Does fruit at night put on fat?

[teamfatboy]

I'm just picking but...

...I still fail to see what is complex about fructose. It is not a complex sugar.

Nik, my bad... like I said earlier, that post was lousy... very poor choice of language.

[EMC]

EMC wrote:

1000 calorie shakes before you go to bed is going to put on fat

This is not true unless other factors are specified.

This is where people make a statement that without quantifying other factors

1000 calorie shake before bed will not make you fat if this replaces dinner. Ypu did not say what this person ate the rest of the day. This is the problem with many people on this site. They make a statement in isolation but forget to mention the whole picture. How much food did they consume throughout the day, how much exercise, what sort of food etc etc?

Think before you make a blanket statement!

^^

100/60 gram post workout shake, rice/meat meal, 1000 calorie shake.

thats not very intelligent to ask, what else im eating before i have the 1000 calorie shake before i go to bed. im consuming what i need to keep my body anabolic post workout. if you eat this much post workout-sleep you wouldnt put on that much fat(but you will) becuase this is when your body really needs all the calories. < if your trying to insinuate that if you dont eat for 4-5 hours and have a 1000 calorie shake and not put on fat thats just stupid to even waste your time considering some retard is going to miss their post workout shake/meal on purpose. and the average person probly isnt making their own 1000 calorie shakes just buying the commerical stuff so that wouldnt even be a good option as a meal replacement in that perspective to have that to cover for your missed meals. you dont know what kind of carbs and fats theyre using.

and by my OP i was implying that it was a good thing to consume fats before you sleep when i said '1000 calorie shakes are going to store fat' obviously consume and store are two different things but i wanst trying to make any sort of point as the OP was wondering about fat from fruit well fruit arent the best option before you sleep and that you WANT the fats before you sleep just from different foods.

[agent86]

100/60 gram post workout shake, rice/meat meal, 1000 calorie shake.

EMC

thats not very intelligent to ask, what else im eating before i have the 1000 calorie shake before i go to bed. im consuming what i need to keep my body anabolic post workout. if you eat this much post workout-sleep you wouldnt put on that much fat becuase this is when your body really needs all the calories. < if your trying to insinuate that if you dont eat for 4-5 hours and have a 1000 calorie shake and not put on fat thats just stupid to even waste your time considering some retard is going to miss meals on purpose. and the average person probly isnt making their own 1000 calorie shakes just buying the commerical stuff so that wouldnt even be a good option as a meal replacement in that perspective to have that to cover for your missed meals. you dont know what kind of carbs and fats theyre using.Posts: 93

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Natural bodybuilder

You just don't understand what I said you fool. I just said your statement was incomplete. We can't read your mind what you mean. Your statement was that if you had a 1000 calorie shake before you went to bed you would put on fat. Think about it, it's a stupid statement. I don't know what you eat as you have not said so and even so you made a blanket starement about everyone anyway.

Just because someone has quite a few calories before bed doesn't mean they will get fat it depends on the daily calorie intake which you did not specify.

[Nik Antunovich]

"If you eat fruit after you wake up does it put on fat? What about for lunch or mid morning/afternoon meal?"

I really don't know. Ask Jenny Craig.

[trainharder]

EMC wrote:

1000 calorie shakes before you go to bed is going to put on fat

This is not true unless other factors are specified.

This is where people make a statement that without quantifying other factors

1000 calorie shake before bed will not make you fat if this replaces dinner. Ypu did not say what this person ate the rest of the day. This is the problem with many people on this site. They make a statement in isolation but forget to mention the whole picture. How much food did they consume throughout the day, how much exercise, what sort of food etc etc?

Think before you make a blanket statement!

^^

100/60 gram post workout shake, rice/meat meal, 1000 calorie shake.

thats not very intelligent to ask, what else im eating before i have the 1000 calorie shake before i go to bed. im consuming what i need to keep my body anabolic post workout. if you eat this much post workout-sleep you wouldnt put on that much fat(but you will) becuase this is when your body really needs all the calories. < if your trying to insinuate that if you dont eat for 4-5 hours and have a 1000 calorie shake and not put on fat thats just stupid to even waste your time considering some retard is going to miss their post workout shake/meal on purpose. and the average person probly isnt making their own 1000 calorie shakes just buying the commerical stuff so that wouldnt even be a good option as a meal replacement in that perspective to have that to cover for your missed meals. you dont know what kind of carbs and fats theyre using.

and by my OP i was implying that it was a good thing to consume fats before you sleep when i said '1000 calorie shakes are going to store fat' obviously consume and store are two different things but i wanst trying to make any sort of point as the OP was wondering about fat from fruit well fruit arent the best option before you sleep and that you WANT the fats before you sleep just from different foods.

