Help with Testosterone boosters.

[shet111]

Hi all,

I was hoping some of the more experienced people here could answer a few questions I have with Testosterone boosters?

I was looking at trying Novadex XT but want to know if there will be any side effects and also if you stop taking them after say a month or two will you deflate and loose the gains you have made?

I was also wondering is Novadex altered so it can be sold in NZ?

Thanks heaps

[matt.be]

To be honest bud most of these 'natural test boosters' are largely a waste of money.

But to answer your questions, sides; none really, some people experience low libido on it. Novedex is an aromitase inhibitor so it wont make you bloat/inflate, I think your getting confused with some types of steroids eg dbol, which do aromitise and can cause bloating. So no, if you do get any gains your not going to suddenly deflate when you come off.

If it was me I'd save the money and put it towards my grocery bill, but suppliments are fun so......

[Ordy]

Not sure about Novadex. But i just finished a bottle of Isa-Test and it worked very well.

Its a new double strength version (never tried the old one) and i was a little nervous about taking it to start with for the same reasons. But its designed to boost your natural testosterone creation and also lowers estrogen.

Good thing about it and other Isatori products are they are designed to be 'safe' as well.

[Pseudonym]

If it was me I'd save the money and put it towards my grocery bill, but suppliments are fun so......

I've just had a genius idea - chicken and tuna, but with holographic labels and wild claims of impossible growth. It's a guaranteed winner! I'll go halves on the profits with anyone who's willing to start the company.

[steak]

Not sure about Novadex. But i just finished a bottle of Isa-Test and it worked very well.

Its a new double strength version (never tried the old one) and i was a little nervous about taking it to start with for the same reasons. But its designed to boost your natural testosterone creation and also lowers estrogen.

Good thing about it and other Isatori products are they are designed to be 'safe' as well.

my levels went up using the Isa-Test but I upped the dose to 4 pre work out and 2 before bed on training days and 4 before bed on non training. Im 120kg and figured the dose was designed for 80kg guys well thats my excuse.

[nemesis]

If it was me I'd save the money and put it towards my grocery bill, but suppliments are fun so......

I've just had a genius idea - chicken and tuna, but with holographic labels and wild claims of impossible growth. It's a guaranteed winner! I'll go halves on the profits with anyone who's willing to start the company.

Don't forget to include the independent and totally credible scientific study that proves the possible gains! :shifty:

oh and I almost forgot, chuck in some really long latin-ish words on the packaging and advertising that explains why this "REALLY WORKS" :doh: ya know, like "our scientists found the newly discovered ectophloremic cells, and with our formula which includes huge doses of triascalorphukedovor you can blah blah ya get the point.

I'm in, who's got the chickens????

[Ordy]

my levels went up using the Isa-Test but I upped the dose to 4 pre work out and 2 before bed on training days and 4 before bed on non training. Im 120kg and figured the dose was designed for 80kg guys well thats my excuse.

yeah, i was about 78kg when i started it, on its own i dont think it would be the best supplement on it own, unless you are mainly after the 'libido' support =p

But with creatine and a pre workout i had very good gains.

Ill try it by itself next time.

[nate225]

Testosterone boosters = BS :pfft:

Grab you squotum & squeeze those testes really hard, that sick feeling in your stomach is a massive release of testosterone. Do this three times upon waking & three times before bed. :pfft:

The only thing that would boost endogenous T production in a normally functioning male is likely to be HCG (acting to increase LH levels thus stimulating Leydig Cells in the Testes). This is a prescription only item in NZL (and not currently available even for legitimate cases).

PS for any newbie who hasn't work out what :pfft: means, let us know how you progress!! :grin:

[Ordy]

Testosterone boosters = BS :pfft:

Grab you squotum & squeeze those testes really hard, that sick feeling in your stomach is a massive release of testosterone. Do this three times upon waking & three times before bed. :pfft:

The only thing that would boost endogenous T production in a normally functioning male is likely to be HCG (acting to increase LH levels thus stimulating Leydig Cells in the Testes). This is a prescription only item in NZL (and not currently available even for legitimate cases).

