HOW MUCH PROTEIN DO YOU NEED???? (POLL)

[PTinCHCH]

for a heavy training body builder it is around 1.7-2g per kilo of body weight. so 200grams is plenty. and the protien should be taken in around 30g loads. otherwise your bodys just passing it and your essentially making "expensive urine". which, by the sounds of it, allot of you are.

your body can only take on X amount of protien at any one time regardless.

[Specter]

for a heavy training body builder it is around 1.7-2g per kilo of body weight. so 200grams is plenty. and the protien should be taken in around 30g loads. otherwise your bodys just passing it and your essentially making "expensive urine". which, by the sounds of it, allot of you are.

your body can only take on X amount of protien at any one time regardless.

:roll: let me know how that works out for you...be very interested in your protein intake vs ur goal?

[Mr_Krabs]

I'm suprised that more people have not commented on the vid of Kai.

There's the next mr olympia without a doubt. The guy's a freak. No one is going to get close to him this year.

Haha yeah he's such a GC too. Very eccentric, very funny.

"Garbage! Lies!"

"Thank God for Carnivor Muscle Mass"

"We tryna bring Gorilla muscle to the Olympia"

Kai is the man.

Man that guy is straight up gorilla, soooo damn swole it aint funny! :shock:

[thatwaslight]

im sure if your on 5 grams a week of aas 500 - 1000gms of protein would be sufficent

[Luigi]

for a heavy training body builder it is around 1.7-2g per kilo of body weight. so 200grams is plenty. and the protien should be taken in around 30g loads. otherwise your bodys just passing it and your essentially making "expensive urine". which, by the sounds of it, allot of you are.

your body can only take on X amount of protien at any one time regardless.

dont believe everything you read :roll:

[PTinCHCH]

for a heavy training body builder it is around 1.7-2g per kilo of body weight. so 200grams is plenty. and the protien should be taken in around 30g loads. otherwise your bodys just passing it and your essentially making "expensive urine". which, by the sounds of it, allot of you are.

your body can only take on X amount of protien at any one time regardless.

dont believe everything you read :roll:

lol yea shame on my ass. i was reading it as energy supplys etc.

meaning carbs are the one to hit up.

wouldnt have a clue on massive intakes of high profile body builders.

cant understand where itd all go tho?!?!

how much can you ACTUALLY take on at any one session?? dont know if anything over X amount of grams would be going anywhere but urine tho. and for a 100kilo builder???

i would imagine double my first thaught, 400grams max. 100kilo aint that heavy.

im 97 kilo, have been since i was 16..even hit the 105 mark when i was full on training...i would have to be taking on no carbs and just protien for it to be going anywhere usefull i would imagine...

[Roidzilla]

i think alot of peeps would be happy to take in more protein than they need - id rather take in extra and know im at maximum than to go by a set number and risk losing potential gains if my body can in fact utilise more than the online calc says....

[Specter]

i think alot of peeps would be happy to take in more protein than they need - id rather take in extra and know im at maximum than to go by a set number and risk losing potential gains if my body can in fact utilise more than the online calc says....

:clap: :clap: :clap: u said it!

[PTinCHCH]

i gotta remember, this is a body building forum. not a health forum lol

[shruglife]

I just found a published article stating there is no metabolic advantage consuming more than 3g protein/kg BW. So for a 100kg bodybuilder I would say 250-300g would be the sweet spot, which matches the poll interestingly... If 40xBW gives the number of cals you need to consume while bulking and you want to limit your fats to 20% then for a 100kg bber:

4000x0.2=800cals from fat => 800/9≈90f

300x4=1200cals from protein => 300p

4000-1200-800=2000cals from carb =>2000/4=500c

Making the golden ratio 300p/500c/90f => 3gp/5gc/~1gf per kg BW 8)

[Optimass]

Link to article ??

[keats]

Found this interesting:

At Kent University researchers tested 3 different groups of people:

1.

On a low protein diet which was 0.9 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight.

2.

Another group eating 1.4 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight.

3.

A group eating 2.4 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight.

Both sedentary and strength training groups were involved. The results showed that 1.4 grams resulted in protein synthesis while there were no changes in the low protein group and, finally, the group that ingested 2.4 grams of protein did not see any more increased protein synthesis than the 1.4 grams of protein group.

Another study conducted at the Letterman Army Institute of Research in San Francisco showed that subjects on a higher protein intake (2.8 g/kg/day), coupled with intense strength training, gained a whopping 3.28 kg (7.2 lbs) of lean mass. The study was done over a 40-day period and the subjects were trained to near exhaustion. Another study of weightlifters over a 3 month period, with the protein increased from 2.2g/kg/day to 3.5 g/kg/ day, resulted in a 6% increase in muscle mass and a 5% increase in strength

[shruglife]

Link to article ??

http://www.punchsupplements.co.nz/media ... er-pro.pdf Read column 2 after the table.

Found this interesting:

At Kent University researchers tested 3 different groups of people:

1.

On a low protein diet which was 0.9 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight.

2.

Another group eating 1.4 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight.

3.

A group eating 2.4 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight.

Both sedentary and strength training groups were involved. The results showed that 1.4 grams resulted in protein synthesis while there were no changes in the low protein group and, finally, the group that ingested 2.4 grams of protein did not see any more increased protein synthesis than the 1.4 grams of protein group.

I read a simlar study where the high protein group's protein synthesis was greater than the medium intake group's but not proportionately which is what prompted me to try find out where the effectiveness of protein consumption dropped off. The fact that this study claims there was zero difference between the two groups is incredibly frustrating for me because there never seems to be any consistency with these surveys.

Another study conducted at the Letterman Army Institute of Research in San Francisco showed that subjects on a higher protein intake (2.8 g/kg/day), coupled with intense strength training, gained a whopping 3.28 kg (7.2 lbs) of lean mass. The study was done over a 40-day period and the subjects were trained to near exhaustion. Another study of weightlifters over a 3 month period, with the protein increased from 2.2g/kg/day to 3.5 g/kg/ day, resulted in a 6% increase in muscle mass and a 5% increase in strength

The first study doesn't compare more than one group making it arbitrary. In the second study the is a large gap between the two group's intakes making it hard to pinpoint where no further protein synthesis occurred or whether greater synthesis still would occur with an even higher intake than 3.5g/kg BW.

I don't know why one thorough, completely conclusive study cannot be done rather than a multitude of seemingly poor and inconsistent ones :roll:.