The direction of NABBA in NZ

[agent86]

[MOD EDIT: Topic split from NABBA Calendar]

Great work on getting the calendar out by Christmas before NZFBB. Looks absolutely amazing if things fall into line with International Events. A few competitors might be reassessing there plans for next year over the Christmas break. It is something that will hopefully propel us forward into 2010 into uncharted but exciting waters.

Come on Graeme Lancefield let bygones be bygones and lets go forward.

[hawks]

Great work on getting the calendar out by Christmas before NZFBB. Looks absolutely amazing if things fall into line with International Events. A few competitors might be reassessing there plans for next year over the Christmas break. It is something that will hopefully propel us forward into 2010 into uncharted but exciting waters.

Come on Graeme Lancefield let bygones be bygones and lets go forward.

Well actually Pitt and Poole should stand down and then we might see some movement from over the ditch . If you new what the history you would understand why should Graham forgive them after those people slandered him , i dont see them forthcomming with an apology

[Outlaw53]

Great work on getting the calendar out by Christmas before NZFBB. Looks absolutely amazing if things fall into line with International Events. A few competitors might be reassessing there plans for next year over the Christmas break. It is something that will hopefully propel us forward into 2010 into uncharted but exciting waters.

Come on Graeme Lancefield let bygones be bygones and lets go forward.

It will be a cold day in hell before Graeme will ever give Jim the time of day, and why should he any way?

The only way for NABBA to move forward in NZ is for Jim to either f*ck-off or pull his head from out of his arse.

He has single handedly fucked-up NABBA in NZ.

[Ann]

It will be a cold day in hell before Graeme will ever give Jim the time of day, and why should he any way?

The only way for NABBA to move forward in NZ is for Jim to either f*ck-off or pull his head from out of his arse.

He has single handedly fucked-up NABBA in NZ.

Yes mate - you've got that right :grin:

[agent86]

agent86 wrote

Great work on getting the calendar out by Christmas before NZFBB. Looks absolutely amazing if things fall into line with International Events. A few competitors might be reassessing there plans for next year over the Christmas break. It is something that will hopefully propel us forward into 2010 into uncharted but exciting waters.

Come on Graeme Lancefield let bygones be bygones and lets go forward.

Outlaw53 wrote

It will be a cold day in hell before Graeme will ever give Jim the time of day, and why should he any way?

The only way for NABBA to move forward in NZ is for Jim to either f*ck-off or pull his head from out of his arse.

He has single handedly fucked-up NABBA in NZ.

I was getting excited about the prospect and expressing my hopes for a reallignment with Australia. I know Graeme's thoughts on Nabba NZ's hierachy. If Graeme hasn't changed his mind then the latest Calendar is just pie in the sky.

[Starfish]

It will be a cold day in hell before Graeme will ever give Jim the time of day, and why should he any way?

why?

whats the problem?

[Ann]

This is a "SO CALLED OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL NEWS BRIEF"

The finding of the Executive Committee will be confirmed at the 2007 Worlds in Greece. In accordance with the NABBA International Inc rules and regulations which govern all incorporated bodies.

Release Date: 21st October 2001

Warning to Athletes

Graeme Lancefield is falsely representing himself as a NABBA President. He is misleading athletes, sponsors and the general public of Australia, and the sport of Body Building. Legal action is currently being taken for these reasons.

Graeme Lancefield has no standing in the Official NABBA International.

Extract from Minutes of Meeting:

2001 NABBA World Congress

8 June 2001, Alicante` Spain

Jose Lopez is the rightful President of NABBA Australia, since his appointment in 1984. This gives him the rights to trade under the name of NABBA Australia, as per the NABBA International Constitution and Rules.

In 1999, at the International Universe Congress, the Australian President Jose Lopez requested temporary leave of absence from NABBA Australia. This was granted.

NABBA International is committed to bringing back law and order to our great association of countries. We look forward to working together for the common aim of promoting Body Building throughout the World.

Regards

Jim PItt

NABBA International

Secretary General

That's part of the reason why mate. Hell will freeze over before Graeme will give Jim Pitt any light of day - and I don't blame him. Wasn't that nice of Mr Pitt to slander Graeme's name all over the place not to mention the following:

OFFICIAL REPORT of the 2001 WORLD CONGRESS

8 June 2001, Alicante` Spain

* It was confirmed at the World Congress that Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffman and Anargiros Tsopouridis were ‘Officially Expelled’ from all NABBA International and National Positions. The above named have been found guilty of gross misconduct; for the use of subversive tactics, for circulating misleading information, for running the bogus Championships in Austria as a diversion away from their misconduct, and for the unaccountability for funds that (one or more of them) have in their holdings. Legal proceedings are now being actioned against these persons.

Because of the current turmoil in the United Kingdom, it was approved that the 2001 NABBA International Universe Championships would be held in Macon, France, on 6th October 2001.

* It was confirmed that NABBA International stands independently and has no affiliation to WFF (World Fitness Federation)

NABBA International is committed to bringing back law and order to our great association of countries. We look forward to working together for the common aim of promoting Body Building throughout the World.

Regards,

Jose Lopez

NABBA International

World President

Jim Pitt

NABBA International

Secretary General

This man Jim is running Nabba NZ - and competitors still compete for him? Piss off - NZ - its about bloody time everyone woke up!

[musclenz]

No doubt a lot of shit has gone down & there is a lot more to it than that, as some on here know. There is no place for this sort of politics in any sport. Certainly it should not be allowed to influence the way competitors in our sport get treated. Hope to be able to give more information from Graeme's office tomorrow.

As there are now 3 threads discussing the rise & fall of the "NABBA's, I suggest we keep all relevant comments on the matter in this thread if that suits everyone.