PS for any newbie who hasn't work out what :pfft: means, let us know how you progress!! :grin:

Ahh ok... I've used the stuff myself and it worked fine for me :roll:

[nate225]

Testosterone boosters = BS :pfft:

Grab you squotum & squeeze those testes really hard, that sick feeling in your stomach is a massive release of testosterone. Do this three times upon waking & three times before bed. :pfft:

The only thing that would boost endogenous T production in a normally functioning male is likely to be HCG (acting to increase LH levels thus stimulating Leydig Cells in the Testes). This is a prescription only item in NZL (and not currently available even for legitimate cases).

PS for any newbie who hasn't work out what :pfft: means, let us know how you progress!! :grin:

Ahh ok... I've used the stuff myself and it worked fine for me :roll:

So you got full hormone panels done before and during?

Or did you just feel like it worked? Wait, maybe you got moody and got some acne? Could be your estrogen went up instead! :pfft:

I would be keen to see some real scientific evidence to support so-called Testosterone boosters.

IMHO I say save your money, if you want more testosterone inject some. Plenty of studies to show that stuff works! :nod: And in reality the side effects could only be the same as you'd get if you some how magically increased your endogenous test.

I'm not suggesting anyone should go on the juice, but hey, if you're trying to increase testosterone whats the difference, apart from one methods proven & the other potentially puts your health at risk with no proven benefits? No moral difference in my view. Steroids & Test Boosters (if they actually worked) = performance enhancers.

[Ordy]

Naw, achne wasnt an issue.

Made me stupid Horney all the time, and i did get a lot stronger faster than usual. (Not long before was rather sick and lost weight and strength)

In the end, i used the product and i had good results.

lol you sound like my friend, more keen to inject stuff and don't believe anything else will work. I know roids are more powerful, but they are also illegal, even with a 'prescription' i cant see the law letting it go.

Big difference is legality of the products But yeah, until you try something you cant just knock it and say it doesn't work. Cause from my personal use so far, everything I've used as worked (though some better than others).

[rose]

I've just had a genius idea - chicken and tuna, but with holographic labels and wild claims of impossible growth. It's a guaranteed winner! I'll go halves on the profits with anyone who's willing to start the company.

I'm in, who's got the chickens????

Would you guys be silent partners willing to inject wads of cash or are you control freaks who'd wanna get more involved and start changing shit when you realised this was actually profitable? :think: :pfft: 8)

[nate225]

Naw, achne wasnt an issue.

Made me stupid Horney all the time, and i did get a lot stronger faster than usual. (Not long before was rather sick and lost weight and strength)

In the end, i used the product and i had good results.)

Ummm.... training boosts testosterone levels (not hugely, but significant none the less).

lol you sound like my friend, more keen to inject stuff and don't believe anything else will work. I know roids are more powerful, but they are also illegal, even with a 'prescription' i cant see the law letting it go.

Not that keen on needles myself Ordy, and have been covered by drug testing for most of my lifting life. However I remain objective, hate swallowing psuedo-science, and look at things from a risk:benefit perspective! If somethings gonna blow a drug test (test:Epitest ratios) it doesn't matter how it happened, it still equals a 2 year ban.

Big difference is legality of the products But yeah, until you try something you cant just knock it and say it doesn't work. Cause from my personal use so far, everything I've used as worked (though some better than others).

Fair enough Ordy, good point about legality.

At the end of the day if you're progressing you're doing something right, so stick with it.

On that note I found a product that cost me $5 for 2 weeks, and in that

time I put on 4kg (and 3.6kg when I used again) with very minimal BF increase (< 1% each time). My old training partner found the same, as did another PLing Champ in Aussie & a handful of Aussie BBers. Here's the clue - it's in the homebrew section at your supermarket! :grin: Good Luck!

