Tendonitis

[Gasp]

Seem to have been struck down with some bad tendonitis lately.

Has affected knees and shoulders.

No reason for it except it seemed to coincide with hitting 50 and taking a week off training and limiting my diet that week.

Apart from eating a bucket load of voltarin every day has anyone else had it and know of some ways to combat this problem.

[PTinCHCH]

strapping helps me.

strap the shit outta your affected areas and favor them for months!

[Gasp]

Thanks PT.I will probably have to.

I`ve pretty much had a rule not to strap until I get 180 on squats. The trouble is I`m getting to the stage where even the first set(60kg) is the most painful and I need to strap heaps earlier.

[genetic freek]

Bro, if it hurts then wrap it! Why hurt it?

I hear that good deep tissue massage is very good for it. :grin:

[SoaringSwine]

Get sleeves instead of straps. Glucosamine is awesome, and if you're not already start taking heaps of fish oil!

[Milkey]

I've got it in my right knee and yeah its a byarch!!! When squatting make sure your knees dont go past your toes as this loads up the patella tendon a lot more.And push through your heels.I apologise if Im telling you to suck eggs. I also ice my knee after leg workouts to stop inflammation.

Don't let a Dr stick any cortisone in them as this did absolutely nuffin for me.

The only running I do is on a treadmill. Make sure you are stretching to keep the tendons flexible so less likely to result in the micro-tears that happen when you work out.

I've had mine for a few years now. And going from ball sports, harsh leg workouts and powerlifting to bugger all is really hard on the

Apart from that couldnt say anything else. Just try not to make them hurt.Tendonitis is pretty bad.There's not a lot they can do with it. Just ask Rafael Nadal about it :nod:

[ThePman]

I've got it in my right knee and yeah its a byarch!!! When squatting make sure your knees dont go past your toes as this loads up the patella tendon a lot more.

It's no wonder so many people are afraid to actually squat right.

If you're actually using a full ROM on the squat, there will be an increase in patellar tendon shear-force right around parallel...which is also off-set by co-contraction of the hamstrings, which will in turn bear most of the load.

The body isn't so badly designed that putting a joint through a full ROM is going to hurt it, unless you're already inflexible somewhere in the chain.

[teamfatboy]

Newbie Question: could tendonitis (or a similar inflammation) affect the ITB?

For a while now I've been experiencing what I just put down to DOMS after quads, but after a bit of reading (and reacquainting myself with what DOMS really does feel like in other muscle groups), I was thinking it was something else but didn't know what.

It's not the patellar tendon, it's not runners' knee, and I suspect it may be my lack of post-wo stretching coming back to bite me.

[Gasp]

:shock: Thanks everyone....The knowledge base here is astounding!!!

Looks like sleeves over the knees with copius amounts of deep heat underneath with more stretching (especially hamstrings) before and after and the leather between the teeth while squating.

Off to the gym now topped up with nufofen, creatine and SuperPump 250.

I`ii hopefully put this all into practice and report back.

[ThePman]

Newbie Question: could tendonitis (or a similar inflammation) affect the ITB?

For a while now I've been experiencing what I just put down to DOMS after quads, but after a bit of reading (and reacquainting myself with what DOMS really does feel like in other muscle groups), I was thinking it was something else but didn't know what.

It's not the patellar tendon, it's not runners' knee, and I suspect it may be my lack of post-wo stretching coming back to bite me.

There's a whole lot of things that can cause knee pain. Tight IT band, or poor tissue quality, can be one contributor.

I strongly suspect this has to do with my recent VMO tear, in fact; maybe due to some weird mis-firing issue, because I'd been noticing spasms and a few severe trigger points in the ITB leading up to the muscle tear (on the other side of the leg, go figure). Be careful with it.

[Milkey]

I've got it in my right knee and yeah its a byarch!!! When squatting make sure your knees dont go past your toes as this loads up the patella tendon a lot more.

It's no wonder so many people are afraid to actually squat right.

If you're actually using a full ROM on the squat, there will be an increase in patellar tendon shear-force right around parallel...which is also off-set by co-contraction of the hamstrings, which will in turn bear most of the load.

The body isn't so badly designed that putting a joint through a full ROM is going to hurt it, unless you're already inflexible somewhere in the chain.

Its not a case of being afraid to squat right. I've done squats ever since I was 15,now 33, and always have a full range of motion. Hammys hit my calves.

I have noticed that when I push with a bit more force in the fore foot the knees extend over the toes and the shear force increases a lot.

Everyone is different and no one has the same length bones and creates the same angles during a squat.

Just speaking from trial and error and hundreds of dollars in physio bills.

I swear by the squat. Its just when you have something like tendonitis you have to try change the levers a tad to minimise any injury and listen to your body.

[ThePman]

I have noticed that when I push with a bit more force in the fore foot the knees extend over the toes and the shear force increases a lot.

Why are you pushing through the front of your foot? That's going to be your problem right there (engaging quads vs. hamstrings), not the fact that your knees are coming over your toes.

If you drive through the heels it won't be an issue.

[Milkey]

I don't normally. Was just trying different angles to see what aggravated the injury and how it felt, a bit of research. And I found the more I put my knees forward, e.g. more pressure on forefoot the more pain it caused. The more I stuck my butt out and drove through the heels the better it was.

Just offering some things that I've picked up on with regards to the patella tendon issue.

So you reckon that when you get down below parallel that the hammies hold it all together and limit the shear forces?

[ThePman]

And I found the more I put my knees forward, e.g. more pressure on forefoot the more pain it caused. The more I stuck my butt out and drove through the heels the better it was.

So you reckon that when you get down below parallel that the hammies hold it all together and limit the shear forces?

Ya, that seems to be the gist of it. Trying to drive through the toes or front of the foot is going to pitch you forwards and make the lift all wonky. Trying to sit down (or back, depending on your style) while pushing through the heels is going to put you in a much better position, and you really do need that co-contraction of the hams to protect the knee during the squatting motion.

Otherwise you end up like all those other jerks that high-squat 60kg and complain about knee pain.

[Gym rat]

Just to parrell for squats anythingh below parrell is not good for the knee it fucks your knees up

[SoaringSwine]

Just to parrell for squats anythingh below parrell is not good for the knee it fucks your knees up

:naughty: Don't believe everything you hear GR.

[Gasp]

Get sleeves instead of straps. Glucosamine is awesome, and if you're not already start taking heaps of fish oil!

Good call SS....Pretty much took on all of that and introduced fish oil daily. Put sleeves on both knees in the end with deep heat/tiger balm underneath and including the lower hamstrings.

I did a warm up which included about 50 half squats with no weight just to get the heat up.

Once I started to use the weights the tendons were beginning to enjoy it.

The workout ended up;

60kgs x 10

80 x 10

100 x 10

140 x 5

160 x 3

180 x 8

160 x 10

I used knee wraps over the sleeves with the 180s..... and yes I went deeper than parallel GR.