New NZFBB website

[MasterTel]

A A Weener lad not when it is copyrighted no way. :naughty:

this may be true, but what of it? the interim fed management are the ones who have seen fit to create the new site, which was necessary because the then president hadnt/wouldnt release the info back.

so are you insinuating that the old president will have a problem with there being a new site? i dont understand what you are trying to acheive with these negative posts??

Terry, you are the mantis! Its fantastic to have you back around. Ignore the haters, theyve been drinking too much haterade!

Well said, startinfromscratch, and thanks very much for your support! As I have found out the hard way, there will always be people on this site making ill-informed and ignorant comments, but all you can do is rise above it. I always strive to do my best, and will always be open to constructive criticism - but not to bitchy and unwarranted comments.

Perhaps becks and bbgotback would be better off sticking to their coffee and gossip sessions? :nod:

[becks]

Seriously startfromscratch "what of it" do you know what copyright means? Give me your website i want to copy it. You can not do that regardless to who is right and who is wrong and who will be in the seats next etc. This is not hating at all just common sense. Great start :clap:

[Jimbob]

Becks, are you an intellectual property lawyer? I'm not but I would have thought the NZFBB owns the copyright/intellectual property on the website, not one individual. Whoever locked down the old site may well be breaching IP laws here.

Anyways, rock on Terry. You were always one of the nice guys and probably one of only a handful of guys who had the sport's best interest's at heart. I hope everything gets back on track post April 9.

[Loochi]

Make Terry president!! :clap:

Ban Becks!! :pray:

[becks]

Haha what a start. :doh:

[Pseudonym]

Actually Becks, the copyright belongs to the organisation, not to the website. So the organisation is quite entitled to do whatever it likes with the content of the site, including copying it to another site.

Terry, thanks for posting this update. Hopefully you can get the nzfbb.org.nz domain back once this has all settled down. (Although it's probably no bad thing to have nzfbb.co.nz registered as well.)

[MasterTel]

Thanks everyone, and don't worry - I know very well who becks and bbgotback are, what their agenda is, and why they are desperately trying to discredit me.

What must really annoy them is that I get recognised for selflessly giving my time, respect and energy to anyone who wants or needs advice - and I have no hidden agenda nor any selfish motivation in doing so.

If the type person to run the NZFBB is one who has to dish out free trips, special favours, Pro cards etc, then I am clearly not qualified. But, if having honesty, integrity, hardwork and respect for all members (not just a handful) and democrary gives me a good chance, then I might just give it a go! :nod:

Anyway, an "election speech" is a bit off the topic here! :wink: Yes, pseudonym - moving to the .co.nz suffix is quite handy, especially now when the .org.nz site has been kidnapped by a certain person (you know who I mean, don't you becks & bbgotback?) Enjoy your next coffee session, ladies! :nod:

[MasterTel]

.. I just fixed a typo with the address for tomorrow's meeting venue - the Quality Inn hotel is in Grey Lynn, not New Lynn.

[pimp]

I agree with Terry. I've worked backstage a few times at contest with Mark Delew and Terry and thery are always running around doing alot. Music of the competitors, Marshalling, tanning keeping the pace etc

[BigLou]

Wow talk about counting your chickens before they hatch!

Terry is assuming Paul Graham has the ability to override the current committee and they have control before confirming this in writting from the IFBB president :pfft: so therefore can copy the current organisations web site.

Someone will have egg on their face soon wont they! :oops:

I suppose its no different to going off and telling someone they have funding for a show when the organisation never agreed to it!

Much like the "other" thread... I'm looking forward to seeing a signed document \:D/

[Gym rat]

I am also looking forward to seeing the signed document and the fedration returning back to normal \:D/ \:D/

[startinfromscratch]

Wow talk about counting your chickens before they hatch!

Terry is assuming Paul Graham has the ability to override the current committee and they have control before confirming this in writting from the IFBB president :pfft: so therefore can copy the current organisations web site.

Someone will have egg on their face soon wont they! :oops:

I suppose its no different to going off and telling someone they have funding for a show when the organisation never agreed to it!