[Ann]

Sure. :nod:

[musclenz]

Apologies for not getting back to interested members. At this time I can only advise that there is definite dialog going on between the groups involved with NABBA in New Zealand & Australia. The outcome of these discussions will determine the direction we move forward in 2010. Some changes are inevitable. They are required to allow NABBA in NZ to move forward in a positive & dynamic way. These are truely exciting times for Bodybuilding in this country. Watch this space

Happy New Year to All.

[Optimass]

:pray:

[Outlaw53]

Any news on how things are going between Graeme and Jim?

I'm tipping there will be no change as far as Australia is concerned.

[musclenz]

Any news on how things are going between Graeme and Jim?

I'm tipping there will be no change as far as Australia is concerned.

I think it is fair to say that negotiations have been strained for sure. There is somewhat of a stalemate going on at present. Every opportunity has been given to the existing NABBA NZ Executive to be part of a new affiliation with NABBA /WFF in Australia & thus NABBA International led both by Graeme Lancefield. As of writing this I am unaware of any further dialogue forthcoming from the NZ Administration. It would appear then, that they will continue with operating under the same conditions & objectives that has been their doctrine over the last 8-9 years. These will not allow legitimate access to International Competitions & may further erode their standing in the International BBing community & reflect poorly on our best competitors. There is scheduled an AGM in Palmerston North on January 30th to announce the retirement of Mr Jim Pitt & the appointment of Mr Peter Hardwick to President. We are uncertain as to whether members have been informed of this & there does not appear to be any announcement on their website. In the meantime a growing number of people that have been or are part of the NABBA community in NZ, are seeking a positive change which will allow affiliation with the Australian body. Given the complexities involved the "powers that be" have opted to not go public at this stage in proceedings but an announcement is imminent as to what form this will take & how it will be structured & where competitions will be held in 2010.

[jimjim83]

why doesnt somebody start up another NABBA that is recognised by the official NABBA so athletes can go over seas??

[genetic freek]

OMG what a great idea. Why has no one does this? Can't think why...

[musclenz]

why doesnt somebody start up another NABBA that is recognised by the official NABBA so athletes can go over seas??

We can create our own reality :wink:

[Ann]

We can create our own reality :wink:

:grin:

[AllenNZ]

Just been looking at the AUS NABBA Competition Dates for 2010 and i have noticed that each state have two comps per year. The first lot all run in May with one in June and that qualifies for the real NABBA International World Championships and later in the year they do the same so they qualify for the NABBA National were they qualify for the real NABBA International Universe. So if some of you kiwis want to do this then you will need to start looking at booking airline tickets. I for one like the ones in the Gold Coast as the numbers are very good.

[hawks]

why doesnt somebody start up another NABBA that is recognised by the official NABBA so athletes can go over seas??[/well i think they actually are . hardwick is just trying to monopolise the bodybuilding shows , he has inba as well , as long as those old cronies are involved in the sport in this country it will never go forward . They need to go .

[Outlaw53]

There are some serious problems that I can see regarding some of these posts.

Firstly, you can't run two NABBA federations in the one country.

The fact of the matter is that Jim and his 'fake' NABBA have been trading as NABBA for many years now.

Even though they are fake, 'real' NABBA cannot just rock up and also trade as NABBA.

'Fake' NABBA would never allow another NABBA to start up in NZ.

They would have them booted out in a hot minute.

Something like this was tried years ago in Australia with Musclemania and ANB.

It resulted in an embarrassing back down and public apology from ANB.

Try starting up a restaurant in NZ called McDonald's are see how far you get.

Two NABBA's in NZ will not happen.

The second problem I see is with Peter Hardwick taking over NABBA NZ.

This is certainly a massive conflict with his INBA duties.

I find it hard to believe that the INBA would allow one of their promoters to run a federation that openly allows the use of drugs, (NABBA).

I can't see how Peter can wear both hats?

You guys sure do come up with some strange ideas over there.

[Grover]

You guys sure do come up with some strange ideas over there

spoken like a true Aussie

What do you think is the solution?

[Ann]

This question is aimed at NZ Nabba and their reps. Why is it that no-one has been told of Jim Pitts retirement and that Peter Hardwick will be taking over the presidency - with not so much as even a meeting to discuss it? So much for a democratic election. Or could it be that even the reps didn't know of this? If they didn't know - then my apologies, but if they did - what a piss poor excuse for representatives. You need to inform the people who have elected you. Stop making up your own rules as you go along - and for godsake, lets start thinking about the competitors and not your own bloody agendas!

[hawks]

well all i got to say about the situation of bodybuilding in NZ is that its FCKED .It has been run down by people with there own agenders for a long time and will take a bit of getting back on the right track .Both NABBA and IFBB have got issues here in this country and its a shame . We used to have great shows here , and i can even remember people been told they couldnt compete because there builds were not of a high enough standard , sheesh now we got shape , athletic , i think they are even going to have a saggy arse devision . People can turn pro here and not even win a national title , what the fcks with that . Sadly it is just one big joke .Hope our aussie mates dont laugh to hard at us . :grin:

[Ann]

sheesh now we got shape , athletic , i think they are even going to have a saggy arse devision . People can turn pro here and not even win a national title , what the fcks with that . Sadly it is just one big joke .Hope our aussie mates dont laugh to hard at us [/quotey]

The Aussies are laughing so hard at us - they're pissing themselves :toilet: :pfft:

[Ann]

sheesh now we got shape , athletic , i think they are even going to have a saggy arse devision . People can turn pro here and not even win a national title , what the fcks with that . Sadly it is just one big joke .Hope our aussie mates dont laugh to hard at us

The Aussies are laughing so hard at us they're pissing themselves :toilet: :pfft: