How much gear do pros use??

[musclenz]

I go & dig up the garden now Hone :grin: \:D/

[Yah-Weh]

Guys,

Posting this because I had a mate that came extremely close to death by taking large amounts of Deca. Some fool gave him a calculation to work out how much to take per week. This guy was naturally big, about 98kg before stepping foot in a gym. He started on 30mg A DAY!!. Was growing huge so I approached him as even for a user it was freakish. Told him to stop, drink heaps of fluid (useless as deca is oil based but worth a try). He ended up in hospital with the doctors saying that he could be gone in a few weeks. He made it and never got back into the gym.

If you are going to use, do your research. Then get your facts from different sources to clarify the amount you should be taking for your body weight. Of course it depends on the quality of the product as well. You can do some real permanent damage if you are not careful.

The other misconception is that you use a roid and instantly your biceps just grow a few inches. I know most of the people that have posted on this thread know enough but this is for the inexperienced who happen to read some of these threads... Especially the cycles and dosages, they are plain scary and could kill at those doses.

Basically if you take deca, you can do a full body workout on Monday. Back it up on Tuesday, have Wed off then back into it Thurs and Fri... Most people will recover from a full body smashing (compound exercises as we are using deca to build bulk) within a 24 hour period. Wed off to save on ligament damage (some would not do this).

So basically you can do a months workout in a week. However it is very mentally challenging to work at 100%, throwing up and fainting quantifies as 100%. We are talking sitting in the car park for 30 minutes after a workout waiting for the pump to subside because you cannot grip the steering wheel sort of stuff (So I hear!!).

Then you have to eat enough for your body to repair too.

It is not a walk in the park, if you are not prepared to absolutely bust everything you have then stick to Creatine (buy a kg of decent stuff and stay on loading phase for four weeks, 20g a day (four teaspoons). If you are not getting a killer pump on this you either don't have technique or are not working hard enough... mind you it could be inferior creatine as well but doubtful..

Then there are the side effects.

Not condoning use at all, not the intention.

[Pumpupthejam]

More importantly, how much could you expect to spend a week/month on steroids?

Just wondering whether I should get a second job at Pak N SAve stocking shelves lol.

[Pumpupthejam]

Guys,

Posting this because I had a mate that came extremely close to death by taking large amounts of Deca. Some fool gave him a calculation to work out how much to take per week. This guy was naturally big, about 98kg before stepping foot in a gym. He started on 30mg A DAY!!. Was growing huge so I approached him as even for a user it was freakish. Told him to stop, drink heaps of fluid (useless as deca is oil based but worth a try). He ended up in hospital with the doctors saying that he could be gone in a few weeks. He made it and never got back into the gym.

If you are going to use, do your research. Then get your facts from different sources to clarify the amount you should be taking for your body weight. Of course it depends on the quality of the product as well. You can do some real permanent damage if you are not careful.

The other misconception is that you use a roid and instantly your biceps just grow a few inches. I know most of the people that have posted on this thread know enough but this is for the inexperienced who happen to read some of these threads... Especially the cycles and dosages, they are plain scary and could kill at those doses.

Basically if you take deca, you can do a full body workout on Monday. Back it up on Tuesday, have Wed off then back into it Thurs and Fri... Most people will recover from a full body smashing (compound exercises as we are using deca to build bulk) within a 24 hour period. Wed off to save on ligament damage (some would not do this).

So basically you can do a months workout in a week. However it is very mentally challenging to work at 100%, throwing up and fainting quantifies as 100%. We are talking sitting in the car park for 30 minutes after a workout waiting for the pump to subside because you cannot grip the steering wheel sort of stuff (So I hear!!).

Then you have to eat enough for your body to repair too.

It is not a walk in the park, if you are not prepared to absolutely bust everything you have then stick to Creatine (buy a kg of decent stuff and stay on loading phase for four weeks, 20g a day (four teaspoons). If you are not getting a killer pump on this you either don't have technique or are not working hard enough... mind you it could be inferior creatine as well but doubtful..

Then there are the side effects.

Not condoning use at all, not the intention.

Sorry man my previous comment didnt mean more importantly than what you said.

