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[Roidzilla]

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[musclenz]

14 weeks

prop 100mg eod

trenA 50-75mg eod

no orals.

have adex/nolva on hand, would running .5mg eod of the adex on cycle be enough of an estro killer to minimise sides? on suc low levels of andros there shouldnt be any need for additional drugs?

Should be sweet. Fairly long run on Tren though. May need Cabergoline on hand for progesterone/ prolactin issues if arise in addition to dex.

[Roidzilla]

14 weeks

prop 100mg eod

trenA 50-75mg eod

no orals.

have adex/nolva on hand, would running .5mg eod of the adex on cycle be enough of an estro killer to minimise sides? on suc low levels of andros there shouldnt be any need for additional drugs?

Should be sweet. Fairly long run on Tren though. May need Cabergoline on hand for progesterone/ prolactin issues if arise in addition to dex.

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[Pete_S]

Good little cycle bro - you must love pinning though. 6 sites IMO - 2 x Glutes, 2 x Quads, 2 x Delts works well on short esters. As MNZ says bit long for tren cycle i try to tap out at 10 weeks on Tren-E but with the Ace you could settle it up at even 8. Tren is 5x more potent then Test so a nice syngestic cyle - can't beat a Tren/Test cycle although i go for Enanthate for both usually unless can get some Tren-Hex. Interesting to hear how it goes....keep us all posted

[Roidzilla]

Good little cycle bro - you must love pinning though. 6 sites IMO - 2 x Glutes, 2 x Quads, 2 x Delts works well on short esters. As MNZ says bit long for tren cycle i try to tap out at 10 weeks on Tren-E but with the Ace you could settle it up at even 8. Tren is 5x more potent then Test so a nice syngestic cyle - can't beat a Tren/Test cycle although i go for Enanthate for both usually unless can get some Tren-Hex. Interesting to hear how it goes....keep us all posted

will do mate! as for pinning, will be 'practising' mostly on quads first methinks, will do prop only for the first 2 weeks, then introduce the tren.

cheers for the advice ppl!

R

[Pete_S]

Yip quads are the best - only site where you have control of the needle with both hands - less needle movement = less muscle tramua post injection pain. Make sure you aspirate though as there are some good veins down there you don't want to inject into

[musclenz]

Yip quads are the best - only site where you have control of the needle with both hands - less needle movement = less muscle tramua post injection pain. Make sure you aspirate though as there are some good veins down there you don't want to inject into

Yeah as Pete says you have to be a lot more careful injecting Tren. I would mix the Prop & Tren in the same syringe & shake off any residue on the pin after you have bled out the air. You dont want Tren getting anywhere near a bood vessel or you will be coughing like a cat with a furball for 10 mins or more.

[samoan_muscle]

You dont want Tren getting anywhere near a bood vessel or you will be coughing like a cat with a furball for 10 mins or more.

Damn cough!!!

[startinfromscratch]

Yip quads are the best - only site where you have control of the needle with both hands - less needle movement = less muscle tramua post injection pain. Make sure you aspirate though as there are some good veins down there you don't want to inject into

Yeah as Pete says you have to be a lot more careful injecting Tren. I would mix the Prop & Tren in the same syringe & shake off any residue on the pin after you have bled out the air. You dont want Tren getting anywhere near a bood vessel or you will be coughing like a cat with a furball for 10 mins or more.

so thats y ppl get tren cough! mnz, when do you get your endo practising cert?? :grin:

as for the pins, wouldnt swapping to a fresh pin after drawing both solve the issue?

[musclenz]

Yip quads are the best - only site where you have control of the needle with both hands - less needle movement = less muscle tramua post injection pain. Make sure you aspirate though as there are some good veins down there you don't want to inject into

Yeah as Pete says you have to be a lot more careful injecting Tren. I would mix the Prop & Tren in the same syringe & shake off any residue on the pin after you have bled out the air. You dont want Tren getting anywhere near a bood vessel or you will be coughing like a cat with a furball for 10 mins or more.

so thats y ppl get tren cough! mnz, when do you get your endo practising cert?? :grin:

as for the pins, wouldnt swapping to a fresh pin after drawing both solve the issue?

Yeah Bro you will be using a new pin but you still got to bleed the air out of that. You just dont want any tren residue thats on the outside of the pin before injection. It might sound a bit pedantic but its just one thing to help eliminate tren injection cough. There has been a lot of speculation about why Tren can trigger a coughing episode. There can be really severe as most tren users will testify that it occurs on occasion. Often you can taste the metalic flavour of the Tren before the coug hits.

It is thought that the coughing fits are due to rush of oil into the bloodstream which get lodged in the fine vessels of the lungs (pulmonary oil microembolism). This is not proven but seems somewhat dependant on the quality of the oil, BA used, the strength of the solution, etc . Good idea to make sure you are injecting deep into the muscle tissue. I normally use a 1" 23g pin but I do push it all the way so the inj are into deep tissue. I have inj tren using a slin pin but I think there is potentially more problems associated with that than going in deep.