??????

theres some good english courses you can undertake if you would like to learn how to write sentences others can understand

did you even read the earlier posts

what agent86 said was dont put a blanket statement like 1000 calorie shake before bed will make you fat and mislead people

theres so many other factors involved.

how many calories you burn during the day and other calories youve consumed etc.

the original question was will fruit at night make you fat

and no it wont if you are on a very low calorie diet and burning lots of calories.

[Beef]

GTFO EMC

[EMC]

gymsta be quite please you have no experience whatso ever to be giving advice so if you gunna hate on me let me officially say to you quit spam posting cuz its getting old.

and the idea of having 1000 calorie shakes is to boost your calories one who is seirous about his weight gain who already knows he will be putting on fat. you dont have 1000 calorie shakes as a meal replacement bcuz those who do typicaly buy commerical shakes not make them themselves. this means dunno what kind of protein carbs and fats using it as a meal replacement its the worst option and any 'meal replacement' is inferior to real food.

eating fat before you sleep and FAT storage during sleep is a good thing and something not to worry about. unless your dieting for a competition there is no need for this discussion or this thread.

dont eat fruit before you sleep period. you WANT complex carbs before you sleep and you want fat.

enough english for you? i mean if i actually thought a thread/dicussion/debate was worth spending time to completing a grammatical statement then i would care to make sense. i dont blame OP maybe he didnt know but the answers that followed werent informative and fail. by our common friends that are quick to spam.

[Specter]

the original question was will fruit at night make you fat

and no it wont if you are on a very low calorie diet and burning lots of calories.

I feel youre also making a blanket statement by saying that fruit wont make you fat if youre on a very low calorie diet and burning lots of calories. Both points are true but not necessary.

Fruit wont make you fat if youre not on a very low calorie diet or not burning lots of calories. You only need a calorie deficit. It doesnt have to be extreme and you dont have to kill yourself burning lots of calories either.

I think you only need to be scared of fruit if you suffer hereditary fructose intolerance or fructose malabsorption. Both are conditions in which the liver enzymes that break up fructose are deficient.

If you believe wikipedia "Fructose is absorbed in the small intestine without help of digestive enzymes. However, even in healthy people, only about 25-50 g of fructose per sitting can be absorbed."

25g of fructose equates to a pretty big serving of fruit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose_malabsorption

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_fructose_intolerance

[Beef]

dont eat fruit before you sleep period.

:-s thats absurd. if you eat a piece of fruit before bed every night you're not going to get fat

[EMC]

im confused is this guy wondering about fruit and fat for bulking? or is he on a diet? he just made a general statement that should be addressed for the quality of the food source not for the fat storing molecular structure. so you should look to a better source of food at that time of night.

and ill repeat myself while he hasnt specified for which application hes eating the fruit for i assume its weightlifting. for this application before you sleep you want long lasting carbohydrate sources and dense food that can slow the release of protein eg peanut butter, milk etc with fat aswell.

eat as much fruit as you want if your training hard it wont matter but its not about that its about the right food option. lol when i said 1000 calorie shakes will store fat i was implying that fruit wouldnt store fat(unless your eating like 5 or more pieces?) and moving on that it wasnt an ideal source of macronutirents before you sleep. also i was implying that you NEED fat when you sleep.

this dicussion is completely lost people are giving opinions on fruit and fat when thats completely irrelavent. eat something else THATS the answer. and if your trying to diet down do some research not ask 100 people that all claim to be gurus.