Much like the "other" thread... I'm looking forward to seeing a signed document \:D/

seems like all you negative nanas are the ones doing the assuming! When the prez you refer to wont even take calls, or release the required info for site maintenance, why on earth WOULDNT they override him? :?

talk about not seeing the forest for the trees! why do you think they needed to relaunch the site?? was it:

A) for fun?

B) cos 2 sites are better than 1?

C) because the fbb had essentially been locked out of its own site?

unless, of course, you are of the beleif that Moe is running everything 'swimmingly', and that site maintenance is of utterly no importance?

please, enlighten us all?

[bbgotback]

Wow talk about counting your chickens before they hatch!

Terry is assuming Paul Graham has the ability to override the current committee and they have control before confirming this in writting from the IFBB president :pfft: so therefore can copy the current organisations web site.

Someone will have egg on their face soon wont they! :oops:

I suppose its no different to going off and telling someone they have funding for a show when the organisation never agreed to it!

Much like the "other" thread... I'm looking forward to seeing a signed document \:D/

seems like all you negative nanas are the ones doing the assuming! When the prez you refer to wont even take calls, or release the required info for site maintenance, why on earth WOULDNT they override him? :?

talk about not seeing the forest for the trees! why do you think they needed to relaunch the site?? was it:

A) for fun?

B) cos 2 sites are better than 1?

C) because the fbb had essentially been locked out of its own site?

unless, of course, you are of the beleif that Moe is running everything 'swimmingly', and that site maintenance is of utterly no importance?

please, enlighten us all?

I thought the site was only taken over from Terry a few weeks ago? Why was it taken off you Terry?

[startinfromscratch]

:?

[bbgotback]

rubbish started

yea mastertel, even though you didnt have the codes before this "rubbish", you should have updated the site! :roll:

He did have the codes up until end of March, so what was the excuse for not maintaining the site before than, Information was given and requests to have sight updated were ignored.

Also, I would like to know more about the athelete being promised funding by Terry without the backing of the Committee??? what is that about? Is Moe being blamed for that too?

[startinfromscratch]

rubbish started

yea mastertel, even though you didnt have the codes before this "rubbish", you should have updated the site! :roll:

He did have the codes up until end of March, so what was the excuse for not maintaining the site before than, Information was given and requests to have sight updated were ignored.

Also, I would like to know more about the athelete being promised funding by Terry without the backing of the Committee??? what is that about? Is Moe being blamed for that too?

team moussawi in the house!

terry for prez!!!

[bbgotback]

yea mastertel, even though you didnt have the codes before this "rubbish", you should have updated the site! :roll:

He did have the codes up until end of March, so what was the excuse for not maintaining the site before than, Information was given and requests to have sight updated were ignored.

Also, I would like to know more about the athelete being promised funding by Terry without the backing of the Committee??? what is that about? Is Moe being blamed for that too?

team moussawi in the house!

terry for prez!!!

Good answer!! :clap: :oops: :pfft:

[SportsGuru]

New site great stuff well done Terry on keeping the members informed to the best of your ability :clap:

it is fantastic to see that there are people in this sport that are pasionate enough to step up and say what they think, and set wheels in motion to bring the sport back to being about the competiters,

its an unfortunate shame (but an inevitable one) that there are people out there who stir the pot (and proably dip their hand in it aswell) whom are also not keen to voice their opinions using thier own name instead hiding behind a computer alis,

bring on the NEW/OLD NZFBB and the NEW NABBA/WFF enough politics! lets play fair

and aplause to those able to atend the meeting on friday

keep cool till after school

Kingsley Hannah

[MasterTel]

He did have the codes up until end of March, so what was the excuse for not maintaining the site before than, Information was given and requests to have sight updated were ignored.

