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I have been a member on this site for around 5 years, have done around the same number of cycles and I still dont know it all, I and am constantly learning, with this subject IMHO you never know it all. With this in mind it becomes frustrating as hell when some newb comes on asking for 1. sources 2. what to take. or 3. when someone inexperienced gives advice to others. This is very dangerious and can only cause bad results.

Unless you have been training for a good few years and have exceptional knowledge on cycles and training do not give others advice.

I have heard of people being recommended doing Deca only cycles to hcg only cycles and all sorts that would be extremely damaging.

If you are new and are thinking to use steroids DONT. Train for at least 2 years naturally and make sure you have reached your natural potential before reaching for the needle. Research, go through tons of sites and read as much as possible, before you consider a cycle you should have read enough to know exactly what your cycle will be, how long you will be on for and what PCT you will be taking. If you have questions AFTER doing all of this then come on the site and ask questions or if you have done a cycle post your results etc.

Bring the forum back to what it used to be..

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make sure you have reached your natural potential before reaching for the needle.

Around 9 out of 10 people who use steroids dont do this!

I happen to be part of that 9!

I know natural bodybuilders that have trained for over 10 years

and they still have not hit their natural potential!

Its all about being smart and responsible IMO

Alot of people say wait till you reach your "Genetic Peak" before you start using gear..

Yet most of these people started pinning long before they reached their natural potential!

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There has been a big increase in new members frequenting & posting on the Steroids & Prohormones Forum. We have almost got to a level that existed on BBing.com a year or so ago where a mass of newbs starting overriding the forum with posts that were misleading & often down right dangerous in their content. As much as we would all like to talk about sources, prices, whats available & how good it is, its is just not the type of discussion that is acceptable given the legalities of using & selling gear in NZ & the ongoing integrity & security of the board for all members & the owners & administrators. If you want to discuss these matters you should do so at a personal level by secure email away from the PM system & the NZBB.co.nz site. This is just my personal opinion & just reflects whats happens on most boards that I frequent & is is in no way any reflection on how this board operates. I think this is a great discussion board, up with many top boards around the world & we are very fortunate to be able to access the variety of specialised knowledge that we see on here. Sorry about the rant!! :)

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Ok guys....i know this is towards me and maybe many others.

Please tell me when do i know i have reached my peak before i can consider taking roids?

And please tell me a web site that gives me info on the different types of gear compatible to make a good cycle.

I think thats a good place too start then.

Sorry to all about braging on... being unexperienced.

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I have learnt heaps on this fourm over the past eight months,

this site in my opinion is the best one for good info because its a New Zealand one,there are lots of other sites out there but they are so far away from us.

I also look at the others too,& gather all info,then work things out from there.Im up nearly every nite till 1 or 2 am,just checking out all types of steriods and most importantly ANCILLARIES.

I have a cycle planned for the near future,& when im ready to go,il post it up for some feed back and any advice that you guys have.

this site is da bomb. :discussion:

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I have been on this forum from day one and have seen guys and girls come and go but i would have to say there are more newbies looking at going on the gear and i know that at the gym the ones that are on will not talk to guys that come up and ask for help and what to do and that goes for the pro's to. you see they like to say they are natural and its food and hard training that got them the muscles. and what f*ck's me of the most all you newbies want to get big. what you dont know is that it takes years and years to get big and what your body shape is as the most muscle you will put on in one year on the gear is any thing from 500gm to 1 to 2 kg of muscle and to find that go is to have your body fat done at about 5% first and then start the gear and work on it for about two years and then get back down to 5% and see what you have gain and looks. you will not get to 100kg at 5% body fat from one or two cycles and also your height will dictate what your maximum muscle mass will get to to. the ones on here that know me will know what i am saying. one last thing its better to talk to someone that knows face to face and not on a web site as you don't know who you are dealing with. so good luck asking and reading.

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What it is.... i keen to get on the gear now. Reason you guys may tell me that i have a 1-2 yrs in me to train naturally. Or maybe adjust my training program or diet for a month or year BUT the way i look at it...is if i'm on it now i'll see better results being on it than not while trying your guys ideas.

Am i wrong?

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What it is.... i keen to get on the gear now. Reason you guys may tell me that i have a 1-2 yrs in me to train naturally. Or maybe adjust my training program or diet for a month or year BUT the way i look at it...is if i'm on it now i'll see better results being on it than not while trying your guys ideas.

Am i wrong?

Way I see it....just go for it...but if your cycle's go really bad for you and your nuts drop off and you start producing breast milk!...Would you come back here and post up your bad experience's when you were using gear as a warning to other noobs in the future like you who get it in their heads I wanna be big and ask the same repeatative questions as you are doing now? :clap:

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MATE!This is getting more and more interesting...Keep it up! \:D/

I would look at it that way bro: You found yourself thinking about roids and suddenly you realised you didn't know much about it so you thought you could come here and get advices from experienced people, wich you did and thats good.But now what happens is as people are giving you advices you seem not to be listening.Now with all the respect what I want to ask you is:notice that EVERYONE is telling you the same thing.How can they all be wrong?

Everyone is telling what they're telling you cuz they all know the stuff, and they don't want you to do shit.I'm pretty sure that in the future you're going to come back here and thank these guys and who knows you might be giving advices to other prople.

If you're decided and you're going take them,I know that it wont make a difference if we tell you not to cuz you'll end up doing it anyway and end of the day we can't grab your arms and stop you.Bur make sure you do the right thing so you dont regret.Trust me doing the wrong thing you will regret BIG.So take your time, research, keep asking,gather imformation,wright down if needed.It will take time until you find out what you really want.

I hope you think that trhu bro,Cheers and good luck

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Don't pack a waaa. Think of it as being similar to joining a gang. The research is your initiation. You've been tasked with finding out more about doing a cycle so that you can come back and ask more informed questions or speak the lingo.

Bad analogy I know but it was either that, doing time in the trenches or a crap reality TV show analogy. You're fired!

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It seems others have the same thoughts as me. If you are new to steroids do all the research you can. I have found steroid.com extremely helpful and if you can’t understand the reading on there you should not be using.

People seem to forget that steroids are powerful hormones and taken wrongly can really mess you up. The media has perceived steroids as some demon which we try to educate on the site about but them the very inexperienced jump on here thinking they are ready for the magic pill, mess themselves up then turn into the very people that say steroids kill. If you only did your research in the first place you would know..

Kendo, we are telling you not to take steroids from our own experience's here. You seem by your posts you are far too young and I would be surprised if you were over 20y/o. If this is the case forget roids completely for a few years as your natural testosterone is peaking, why f*ck that up??

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The way I see it is there are three sides to weight training - nutrition, supplements and training itself. A lot of people stall with their gains and then think it must be time to try a cycle. If these people focused more on their training and diet they would continue to progress. If you still want to progress once you have tapped out diet and training options, then run a cycle. Your gains will be far greater than if you decide to run a cycle without exhausting these options first.

I think you need at least 5-years of absolute balls to the wall consistency with your diet and training before looking at AAS. You need to know how to manipulate your diet to grow and how to get lean.

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The way I see it is there are three sides to weight training - nutrition, supplements and training itself. A lot of people stall with their gains and then think it must be time to try a cycle. If these people focused more on their training and diet they would continue to progress. If you still want to progress once you have tapped out diet and training options, then run a cycle. Your gains will be far greater than if you decide to run a cycle without exhausting these options first.

I think you need at least 5-years of absolute balls to the wall consistency with your diet and training before looking at AAS. You need to know how to manipulate your diet to grow and how to get lean.

Sound thinking - pretty much my pathway.

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