[Specter]

im confused is this guy wondering about fruit and fat for bulking? or is he on a diet? he just made a general statement that should be addressed for the quality of the food source not for the fat storing molecular structure. so you should look to a better source of food at that time of night.

and ill repeat myself while he hasnt specified for which application hes eating the fruit for i assume its weightlifting. for this application before you sleep you want long lasting carbohydrate sources and dense food that can slow the release of protein eg peanut butter, milk etc with fat aswell.

eat as much fruit as you want if your training hard it wont matter but its not about that its about the right food option. lol when i said 1000 calorie shakes will store fat i was implying that fruit wouldnt store fat(unless your eating like 5 or more pieces?) and moving on that it wasnt an ideal source of macronutirents before you sleep. also i was implying that you NEED fat when you sleep.

this dicussion is completely lost people are giving opionions on fruit and fat when thats completely irrelavent. eat something else THATS the answer. and if your trying to diet down do some research not ask 100 people that all claim to be gurus.

But you're encouraging unhealthy eating by repeating bullshit yourself. Why should normal healthy people avoid fruit? Its scaremongering based on research on high fructose corn syrup. Many fruits are better sources of fibre than other carbs. Fibre is very good for you and most people dont eat enough. I think its ridiculous to take fructose in isolation and say eat something else. Thats NOT the answer. Youre not doing yourself any favours making so many assumptions yourself.

This forum would be much improved if some people took a step back and stopped trying to argue semantics and piddly irrelevant points.

[Beef]

if i wanted to lose fat will eating heaps of fruit instead of complex carbs at night store fat?

going back to the OP, the simple answer would be no. how much fruit do you mean by heaps?

:clap: well said, specter

[trainharder]

the original question was will fruit at night make you fat

and no it wont if you are on a very low calorie diet and burning lots of calories.

I feel youre also making a blanket statement by saying that fruit wont make you fat if youre on a very low calorie diet and burning lots of calories. Both points are true but not necessary.

Fruit wont make you fat if youre not on a very low calorie diet or not burning lots of calories. You only need a calorie deficit. It doesnt have to be extreme and you dont have to kill yourself burning lots of calories either.

I think you only need to be scared of fruit if you suffer hereditary fructose intolerance or fructose malabsorption. Both are conditions in which the liver enzymes that break up fructose are deficient.

If you believe wikipedia "Fructose is absorbed in the small intestine without help of digestive enzymes. However, even in healthy people, only about 25-50 g of fructose per sitting can be absorbed."

25g of fructose equates to a pretty big serving of fruit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose_malabsorption

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_fructose_intolerance

i dont see what i said as a blanket statement.

basically said the same things you said if you read all the threads

its all about calories in etc. which is what people dieting or gaining weight should realise

and if you are training for bodybuilding etc you try get the portions ant timings right but the originator of this thread did not elude to what hes achieving besides loosing fat

a blanket statement is what emc said

"1000 calorie shake before bed will put on fat"

without refering to anything else the person taking the shake is consuming during the day or lifestyle or exersize etc

[EMC]

im confused is this guy wondering about fruit and fat for bulking? or is he on a diet? he just made a general statement that should be addressed for the quality of the food source not for the fat storing molecular structure. so you should look to a better source of food at that time of night.

and ill repeat myself while he hasnt specified for which application hes eating the fruit for i assume its weightlifting. for this application before you sleep you want long lasting carbohydrate sources and dense food that can slow the release of protein eg peanut butter, milk etc with fat aswell.

eat as much fruit as you want if your training hard it wont matter but its not about that its about the right food option. lol when i said 1000 calorie shakes will store fat i was implying that fruit wouldnt store fat(unless your eating like 5 or more pieces?) and moving on that it wasnt an ideal source of macronutirents before you sleep. also i was implying that you NEED fat when you sleep.

this dicussion is completely lost people are giving opionions on fruit and fat when thats completely irrelavent. eat something else THATS the answer. and if your trying to diet down do some research not ask 100 people that all claim to be gurus.

But you're encouraging unhealthy eating by repeating bullshit yourself. Why should normal healthy people avoid fruit? Its scaremongering based on research on high fructose corn syrup. Many fruits are better sources of fibre than other carbs. Fibre is very good for you and most people dont eat enough. I think its ridiculous to take fructose in isolation and say eat something else. Thats NOT the answer. Youre not doing yourself any favours making so many assumptions yourself.

fruit is awesome during the day like pre workout or as a filler with other foods and your right its an awesome source of fibre especially bananas. fruit is a part of a healthy diet, but not at night, and in moderation. weightlifting which is what i assume this is about because like i said he wasnt speicified so any sort of diet. point im trying to get to is any diet that involves fat consumption regardless of how much you will store is good.

my idea of healthy eating is not starving the body and the muscles, eating to aid recovery to train big again as soon as possible to avoid injury and progressively gain. your not going to maximise your gains by feeding your body fruit before you go to bed.

