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There is a lot of talk around bridging between cycles and not taking time off. Would like to know what you guys think of bridging vs clean time.

It has always been a given that steroids needs to be cycled, most think that this has more to do with health issues than anything else. The main idea behind cycling is for the body to put on the muscle mass and second is for the body to maintain it.

“So lets track the typical path a steroid user would walk. Most guys start training clean and get good gains. This is normal because the body is being stimulated and it will grow to its balance point quite fast. Then the progress stops and the guy get frustrated. Along comes the juice. A good Anabol and Depotrone combination for 12-weeks and most guys have put on 10-12 Kgs. Shoulders have popped out and the physiques is starting to look good. Now there comes a cutting cycle, some Winstrol and Equipoise and 18 weeks later 75 kgs has gone to 85 kgs. Next they guy get more adventurous because he got really good results, so he’s back on Sustanon and something else this time. And so it keeps going.

Before you know it, you have been on juice non-stop for two years and your weight is around 88 Kgs. Suddenly you realize that your taking good juice but you are not getting any bigger. More frustration. What actually happened is that you ignored the natural cycles need for your body to adjust, so instead of adjusting and getting the system to maintain the weight you have gained, you forced it past that point. All the juice is doing is maintaining the extra weight for you, there is no space left for growth.”

The only approach I can judge is the following:

Do a 10-30 week cycle -> Add as much lean muscle as you can (muscle memory) -> train clean till you are as close as possible to the size you were on last cycle -> next cycle -> enc.

By bridging you do not restore your natural test production. Then the next step would be to start adding Insulin and GH to aid in adding muscle; because the test is not producing any more. I have always cycled - but I know there are some big guys bridging for 3-5years?

• Do you still make gains after a year and do you add GH+Slin?

Let me know……..

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Interesting read. Using drugs to get from 75 to 85 is just sad imo.

Wtf? I agree.

Just a case study man :doh: , the guy was probally a 3'1'' migit. The point is you do not have the same gains per cycle when bridging compared to clean periods.

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Interesting read. Using drugs to get from 75 to 85 is just sad imo.

Wtf? I agree.

Just a case study man :doh: , the guy was probally a 3'1'' migit. The point is you do not have the same gains per cycle when bridging compared to clean periods.

Auck builder and luigi can both identify with that statement...

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Wtf? I agree.

Just a case study man :doh: , the guy was probally a 3'1'' migit. The point is you do not have the same gains per cycle when bridging compared to clean periods.

Auck builder and luigi can both identify with that statement...

:lol::lol::lol:

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Wtf? I agree.

Just a case study man :doh: , the guy was probally a 3'1'' migit. The point is you do not have the same gains per cycle when bridging compared to clean periods.

Auck builder and luigi can both identify with that statement...

im 5 foot 10 fool.

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Bain, you make some good points about the reduced androgenic & anabolic effects after long term use. I think the term "bridging" is normally refered to as low dose almost HRT level of exogenous test between cycles, whereas I prefer the term "Cruise & Blast". This implies using a base level of androgens interspersed with higher dosed & various compounds in the blast period. I expect this is what most top level Pros do. Either way there can be plateaus to deal with & then you need to consider peptides & the newer designer drugs to keep the body guessing. You can still have periods of loss within the cruise & blast "cycle" due to overtraining, diet, stress, lack of sleep & just sheer genetic potential being maxed out. However, it is much easier to hold gains while continuously "on"

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Bain, you make some good points about the reduced androgenic & anabolic effects after long term use. I think the term "bridging" is normally refered to as low dose almost HRT level of exogenous test between cycles, whereas I prefer the term "Cruise & Blast". This implies using a base level of androgens interspersed with higher dosed & various compounds in the blast period. I expect this is what most top level Pros do. Either way there can be plateaus to deal with & then you need to consider peptides & the newer designer drugs to keep the body guessing. You can still have periods of loss within the cruise & blast "cycle" due to overtraining, diet, stress, lack of sleep & just sheer genetic potential being maxed out. However, it is much easier to hold gains while continuously "on"

Im sure your right there is no way the pros will be completely clean at anytime. The thing is your natural test production will in no way recover while on even a very low amount of gear "while cruising", and the longer you use the longer it takes your body to recover its natural process.

I would think the best way to go then is cycle till you get to your genetic max and if you want to still improve be prepared to stay on the gear :twisted:

And as for the rest of you guys dont pick on luigi and abb, life must be tough from a 3'1" perspective. :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

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