applies to people who train in the evening, which then brings the question is it always best to train in the early evening ( after work ) when you have eaten plenty of quality foods throughout the day.

On weekends I train in the mornings? May have to change that then!

A shake 30 minutes or an easily digestible meal 60 minutes prior to a workout may be an option for you in the mornings.Not sure if their would be a need for a further PWO shake as the pre-workout nutrition has a lingering affect upon the post and pre workout period

People can be under the illusion that if you dont consume a PWO your muscles will fall off your bone, but if during and pre workout nutrition is addressed is their really a need to worry about the so called "Window of opportunity". Interestingly enough the vast majority of studies on nutrient timing have been done on overnight fasted subjects which limits the applicability of those studies applications.

I'm not sure what the rest of you forum members think about this, I'm pretty open to constructive criticism if what you've read seems wrong.

nope i totally agree with everything you've said you talk a lot of sense

as long as you're eating every 2-3 hours there's no need to have protein immediately post-workout.

[cantygirl]

I think the pt may have been inferring that its the added calories that need to go cos the the end of the day 100 calories each shake over the week adds up and when your balancing on the edge, every little thing counts.

[nate225]

I think the pt may have been inferring that its the added calories that need to go cos the the end of the day 100 calories each shake over the week adds up and when your balancing on the edge, every little thing counts.

As above.

Without knowing the big picture of what your PT has got you doing I think its dangerous for you to be seeking ad hoc advice online Margot!

Either listen to your PT in full or dump him & get a new one.

Remember when you're getting to the last few weeks pre comp your brain does silly things when seriously deprived of CHO. This is the point many people want to start changing things & generally go and f*ck it up for themselves! :nod:

Let someone else do the thinking & decision making for you. If he gets it wrong this time get a new PT for the next show.

Nate