OP-needs to tell us why hes eating fruit and if hes trying to diet. its just pointless to give a lecture on the pros and cons of fruit. because food is food and every food has a purpose.

[Beef]

if your trying to diet down do some research not ask 100 people that all claim to be gurus.

you accused me of "spamming", yet come out with a pointless statement like this? you need to get over the fact that people will have different opinions, and realise that your opinion aint always the most valid. my 2c

[Specter]

i dont see what i said as a blanket statement.

basically said the same things you said if you read all the threads

its all about calories in etc. which is what people dieting or gaining weight should realise

and if you are training for bodybuilding etc you try get the portions ant timings right but the originator of this thread did not elude to what hes achieving besides loosing fat

a blanket statement is what emc said

"1000 calorie shake before bed will put on fat"

without refering to anything else the person taking the shake is consuming during the day or lifestyle or exersize etc

Not wishing to detract from the topic but I wasnt picking at you just trying to say that very low calories or burning lots of calories are blanket statements and not necessary requirements in order to be able to eat fruit. Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

At the end of the day its about calories in and calories out. I view "very low calorie" and "burning lots" as extreme and prefer to err on the side of a healthy approach to fat loss where a less extreme approach is likely to net the same results.

The emotional aspect of eating already exerts a huge influence over how many people approach diet and exercise.

[EMC]

if your trying to diet down do some research not ask 100 people that all claim to be gurus.

you accused me of "spamming", yet come out with a pointless statement like this? you need to get over the fact that people will have different opinions, and realise that your opinion aint always the most valid. my 2c

spamming i.e posting on every single thread whether its postive or negative. opinions dont matter and opinions dont get results, its about hard facts and thats why im advising he does his research. your also contradicting yourself. its pointless to research and educate yourself but its ok to ask people that may give you mixed information?(some may even be wrong). i think this is jefferys queue LOL

OP-needs to tell us why hes eating fruit and if hes trying to diet. its just pointless to give a lecture on the pros and cons of fruit. because fruit is food and every food has a purpose.

[Specter]

fruit is awesome during the day like pre workout or as a filler with other foods and your right its an awesome source of fibre especially bananas. fruit is a part of a healthy diet, but not at night, and in moderation

Says who? You? And based on what? In my humble opinion saying you cant eat this or cant eat that at any particular time is unhealthy. Its restrictive for a start and unfounded. Theres nothing proven to base such a statement on.

Something to think about. Bananas are actually a very poor source of fibre compared to some other fruits. They are also higher in fructose. Gram for gram raspberries have twice as much fibre as a banana. So if you think eating a lot of fruit at night is actually a cause for concern a more accurate thing to say might be watch what fruit you eat at night rather than dont eat fruit.

[Beef]

fruit is awesome during the day like pre workout or as a filler with other foods and your right its an awesome source of fibre especially bananas. fruit is a part of a healthy diet, but not at night, and in moderation

since "opinions dont matter" and "it's all about hard facts", give us some facts to back up what you're saying. talk about hypocritical :roll:

[EMC]

fruit is awesome during the day like pre workout or as a filler with other foods and your right its an awesome source of fibre especially bananas. fruit is a part of a healthy diet, but not at night, and in moderation

since "opinions dont matter" and "it's all about hard facts", give us some facts to back up what you're saying. talk about hypocritical :roll:

bla bla bla your interupting my stretching for this? for the application of strength training/weight lifting after training hard your going to want dense foods that can slow down the release of proteins and low GI carbohydrates also a bit of fat which will not only slow the digestion but stimulate your body to produce more hormones. do i really need to repeat myself? and do i really need to tell you why you want a slow release of proteins and carbohydrates during your sleep?

