MY Next Cycle

[Kiwijuice]

thinking of doing this for my next cycle

15 weeks test e 500mg wk

15 weeks eq 400mg wk

25mg dbol 4 weeks to kickstart

feedback ?

[genetic freek]

You will love this mate! :nod:

[Kiwijuice]

90 views and only 1 reply ? pathetic ! does no-one else on this site use ???

[startinfromscratch]

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[decade]

90 views and only 1 reply ? pathetic ! does no-one else on this site use ???

with your 15 posts it looks like you dont contribute much to this section aswell

[NZPT]

cycle looks solid. What are your stats and what have you cycled before?

[Pseudonym]

I can't give you any feedback on the cycle, but I think you should keep a log with pictures. :nod:

Here's a very newbie question for you all. EQ is designed to give very dry gains, right? And Dbol is very wet? So is there much point in taking them together?

[startinfromscratch]

I can't give you any feedback on the cycle, but I think you should keep a log with pictures. :nod:

Here's a very newbie question for you all. EQ is designed to give very dry gains, right? And Dbol is very wet? So is there much point in taking them together?

yep, dbol is bloat inducing (so i hear), and eq improves vascularity, and doesnt aromatize as much as test?,

but frontloading a cycle with dbol for 4 weeks is a good way to utilise the test thats building up, while you wait for your blood levels to reach optimum levels. its my understanding that eq isnt 'dry', it just doesnt aromatize as much, so causes less wqater retention compared to test or deca. but test+eq, you would be carrying water....

my 2c

[musclenz]

Well decided I was not going to post on every thread on this forum, but here I go rabbiting on again as the original poster seems a little disgrumpled about the lack of interest in his cycle. Apologies in advance to those that frequent here.

Actually Boldenone & Dianabol are very close in chemical structure but they work quite different in the body. Normally Eq is used to increase RBC (Red Blood Count), improve strength, increase vascularity & if you are lucky, it may increase your appetite. The RBC increase can help transport more O2 in the blood & help endurance. It does not readily convert to estrogen & thus can be used on a long term basis to keep & promote lean, hard gains. Dbol has been a traditional bulking oral steroid for many years. It does however readily convert to estrogen which results in bloating & water retention & oily skin & acne. Its a very powerful fast acting strength steroid but being an oral can be very liver toxic in long term use esp at high doses. So frequently it is used to jump start a cycle or to restart a cycle that has plateaued. It can, however, be run at a low dose (15-20mg ed) for up to 10-12 weeks without the same sides of running higher doses.

Test, Eq & Dbol will work together in good synergy as the Test & Eq take some time to become fully active in the blood system & the characteristics of Boldenone take a while to materialize. I quite like to throw the Dbol back into the last 3-4 weeks for an added boost to the cycle & even taper out on the Dbol after the last of the oil injections. This makes quite a smooth transition into a PCT 2 weeks later.

[Kiwijuice]

90 views and only 1 reply ? pathetic ! does no-one else on this site use ???

with your 15 posts it looks like you dont contribute much to this section aswell

real helpful :roll:

cycle looks solid. What are your stats and what have you cycled before?

thankyou yes this will not be my first cycle.

I can't give you any feedback on the cycle, but I think you should keep a log with pictures. :nod:

Here's a very newbie question for you all. EQ is designed to give very dry gains, right? And Dbol is very wet? So is there much point in taking them together?

hmmmm might keep a log ill think about it

Well decided I was not going to post on every thread on this forum, but here I go rabbiting on again as the original poster seems a little disgrumpled about the lack of interest in his cycle. Apologies in advance to those that frequent here.

Actually Boldenone & Dianabol are very close in chemical structure but they work quite different in the body. Normally Eq is used to increase RBC (Red Blood Count), improve strength, increase vascularity & if you are lucky, it may increase your appetite. The RBC increase can help transport more O2 in the blood & help endurance. It does not readily convert to estrogen & thus can be used on a long term basis to keep & promote lean, hard gains. Dbol has been a traditional bulking oral steroid for many years. It does however readily convert to estrogen which results in bloating & water retention & oily skin & acne. Its a very powerful fast acting strength steroid but being an oral can be very liver toxic in long term use esp at high doses. So frequently it is used to jump start a cycle or to restart a cycle that has plateaued. It can, however, be run at a low dose (15-20mg ed) for up to 10-12 weeks without the same sides of running higher doses.

Test, Eq & Dbol will work together in good synergy as the Test & Eq take some time to become fully active in the blood system & the characteristics of Boldenone take a while to materialize. I quite like to throw the Dbol back into the last 3-4 weeks for an added boost to the cycle & even taper out on the Dbol after the last of the oil injections. This makes quite a smooth transition into a PCT 2 weeks later.

thanks for that post exactly the type of info i was after :nod:

[HumanPerformance]

Yes you should get some exellent gains from this cycle. As Muscle alluded to ,the EQ should definately give you an increase in appetite. Alot of people add it to thier stacks solely for this reason, especially when using compounds that known to decrease appetite (anapalon, 1-Test etc).