You're the first person whos made a comment I've read that talks sense about the dangers of taking steroids, and I'm talking about the amount to take, as with any drug.

haha and I know what you mean about waiting for the pump to subside while in the car. I couldnt even wash my armpits in the shower my arms were so pumped. (I train naturally yo.) Shame really, as they were the stinkiest part of my body after my workout. :pfft:

[Luigi]

Guys,

Posting this because I had a mate that came extremely close to death by taking large amounts of Deca. Some fool gave him a calculation to work out how much to take per week. This guy was naturally big, about 98kg before stepping foot in a gym. He started on 30mg A DAY!!

you sure he was on deca ? not dbol ? and if deca you sure that was the right dose ??

. Was growing huge so I approached him as even for a user it was freakish. Told him to stop, drink heaps of fluid (useless as deca is oil based but worth a try).this makes no sense :?

Basically if you take deca, you can do a full body workout on Monday. Back it up on Tuesday, have Wed off then back into it Thurs and Fri... Most people will recover from a full body smashing (compound exercises as we are using deca to build bulk) within a 24 hour period. Wed off to save on ligament damage (some would not do this).

no way

sorry man dont want to sound negative just not sure if you have your info correct

.

[holdenman]

Agreed, 30mg doesnt seem right, thats a pretty low dosage even if you were running it with test etc.. :?

[samoan_muscle]

Guys,

Posting this because I had a mate that came extremely close to death by taking large amounts of Deca. Some fool gave him a calculation to work out how much to take per week. This guy was naturally big, about 98kg before stepping foot in a gym. He started on 30mg A DAY!!. Was growing huge so I approached him as even for a user it was freakish. Told him to stop, drink heaps of fluid (useless as deca is oil based but worth a try). He ended up in hospital with the doctors saying that he could be gone in a few weeks. He made it and never got back into the gym.

If you are going to use, do your research. Then get your facts from different sources to clarify the amount you should be taking for your body weight. Of course it depends on the quality of the product as well. You can do some real permanent damage if you are not careful.

The other misconception is that you use a roid and instantly your biceps just grow a few inches. I know most of the people that have posted on this thread know enough but this is for the inexperienced who happen to read some of these threads... Especially the cycles and dosages, they are plain scary and could kill at those doses.

Basically if you take deca, you can do a full body workout on Monday. Back it up on Tuesday, have Wed off then back into it Thurs and Fri... Most people will recover from a full body smashing (compound exercises as we are using deca to build bulk) within a 24 hour period. Wed off to save on ligament damage (some would not do this).

So basically you can do a months workout in a week. However it is very mentally challenging to work at 100%, throwing up and fainting quantifies as 100%. We are talking sitting in the car park for 30 minutes after a workout waiting for the pump to subside because you cannot grip the steering wheel sort of stuff (So I hear!!).

Then you have to eat enough for your body to repair too.

It is not a walk in the park, if you are not prepared to absolutely bust everything you have then stick to Creatine (buy a kg of decent stuff and stay on loading phase for four weeks, 20g a day (four teaspoons). If you are not getting a killer pump on this you either don't have technique or are not working hard enough... mind you it could be inferior creatine as well but doubtful..

Then there are the side effects.

Not condoning use at all, not the intention.

Lol mate. The other guys on here have been too nice to you...

You've got no fucking idea what you're talking about...training and recovery let alone gear. Go spin your bullshit somewhere else...

Ta-ta

[samoan_muscle]

Sorry man my previous comment didnt mean more importantly than what you said.

You're the first person whos made a comment I've read that talks sense about the dangers of taking steroids, and I'm talking about the amount to take, as with any drug.

haha and I know what you mean about waiting for the pump to subside while in the car. I couldnt even wash my armpits in the shower my arms were so pumped. (I train naturally yo.) Shame really, as they were the stinkiest part of my body after my workout. :pfft:

I wouldnt be taking any advice from this guy pump. He hasnt stated what was medically "wrong" with his mate other than he was on the gear. For all we know he could have ended up in hospital for something completely non-steroid related.

[Pumpupthejam]

Sorry man my previous comment didnt mean more importantly than what you said.

You're the first person whos made a comment I've read that talks sense about the dangers of taking steroids, and I'm talking about the amount to take, as with any drug.

haha and I know what you mean about waiting for the pump to subside while in the car. I couldnt even wash my armpits in the shower my arms were so pumped. (I train naturally yo.) Shame really, as they were the stinkiest part of my body after my workout. :pfft:

I wouldnt be taking any advice from this guy pump. He hasnt stated what was medically "wrong" with his mate other than he was on the gear. For all we know he could have ended up in hospital for something completely non-steroid related.

