what do u class as a natural bb? NEW POLL!!

[1day]

well im interested to see what every 1s veiws are on natural bodybuilding

so we all know that roids and perscription dueretics are classed as a no no in the sport (NZFBB competition) etc

but as far as dueretics are concerned -do u class using them (perscription 1s) as making sum1 a 'non-natural bobybuilder' or do u see it as it as getting that cheating edge as far as a natural comp is concerned as it only benifits a competitor for the big day?

[samoan_muscle]

Man 1 day...you need to phrase your polls better - theyre confusing! lol.

I think there are different classes of "natural". Almost like vegetarians, vegans and all out raw food freaks. Some may not even touch any form of supplementation and others are borderline...i.e. using banned substances...

I do believe that prescription diurectics is a form of enhancement, it definately gives an individual the edge over someone using natural diurectics and shouldnt be used by a natural athlete if banned.

[boostinggtir]

Cool, so that makes 1day a user.

[1day]

I do believe that prescription diurectics is a form of enhancement, it definately gives an individual the edge over someone using natural diurectics and shouldnt be used by a natural athlete if banned.

so i take it u voted for the last option on poll as i did? as it gives the edge ova others for the competition but does not enhance there performace or gains in any way for future progress? therefore the individual would still be classed as natural bodybuilder.

[samoan_muscle]

Cool, so that makes 1day a user.

I reckon it classes him as enhanced.

[1day]

Cool, so that makes 1day a user.

i dont agree, as i said, it gives the edge ova others for a competition but does not enhance there performace or gains in any way for future progress. my way at looking at it :roll:

[samoan_muscle]

It enhances your appearance for sure mate...I think if your natural youre natural and that means no drugs at all. Not just AAS.

e.g. How about clenbuterol, ephedrine or T3?

Would using these types of fat-burners still classify you as natural?

Theyre not performance enhancing (well maybe not ephedrine) and certainly dont give any muscular gains whatsoever...but theyll certainly rip you up a hell of alot easier and quicker than the poor fella next to you that was using the latest state of the art fat burner from the supplement shop...

[nzmusclemonster]

Cool, so that makes 1day a user.

i dont agree, as i said, it gives the edge ova others for a competition but does not enhance there performace or gains in any way for future progress. my way at looking at it :roll:

If it is listed as a banned substance it doesn't really matter what you think.... it is banned. Therefore = not natural.

[boostinggtir]

Man up an change to enhanced boi. :nod:

Also, is a person using celltech considered enhanced?

[1day]

It enhances your appearance for sure mate...I think if your natural youre natural and that means no drugs at all. Not just AAS.

e.g. How about clenbuterol, ephedrine or T3?

Would using these types of fat-burners still classify you as natural?

Theyre not performance enhancing (well maybe not ephedrine) and certainly dont give any muscular gains whatsoever...but theyll certainly rip you up a hell of alot easier and quicker than the poor fella next to you that was using the latest state of the art fat burner from the supplement shop...

i see where ur coming from, but i think that it still only makes u a 'non-natural competitor' not non natural bodybuilder?

[samoan_muscle]

i see where ur coming from, but i think that it still only makes u a 'non-natural competitor' not non natural bodybuilder?

LOL - no worries buddy. Keep coming up with excuses for youself...it'll be alright. We're not disappointed in ya :wink:

[boostinggtir]

It's not a complex issue 1day. Your enhanced. It's that simple. :nod:

[1day]

lol, if i had the support from the mrs i prob would get into the whole 'enhanced' bbing, but dnt 'yet' and i dnt really want to throw anymore money into the sport and away from my fam at the mo.

[boostinggtir]

lol, if i had the support from the mrs i prob would get into the whole 'enhanced' bbing, but dnt 'yet' and i dnt really want to throw anymore money into the sport and away from my fam at the mo.

As noble as that is, your all ready enhanced because of a product you took last Saturday. Change your status boi. :clap:

[1day]

lol, if i do it again il change my status for the day, ok! :roll:

[nzmusclemonster]

i see where ur coming from, but i think that it still only makes u a 'non-natural competitor' not non natural bodybuilder?

You sound like one of those girls that considers taking it up the ass not losing their virginity.

[samoan_muscle]

i see where ur coming from, but i think that it still only makes u a 'non-natural competitor' not non natural bodybuilder?

You sound like one of those girls that considers taking it up the ass not losing their virginity.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! 1-day is still yet to lose his flower...

[1day]

You sound like one of those girls that considers taking it up the ass not losing their virginity.

LMAO!!!!!

[Johnboy007]

I take protein powders and fat burners like most people, its a hard line to draw but anything on the banned substance list (http://www.wnbf.net/downloads/2009-WNBF ... s-List.pdf) is a good place to start.

Some are just obvious

Don't know what you took but if it is classed as a diuretic and not injected into you ass on a daily basis or given to you by some dodge "mens clinic", you are probably fine.

[biggurl27]

I chose NO, even though i know you can get disqualfied with the NZFBB, most people have tried a script diuretic in their time and I don't think it makes you automatically a non-natural bodybuilder. People can argue about this all day until they are blue in the face but don't you think there is a big difference between someone that has taken a couple of diuretics compared to someone that has been on a few cycles of gear? :-s HALLO big difference.

PS I put on 10kgs in 24 hours and ended up in hosptial with every test under the sun due to diuretics /eating some salty shit, won't be doing that shit EVER AGAIN!

[1day]

I put on 10kgs in 24 hours and ended up in hosptial with every test under the sun due to diuretics /eating some salty shit, won't be doing that shit EVER AGAIN!

:shock: can u go into details, ie. what u used and what upset it?

[Specter]

I put on 10kgs in 24 hours and ended up in hosptial with every test under the sun due to diuretics /eating some salty shit, won't be doing that shit EVER AGAIN!

:shock: can u go into details, ie. what u used and what upset it?

:shock:

[samoan_muscle]

PS I put on 10kgs in 24 hours and ended up in hosptial with every test under the sun due to diuretics /eating some salty shit, won't be doing that shit EVER AGAIN!

Silly silly biggurl.

[Bazza]

When in doubt..consult Wikipedia...

Natural bodybuilding is the practice or participation in the form of body modification, known as bodybuilding; and to do this without the use of banned substances. Most commonly refering to the use of illegal performance-enhancing drugs such as anabolic steroids and human growth hormone. In the sport of natural bodybuilding, the classification of natural is based on the organization you are competing in.

I like the quote about the 'classification' of natural being dependent on the comp you are in..... :^o

[biggurl27]

Yeah I was silly SM. Didn't load potasium, took far too many diuretics (naughty ones), Water loaded, depleted and removed salt. Directly after comp had too much shit food and my body went spastic, the doctors were stumped, tested OK for everything, didn't harm my body but EXTREME water retention was evident to the point of pitting if you pressed finger on leg, finger mark would remain. Pissed it all out within a week but it was scary shit.