Is having milk?

[boostinggtir]

Is having green/lowfat milk before bed maybe not a good idea wile dieting? Im having around 1lt. Getting a low cal casein protein powder would be better for my goals?

So far I've lost 12kg, am now 99kg. Now is where the real work begins as the next 10kg lost will be getting lean. Cheers

[Luigi]

20kg thats a huge cut..

[boostinggtir]

Meh, I wasn't joking when I said I was holding plenty of chub. I expect to be pretty lean 90kg. Abs stating to come through, but still have significant flab at 99.

[ThePman]

Is having green/lowfat milk before bed maybe not a good idea wile dieting? Im having around 1lt. Getting a low cal casein protein powder would be better for my goals?

So far I've lost 12kg, am now 99kg. Now is where the real work begins as the next 10kg lost will be getting lean. Cheers

I don't think there's anything wrong with milk in itself, but 1L is quite a few calories.

If it works into your daily totals, why not? If it's too many calories, you may have to drop it.

That said, I do like a nice combo of cottage cheese + whey before bed. Not that I think it terribly matters, but being loaded up on slow-releasing protein can't hurt anything.

[soundsgood]

What are you up to bro? A litre of milk before bed? Why?

You wanna get your protein in sure, but theres too many carbs in Milk. Have a chicken breast or half a dozen eggs whites with one yolk, and a single serve protein shake.

[boostinggtir]

haha, Have been drinking it for the casein. But yea, it does kind of contradict my diet, cutting carbs earlier on in the day only to load up before bed. Hadn't been a issue for my initial weight loss, but it is probably counter-productive at this point in my diet. :pfft: Cheers

[ThePman]

I don't even care about the carbs. I'm just looking at the calorie intake.

EDIT: A quick look at a label gives 34g pro, 48g carbs, and 340kcal.

If that 340 cal doesn't put you over your daily target, I don't see a problem with it.

[soundsgood]

Cutting carbs post workout is one of the most effective ways of dropping body fat. If you just look at the total calorie intake for the day you are missing valuable opportunities to drop more fat. Its all about timing.

[ThePman]

I'm not interested in arguing over the details. If you think that matters, by all means do so.

[boostinggtir]

Yea, cutting carbs post work out is a funny one. Sure it's extremely effective at cutting fat, but doesn't cutting carbs post workout lead to catabolism. Correct me if I'm wrong, when dieting, the norm is carbs for breakfast, an also pre an post work out.

[ThePman]

Yea, cutting carbs post work out is a funny one. Sure it's extremely effective at cutting fat, but doesn't cutting carbs post workout lead to catabolism. Correct me if I'm wrong, when dieting, the norm is carbs for breakfast, an also pre an post work out.

There's two ways to look at it. If you just consider the effect of each meal, then yeah, no carbs will result in a net increase in "fat burning".

The problem is when you look at it over the course of 24-hour fat balance, instead of just meal-by-meal, the result is more dependent on total calorie intake.

So you might increase fat-burning by dropping carbs...until you eat another meal. Over the course of a day, it doesn't really seem to matter. Realistically, the carb-cutoff idea just leads to you eating less food; reason being, you see people getting lean by eating carbs all times of day. If it were a function of carb timing, that wouldn't happen.

Carbs do have an "anti-catabolic" effect, but it really depends on a few other variables as to how powerful that is. If you're not training with a ton of volume to deplete muscle glycogen, then the effect of carbs isn't very much. If you are training in a way that depletes glycogen, then replenishment is more important.

It really depends on how your total diet is set up. Personally I like low-carb diets for leaning out. That said, I've just never seen much utility to the nutrient-timing concept that couldn't be explained by just eating fewer calories. Low-carb diets tend to limit food intake by controlling appetite better and by encouraging high protein intake.

There's not much more to it than that. To be blunt, I wouldn't worry about the details. If you're getting enough protein, enough good fat, and then keeping calories under your target, I don't think the details matter much. Mentally, maybe, but not physically.