Aye thats true.

How much do you guys who are on gear spend a month on it?

[two_phat]

The other misconception is that you use a roid and instantly your biceps just grow a few inches.

I don't think anybody thinks anything remotely like this.

[thatwaslight]

The other misconception is that you use a roid and instantly your biceps just grow a few inches.

I don't think anybody thinks anything remotely like this.

i think you will find most people do

[two_phat]

sorry - I meant to say that I don't think anybody who is considering using thinks like this...

and if they do, it serves them right.

[Yah-Weh]

He did end up in hospital, I visited him. He told me he was on deca, had a different supplier to me so yes could well have been dbol, and the dosage, sorry but was going on what he was telling me, it was over ten years ago so could be a bit fuzzy about the 30mg / day dose.

The idea of the post was to open the eyes of the new guys out there only to remind them to not go overboard without doing their research first as there are dangers.

It was not a training journal

it was not a medical dictionary

it was not a shopping list

[thatwaslight]

He did end up in hospital, I visited him. He told me he was on deca, had a different supplier to me so yes could well have been dbol, and the dosage, sorry but was going on what he was telling me, it was over ten years ago so could be a bit fuzzy about the 30mg / day dose.

The idea of the post was to open the eyes of the new guys out there only to remind them to not go overboard without doing their research first as there are dangers.

It was not a training journal

it was not a medical dictionary

it was not a shopping list

30mg a day is a sparrow's feed, unless it was bad gear at that dose being hospitalised sounds :^o

[samoan_muscle]

He did end up in hospital, I visited him. He told me he was on deca, had a different supplier to me so yes could well have been dbol, and the dosage, sorry but was going on what he was telling me, it was over ten years ago so could be a bit fuzzy about the 30mg / day dose.

The idea of the post was to open the eyes of the new guys out there only to remind them to not go overboard without doing their research first as there are dangers.

It was not a training journal

it was not a medical dictionary

it was not a shopping list

Ok hot shot. What did he end up in hospital for? A sore toe?

He ended up in hospital while he was on deca is fucking bullshit. If you want to make a statement suggesting his hospital visit was related you better be prepared to explain why and how otherwise no one here is going to believe you. It's like me saying my mate ended up in hospital while driving his car...and not saying how he ended up there but recommending that no-one drive cars anymore.

[trainharder]

He did end up in hospital, I visited him. He told me he was on deca, had a different supplier to me so yes could well have been dbol, and the dosage, sorry but was going on what he was telling me, it was over ten years ago so could be a bit fuzzy about the 30mg / day dose.

The idea of the post was to open the eyes of the new guys out there only to remind them to not go overboard without doing their research first as there are dangers.

It was not a training journal

it was not a medical dictionary

it was not a shopping list

30mg a day is a sparrow's feed, unless it was bad gear at that dose being hospitalised sounds :^o

if your going to start quoting doseages and warning people get your facts right.

30mgs a day would be 200mgs a week so 1 mill of deca a week.how the hell do you divide that up on a daily basis.

is not going to do stuff all for anyone and definitely wont put some one in hospital

if your anti roids good on you but at least get your facts right before warning people of the dangers. sounds like you know nothing about what your talking about.

[Kiwijuice]

He did end up in hospital, I visited him. He told me he was on deca, had a different supplier to me so yes could well have been dbol, and the dosage, sorry but was going on what he was telling me, it was over ten years ago so could be a bit fuzzy about the 30mg / day dose.

The idea of the post was to open the eyes of the new guys out there only to remind them to not go overboard without doing their research first as there are dangers.

It was not a training journal

it was not a medical dictionary

it was not a shopping list

You clearly have no idea what your talking about you are the reason why the public thinks steroids are evil and deadly go spin your shit somewhere else idiot.

[boostinggtir]

He did end up in hospital, I visited him. He told me he was on deca, had a different supplier to me so yes could well have been dbol, and the dosage, sorry but was going on what he was telling me, it was over ten years ago so could be a bit fuzzy about the 30mg / day dose.

The idea of the post was to open the eyes of the new guys out there only to remind them to not go overboard without doing their research first as there are dangers.

It was not a training journal

it was not a medical dictionary

it was not a shopping list

You clearly have no idea what your talking about you are the reason why the public thinks steroids are evil and deadly go spin your shit somewhere else idiot.

Real talk.