[rose]

On that note I found a product that cost me $5 for 2 weeks, and in that time I put on 4kg (and 3.6kg when I used again) with very minimal BF increase (< 1% each time). My old training partner found the same, as did another PLing Champ in Aussie & a handful of Aussie BBers. Here's the clue - it's in the homebrew section at your supermarket!

It's either sugar, yeast, or the bottle caps! :pfft:

[thatwaslight]

i have used the scrotum squeezing method and found it to be very effective, but be warned take it easy on those natural test boosters last time i took tribulus i broke out with cycstic acne, started to bald, sleepless nights, pumps so bad i couldnt walk.

EAT SOME REAL F**KING FOOD! IF YOUR AFTER SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY HELP YOUR TRAINING BUY MORE TUNA!!!! if you want something to help you out in the bedroom go to the mens clinic and get some nasal delivery technology.

I just use dat dere cell tech......

[rose]

How about food + ATG squats? 8)

[thatwaslight]

How about food + ATG squats? 8)

Can you take that in a pill though?

:pfft:

[nate225]

On that note I found a product that cost me $5 for 2 weeks, and in that time I put on 4kg (and 3.6kg when I used again) with very minimal BF increase (< 1% each time). My old training partner found the same, as did another PLing Champ in Aussie & a handful of Aussie BBers. Here's the clue - it's in the homebrew section at your supermarket!

It's either sugar, yeast, or the bottle caps! :pfft:

:pfft: nothing Rose, you're very close!

Although you could probably eat 4kg of bottle caps in a week, and get no increase in bodyfat, it aint bottlecaps!

[rose]

you're very close!

You make your own beer? :shifty:

[rose]

Can you take that in a pill though?

I guess that's the problem aye? :wink:

[Ordy]

lol, sweet as. Just sounded like you were pro roids. Didnt mean to say you did use them.

Atm, im just eating quite a lot, taking weight gainer and protein as different shakes and a pre workout sup and gaining about a kg a week.

[nate225]

you're very close!

Awww no fair, I'll have to stake out the home brew section now. Unless it's really really really cheap cheap dodgy beer which must be bloody disgusting to drink at $5 for 2 weeks worth :pfft: :-s Wait, do you sip it 10ml a day :shifty:

LOL funly enough you do have to do a lot of sipping with this!

It's a protocol thats pretty demanding, but if anyone's actually serious, PM me and I'll let you know the details.

2 weeks is a long 14 days doing this, but the results are as close to steroid like as I've found, (not with strength but with lean mass gain), and I have the ISAK bodycomps from our trials to show it. Can't see a valid scientific study getting funded as there's nothing for a Company to gain from validating it.

Most people don't have the committment for it, its not hard just timeconsuming.

[musclearmor]

I've experimented with plenty of T boosters with marginal results over the years, however I have really been impressed with 2 newer ones that are truely working- and working very well!

Been running Halodrol for 3 weeks so far and just added Novadex XT (gaspari) on Sat (will come off Halodrol end of this week and carry Novedex right through for next 4 weeks). First time I've ever added 3kg lean mass only weeks from competing before and in such a short time. Wife still impressed with libedo levels too!

[Flex]

just added Novadex XT (gaspari) on Sat (will come off Halodrol end of this week and carry Novedex right through for next 4 weeks). First time I've ever added 3kg lean mass only weeks from competing

So you're not too worried about testing positive for Boldenone in this competition?

[musclearmor]

The packaging does report a potential for a "False Positive" since testosterone can be elevated to drug-like levels. After reading your post I googled this interesting banter about the same issue :roll:

http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/vbp ... .php?t=462

For those still reading this looking for an effective Test Booster that really does what it says it does..look no further :clap: Gaspari Novedex XT and Halodrol without a doubt!

:pfft: Just make sure you still make your weight class, your'e gonna grow.... \:D/