The only consideration I would have is that you may have to add in an aniti estrogen or aromatase inhibitor. Especially in the weeks where you add in the Dbol as this will take your total to over 1000mg of predominately androgenic compounds. As its true the EQ dosent aromatize, the test and Dbol could send your estrogen levels through the roof. Particularly because this is quite a long cycle. You state that this is not your first cycle, so only you yourself will know if this has the potential to become a problem for you.If you have never had any estrogen related side effects before then you may well get away with it. Especially if you are a younger lifter i.e under 30 then the amount of aromatization that occurs is normally less than an older trainer. And if your bodyfat levels are on the low side then you are alot less likely to suffer as well ( as test aromatizes primarily in adipose tissue).

As allways though only add in an anti estrogen or AI if you start to suffer side effects that are unacceptable to you, as these drugs will definately lower the effectiveness of the other compounds.

[musclenz]

Yes you should get some exellent gains from this cycle. As Muscle alluded to ,the EQ should definately give you an increase in appetite. Alot of people add it to thier stacks solely for this reason, especially when using compounds that known to decrease appetite (anapalon, 1-Test etc).

The only consideration I would have is that you may have to add in an aniti estrogen or aromatase inhibitor. Especially in the weeks where you add in the Dbol as this will take your total to over 1000mg of predominately androgenic compounds. As its true the EQ dosent aromatize, the test and Dbol could send your estrogen levels through the roof. Particularly because this is quite a long cycle. You state that this is not your first cycle, so only you yourself will know if this has the potential to become a problem for you.If you have never had any estrogen related side effects before then you may well get away with it. Especially if you are a younger lifter i.e under 30 then the amount of aromatization that occurs is normally less than an older trainer. And if your bodyfat levels are on the low side then you are alot less likely to suffer as well ( as test aromatizes primarily in adipose tissue).

As allways though only add in an anti estrogen or AI if you start to suffer side effects that are unacceptable to you, as these drugs will definately lower the effectiveness of the other compounds.

You know your stuff HP. Nice post.

[steak]

What would be a preferred AI using this stack/dose?

[HumanPerformance]

What would be a preferred AI using this stack/dose?

Arimidex would probably be best if your going for an AI or Aromasin for an estrogen blocker (although you could consider nolvedex as well but its not as good). Although aromasin is slightly stronger it that it a true suicide inhibitor, the use of arimidex would prove more usefull for this stack in it stops aromatization in the first place. Arimidex at .5mg a day would be quite sufficient and you may get away with even less, .25 or 1/4 of a tablet daily for the duration of the cycle. If using Aromasin then 12.5mg (half a tablet) would suffice also, although likewise you get away with alot less than that.

Thanks Musclenz

[Kiwijuice]

Yes you should get some exellent gains from this cycle. As Muscle alluded to ,the EQ should definately give you an increase in appetite. Alot of people add it to thier stacks solely for this reason, especially when using compounds that known to decrease appetite (anapalon, 1-Test etc).

The only consideration I would have is that you may have to add in an aniti estrogen or aromatase inhibitor. Especially in the weeks where you add in the Dbol as this will take your total to over 1000mg of predominately androgenic compounds. As its true the EQ dosent aromatize, the test and Dbol could send your estrogen levels through the roof. Particularly because this is quite a long cycle. You state that this is not your first cycle, so only you yourself will know if this has the potential to become a problem for you.If you have never had any estrogen related side effects before then you may well get away with it. Especially if you are a younger lifter i.e under 30 then the amount of aromatization that occurs is normally less than an older trainer. And if your bodyfat levels are on the low side then you are alot less likely to suffer as well ( as test aromatizes primarily in adipose tissue).

As allways though only add in an anti estrogen or AI if you start to suffer side effects that are unacceptable to you, as these drugs will definately lower the effectiveness of the other compounds.

thanks and yes will have an AI on hand but will not use it unless i need to as past experience has told me it hinders gains.

[musclenz]

What would be a preferred AI using this stack/dose?

Arimidex would probably be best if your going for an AI or Aromasin for an estrogen blocker (although you could consider nolvedex as well but its not as good). Although aromasin is slightly stronger it that it a true suicide inhibitor, the use of arimidex would prove more usefull for this stack in it stops aromatization in the first place. Arimidex at .5mg a day would be quite sufficient and you may get away with even less, .25 or 1/4 of a tablet daily for the duration of the cycle. If using Aromasin then 12.5mg (half a tablet) would suffice also, although likewise you get away with alot less than that.

Thanks Musclenz

Agree with HP on his AI recommendations & doses. Because Arimidex is very expensive here you may need to consider even using Femara. These can be quite cost effective @ half 2.5mg tab EOD. However, its not an AI that you really want to run through a whole cycle but it is very effective & fast acting used when you get a bit of estro related issues going on used short term over a 7-10 days.