Strength is size

[coynte]

Interesting article: Strength is size.

"Strength is size. If you want ‘mass’, you need to get stronger with the big lifts. If you want ’symmetry’, well, you need to talk to your parents. Anything else is a function of leanness. Too many would-be bodybuilders just don’t realize this, and they stay both small and weak as a result. At least until they go on the sauce..."

"Now what about diet? This is the other pillar of gaining muscle and body-weight, and it’s just as much of a spectacular failure for most people..."

[Grover]

Beats me what this thread is supposed to be about?

More spam?

[coynte]

There's a link to an interesting article in the first post.

[Grover]

yeah and what virus am I going to get from that, post the article.

as a new member today hardly going to trust you!

[coynte]

epic lulz!

[Mr_Krabs]

That is a good read

Also that is PMan's site isnt it? (safe as houses im sure)

[ThePman]

I only give viruses to every 5th click, so you've got better than average odds.

[coynte]

And the follow up article: The fallout.

"Strength is Size. This particular argument is as old as arguing on the Internet, and maybe even older. There are so many misconceptions about this that I actually devoted a whole section in Maximum Muscle to debunking the common myths; so I’ll just give a brief summary of those points here..."

[steak]

both good reads. 8)

is that a cat running amoungst the pigeons

[Beef]

excellent article. a few members on this site need to realise this:

"Okay look, that’s fine if you’re already big and trying to maintain some degree of leanness. If you’re a little dude, just give it a rest. Seriously. I don’t care about your damn abs if you’re bitching about being stuck at 70kg for the last year.

Shut up and go eat a cheeseburger."

[Optimass]

nice one ...

lol'd at some of the comments

spacegv says: January 12, 2010 at 2:14 amMy aim is to look good while being Healthy?

I agree with you on many points, so please do not consider me as a Troll, but isn’t the cheeseburger approach killing Health ?

I did a TV pilot for the film school on the Shore a couple of years ago - was a debate on nutrition and obesity etc from a kiwi point of view. The had a couple of "qualified" Nutritionists come in from a local clinic and put their case forward about accessibility to junk food as a primary cause in child obesity. I was arguing the opposite being introduced as a gym owner on the panel ... as soon as they started knocking McDonalds I explained that I take my daughter (3) to McDonalds at least 2 times per month for a cheese burger .... next thing the whole responsible parenting concern came up :roll: - Any "qualified" nutritionist that knocks the mighty cheese burger is a fucken Muppet.

[coynte]

Hah, your daughter should sue you for child cruelty. Only two times per month, sheesh. What kind of parent are you? :naughty:

[Optimass]

Hah, your daughter should sue you for child cruelty. Only two times per month, sheesh. What kind of parent are you? :naughty:

yeah - probably right. Its more for my benefit than hers - "$15 combo = a large Mac Attack and 2 Cheese Burgers" :pfft: too many meals like that and I'll be giving Steak a run for his money

An interesting point is that when she was younger she ate the whole burger in one sitting. Now she eats only half the burger and then eats the balance later in the afternoon. Instinctive portion control! :clap: IMO - if parents obsess about whether their kids eat junk food or not, it can emphasise the negative.

[coynte]

IMO - if parents obsess about whether their kids eat junk food or not, it can emphasise the negative.

Making stuff inaccessible only serves to make it appear more attractive IYAM.

I feel sorry for schools, overburdened by political correctness bought about by obsessive parents and the overpublicised fallout that ensues when shit does hit the fan, to the point of switching kids off? If the school tuck shop doesn't sell the goods, you go off site to buy your hit. How many kids bother going back? Would be slightly interesting to track that.

Your comment re your daughter practising portion control is kinda interesting. Is gluttony inherited or learnt? :pfft:

Re strength is size and skinny guys scared of losing their abs:

Simon C says: January 13, 2010 at 11:26 am

Matt you’re changing the fucking world! One skinny as prick at a time!

Hoorah!

[EMC]

good reads.

you know even the people that do eat right that dont put on weight usually dont train right.

they think that doing the right exercises will make them grow...people never really take time to evaluate their strengths and weaknesses because its usually theyre weaknesses that stop them from making gains..STRENGTH GAINS which are MASS gains and MUSCLE MASS gains.

[Beef]

i always thought volume training was most effective- fatiguing the muscle as much as possible then giving it a week to recover. pman's site makes a good case against this :nod:

[EMC]

i always thought volume training was most effective- fatiguing the muscle as much as possible then giving it a week to recover. pman's site makes a good case against this :nod:

alot of people will agree that COMPLETELY breaking the muscle down week after week is unproductive and is bound to result in injury...infact for me when i have a complete break down of a muscle its totally unproductive. for example: triceps that have been delayed in recovery due to high volume chest day that is prolonged to my shoulder routine that not only is a muscle injury risk but it doenst allow me to push at my peak on shoulder day which will not give the same nueral response and over all strength gain (mass/muscle gain).

[Beef]

thats why you space out your workouts mate

i.e do chest earlier in the week than triceps and shoulders

[startinfromscratch]

yep, ive recently changed to training that is strength focussed, with periodisation. best thing ive ever done.

[thatwaslight]

good reading, go the p man

[Jeffrey]

good