[EMC]

fruit is awesome during the day like pre workout or as a filler with other foods and your right its an awesome source of fibre especially bananas. fruit is a part of a healthy diet, but not at night, and in moderation

Says who? You? And based on what? In my humble opinion saying you cant eat this or cant eat that at any particular time is unhealthy. Its restrictive for a start and unfounded. Theres nothing proven to base such a statement on.

Something to think about. Bananas are actually a very poor source of fibre compared to some other fruits. They are also higher in fructose. Gram for gram raspberries have twice as much fibre as a banana. So if you think eating a lot of fruit at night is actually a cause for concern a more accurate thing to say might be watch what fruit you eat at night rather than dont eat fruit.

i only eat fruit during the day like i stated and you can eat anything anytime whenever you want like thousands of years ago and live a healthy lifestyle, but obviously strength training isnt normal to the body your placing your body under greater stress. so as we're doing something that isnt normal to the body you need to provide it with the right conditions to perform and recover. fruit is good during the day as a filler and for daily fibre and v&m but isnt the best source of carbohydrate.

you could eat fruit at night nothing wrong with that, and you wouldnt put on fat if your eating in moderation or ^ certain fruits however i believe through my knowledge and experience that there are better sources of food to eat before you sleep.---> for weight training benefits.

[Specter]

if your trying to diet down do some research not ask 100 people that all claim to be gurus.

you accused me of "spamming", yet come out with a pointless statement like this? you need to get over the fact that people will have different opinions, and realise that your opinion aint always the most valid. my 2c

spamming i.e posting on every single thread whether its postive or negative. opinions dont matter and opinions dont get results, its about hard facts and thats why im advising he does his research. your also contradicting yourself. its pointless to research and educate yourself but its ok to ask people that may give you mixed information?(some may even be wrong). i think this is jefferys queue LOL

OP-needs to tell us why hes eating fruit and if hes trying to diet. its just pointless to give a lecture on the pros and cons of fruit. because fruit is food and every food has a purpose.

Dude youve done nothing but spout shit this entire thread. Just admit defeat and go read another one.

The hard fact is that fruit doesnt make you fat provided you eat less calories than you consume and watch how much sugar youre eating.

But wait. Yes there are more variables. The only decent thing youve said EMC is without more info its pointless commenting further. People can advise based on assumptions or hypothesize but at the end of the day arguing all this "but he said" shit is just a big fat waste of time.

You two should go hire a motel room and slug it out between the sheets.

[EMC]

The hard fact is that fruit doesnt make you fat provided you eat less calories than you consume and watch how much sugar youre eating.

But wait. Yes there are more variables. The only decent thing youve said EMC is without more info its pointless commenting further. People can advise based on assumptions or hypothesize but at the end of the day arguing all this "but he said" shit is just a big fat waste of time.

yes this is what i said and i also never said that fruit will put on fat, i sarcastically said 1000 calorie shakes will put on fat. meaning fruit wouldnt put on that much and i moved on to explain why you need fat before you sleep at least for weight training. i also said there are better sources of food at night before you sleep for the benefits of weight training. so im not sure who you were trying to point this statement out to :?

The hard fact is that fruit doesnt make you fat provided you eat less calories than you consume and watch how much sugar youre eating.

[Specter]

however i believe through my knowledge and experience that there are better sources of food to eat before you sleep.---> for weight training benefits.

See it makes much more sense when you take the time to own your theories rather than simply instructing people not to eat fruit along with all the other irrelevant fluff.

[Nik Antunovich]

if i wanted to lose fat will eating heaps of fruit instead of complex carbs at night store fat?

I hope you have gathered some useful info from this thread rather than a headache.

First you need to ask yourself what your goals are, losing weight or adding muscle mass, and then base you diet around that. This being a BB website I expect you want to gain mass first of all. If you are a newbie to weight training and are already overweight you might even find you lose some fat while gaining lean mass, as odd as that sounds. Then after training for mass you can train to lose the flab. But different objectives need different inputs whether it's heavy weights and lots of food or training with a calorie deficit. I am currently flab man but I want to look good for the Canadian summer. I am lifting heavy (for me) and eating anything but with a focus on quality foods. If I eat Big Mac's and fries if I get a little hungry then it's no problem. If I were trying to lose weight then surplus carb's or calories are out whether during the day or at night. But then there are different ways to losing fat by different diets. Some diets consume very few carbs/day (maybe