Targeting middle of chest

[shruglife]

I have tried so many different ways of training chest and your right inclines feel like your really working the pecs because of the big stretch you can get but just because you feel something duznt mean it is best for you but i am just saying that a muscle only responds to a load so the more weight the better but like i said before if you wanna do those so called isolation exercises go for it but maybe there is a different way to do things that most people dont wanna try because so and so said this

Mrbig, I know exactly where you're coming from, having done sports science and several personal training courses I was taught more or less the same. But after years of weight training I learnt otherwise and that its not as black and white as that.

The human body is quite complex and capable of adapting to specific stimulus.

We might be able to become good power lifters concentrating on just the big lifts and miximum load, but unfortunately just doing Deadlifts, squats and flat bench press is not gonna turn us into great bodybuilders with overall apearance of muscular balance.

I understand what your saying but you know bodybuilders are an elite breed and do alot more than they necessary need to i dont mean just bench,squat deadlift all im trying to say is whatever exercises you choose to do remember that the heavy more compund lifts will give greater results like a barbell row over a cable row which is virtually the same exercise but which one will you use more weight which requires you to recruit more motor units and so on im speaking from personal experience of doing all the isolation exercises and trying to focus on a certain part of the muscle which if that worked why do compound lifts in the first place remember dorian yates

:-s

[Optimass]

cable row is a compound movement ... :-s

http://www.divefitness.com/html/article ... matrix.pdf

[Mrbig]

I know that it was just an example probably not the best haha more like a tricep pushdown vs a tricep dip both work the triceps but the dip uses more load etc etc but like i said before if you wanna do certain exercises go for it but mayb step out of the norm for a bit and try different things you may be surprised at the results

[Bobsta]

I don't think there was ever any doubt that compound movements are superior to isolation movements and i was not recomending to do isolations instead of compounds!! Thats basic common knowledge.

The reason I jumped on was when it was mentioned you can not isolate upper chest from lower which i strongly disagree and i gave an example to try if in doubt.

If you're lacking in the upper chest you need to do inclines, ofcorse you'd normaly do heavy incline presses 1st before moving to an isolation movement like incline flyes.