You really should stop making a fool of yourself, bbgotback. Every request to post information on the site was actioned by me promptly, so you don't know what you're talking about. Plus on many occasions I updated information and results without prompting ... like your result at the Arnold Classic! :wink:

BigLou has obviously given you bogus info ... mind you, it's been a while since he was in charge of the website and while it's not a competition I'm pretty confident I've done a more efficient job (unpaid) that he did (paid). :nod:

[MasterTel]

Much like the "other" thread... I'm looking forward to seeing a signed document \:D/

Good point, BigLou. As you will be aware I'm not running the meeting tomorrow - I've merely been invited to attend. I have made it clear that the appropriate document needs to be produced (i.e. signed instructions & endorsement from the IFBB President) to allow the anticipated action to take effect.

[MasterTel]

Oh, while I remember - regarding the promised funding for a particular competitor ... I was merely relaying a message from my President at the time that she would get this funding i.e. he told me an agreed amount and asked me to pass the message on, which I did. Quite simple really!

I'm not going to waste more time defending any more rants from bbgotback etc, as I've got a meeting to prepare for tomorrow. I'll check back on this site when I get back tomorrow night.

[BigLou]

Let get some facts right Terry

- The last person to be paid for any web site updates was in fact Mark & Jo's Son. feel free to check the financial records

- The only other times a payment was made for the web site was in 2000/2001 (not sure of exact date) it was one payment and it was for the work done to the founder & founding work of the site. All the other work was never claimed for apart from hosting costs. Because it was done for the passion of the sport and we believed the NZFBB was not in a financial position at that time to claim then. Technology and software wasnt like it is now for sites where you can upload multiple photos etc, but it was nice to have profiles...

- Ive never had a problem with your promptness to update the site it's the ownership and copy rights that are in question. And that can only be answered once ownership is cleared up.

Quiet frankly from what i hear both sides and fence sitters are sick of arguing about it.

Lets get it sorted one way or the other and get back to what we really enjoy.

[bigmd]

Lets be honest "BigLou" apart from getting some athletes to the Arnold what else has moe done? (i have to add that all those athletes absolutely deserved a trip to the worlds or Arnold so im not arguing that) but since he has taken over from ........ Brian Mc what has he done with good reason? he doesn't like me is that any reason to not respond to my request of running the South Islands as a private promotor and leave the chairman of judges to text me?(which surprised me as the CJ judged at my last show and commented how he really enjoyed the weekend in ChCH, but text me the show was to go in a different direction????) that he dropped the most successful show of the yr, the CNI again because he was challenged by the organizer? to run the worst organized Nationals i can remember (which he left the Co-Organiser at the venue to deal with all the things he hadn't done), to be arrogantly late to the Pro Show last month (which he did the same at the Auckland's last yr) no accounts, running NZFBB EFT-POS show ticket sales at nationals through extremes eft-pos and accounts but not showing anyone a reconciliation.?

As i said to moe to his face last yr. all he had to do is the right thing and people will follow, he had all the contacts to get many of NZ's athletes to great shows and he had a good group of people around him running good shows that people enjoyed and being the level of athlete he is he has the respect......had the respect. His job was to run a tight ship and make sure all the t's were crossed and all the i's were dotted. instead he believes he is bigger than anyone (i don't mean physically)

I have seen a letter sent by one of the exec committee members (moes committee) supporting moe and he suggests no committee is needed and that it should be run by one man.. Moe. NABBA NZ is a good example of why that is a bad idea. NO sporting Organization should be owned by anyone person thats not sport its business. business skills are needed to help run the Sport well, but as soon as its run as a business you will start having some major conflicts of intreats. imagine if the NZRU was owned by one person. Americas Cup is a great example of a sport which has been ruined by Business, Professional Boxing another.

[Snapper]

all valid and good points MD, NZFBB under the current regime is all about Moe and his hangers on, not the grass roots athletes that make the events what they have been under MS and before.

Dont get me wrong, the athletes need someone to aspire to, but we do not need to be treated like sh** as we have been in the last couple of shows under Moes rule. glad you are on here and seeing the general feeling about how you have screwed things up bbgotback, kiwis will not accept that treatment. Hope something positive comes out of the meeting today.

[Loochi]

This thread should be interesting tonight... See the outcome of everything.